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Old 12-27-2009, 06:47 PM   #176
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to remove the stubs id recommend some BIG channel locks. If you cant yank them out with the channel locks, which you should be able to, get a female axle and pop in the lock pin thru the hole in the axle and stub and use a prybar... It shouldnt be too much trouble. For your diff, id just order new seals...
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Old 12-27-2009, 07:03 PM   #177
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do you know how to take them out? heard i have to take apart the side plates in order to. does anyone know the part #s
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:35 PM   #178
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never had to do rear end seals but im sure if you pull the axles and get in there its simple stuff... When are you putting your swap together??
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:20 AM   #179
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Just got home from Subaru. Bought the (2) front axle seals. One superceeds so it was a different part #. And bought one rear axle seal. Luckily they had them in stock and was able to walk away with them in hand. :0) As soon as i get these little quirks worked out im dropping off the parts at Synaptic3 in NH and they'll be taking it from there. thanks srREXed for all your help!
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:07 PM   #180
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you got it buddy. Hope you get to drive your setup before the snow is gone!
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Old 12-28-2009, 02:26 PM   #181
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ahh, i know i wont and to be honest i dont mind. this will be my first winter without my suby :-( and im only glad because all my new parts wont take the abuse of the stupid salt everywhere.
just got finished polishing my controls arms....hmm they looks so good now :0)
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Old 12-29-2009, 08:27 PM   #182
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Would 04 STi front hubs fit into 02 WRX front knuckles? Or would they need some machining to fit?
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:17 PM   #183
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They are not matched... Machining? Ehh, why not make it fit correctly. What are you trying to accomplish?
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:06 PM   #184
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Would 04 STi front hubs fit into 02 WRX front knuckles? Or would they need some machining to fit?
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They are not matched... Machining? Ehh, why not make it fit correctly. What are you trying to accomplish?
I'm not trying to accomplish anything. I'm selling a pair of brand new 04 STi front hubs, and this guy asked in my FS thread if they would fit 02 WRX front axles. I told him it wasn't so much the axles he had to worry about, but the STi hubs had to fit the WRX knuckles, and I didn't think they would fit without machining or something.

Then some other guy posts in my FS thread, that they would fit, and I don't think they do.

So this is why I'm asking the question. I'm pretty sure they won't fit, but I need verification from a veteran here.
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Old 12-31-2009, 03:47 AM   #185
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It doesnt say veteran next to my name but from experience, sti knuckles, spindles etc. are not interchangeable with the wrx/imprezas... I tried to put together an alternative to r180 swapping and come to find out dss axles would make it work but theyre a pretty penny. That said, i tried to fit the sti inner hardware with the wrx outer hardware and it wouldnt fit without machine work. That of which is a bit pricey if you dont have access to some professoinal grade tools... Labor rates of 80 plus an hour. And 1.5 hours of machine work for each side. To qc the answer, you should check the suspension topics and see if anyone has done it?
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Old 01-02-2010, 02:00 PM   #186
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with the stubs sticking out on my trans i cant figure out how to take them out. there isnt any good way to get into it. just a VERY tiny hole. ANY IDEAS?
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Old 01-02-2010, 09:05 PM   #187
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put a female axle on the stub. Put the little lock pin in the little hole. Then take a prybar and pry them out. Easier method for strong people... Large channel locks and a fat hammer... There isnt any other way to do it.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:09 AM   #188
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ok sounds good. i just wont be able to do it myself because my female axles (which im not using) are still in my car at the shop :0(
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:51 PM   #189
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ok sounds good. i just wont be able to do it myself because my female axles (which im not using) are still in my car at the shop :0(

Just post up and see if anyone on you local forum has an old/busted/whatever female axle you can borrow. If you were local to me, I'd let you borrow one of the 4 I have sitting around.

But maybe you answered this: why not keep the female axles? Swapping the seals isn't hard, but there's a good chance you'll mess something up and she'll leak like crazy.
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:38 PM   #190
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because my (female) axles are 2.5rs' and the axles im going to use (males) are STi. but thanks and the idea of posting in my region
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:35 PM   #191
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Old 01-11-2010, 10:25 AM   #192
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to remove the stubs id recommend some BIG channel locks. If you cant yank them out with the channel locks, which you should be able to, get a female axle and pop in the lock pin thru the hole in the axle and stub and use a prybar... It shouldnt be too much trouble. For your diff, id just order new seals...
after trying to yank out the stubs, when i pull, it seems to either hit something on the inside or is stuck. does that sounds right? i dont want to pull to hard and break something on the inside. I want to be as careful as possible BUT i need to get them out. ahhh i dont know what to do BUT i know i dont want to have to take the trans apart.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:40 PM   #193
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its the same as pulling male axles out of a female tranny. The clip on the end is whats hitting. You need to pull hard enough to compress the clip and the axle will pop out. Trust sometimes its tough but its the ONLY way to do it. Its the same in many other cars as well.
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Old 01-11-2010, 05:12 PM   #194
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ok thanks. just dropped everything but the transmission off at the builders today, they will finish it off. quick question: do the rear axles need circlips? i just noticed when dropping them off, they dont have any, just the fronts
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:04 PM   #195
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ok thanks. just dropped everything but the transmission off at the builders today, they will finish it off. quick question: do the rear axles need circlips? i just noticed when dropping them off, they dont have any, just the fronts
far as ive seen clips for the rear tend to be retained in the diff and the axles clip in to it that way...
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Old 01-11-2010, 07:17 PM   #196
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yes the rear axles need circlips...and unless they stayed inside the diff u need to put them on. they arent expensive and youre supposed to replace those anyway
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:32 PM   #197
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I have a 2004 wrx with a 2006 6 speed. I can get into gear while the car is off, but while running it doesn't let me. Using the 6mt clutch fork with a 5mt clutch, is this my problem?

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nevermind, seems to be the clip holding in the throw out bearing.

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Old 01-19-2010, 12:51 PM   #198
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If I go with option #1 would I be able to re-use all 4 axles, as long as I keep the same diff in the car? I have an 02 wrx and was thinking of getting a 06-07 sti trans.
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Old 01-19-2010, 01:53 PM   #199
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Ok I have 2 options as I get ready for this swap.

Been reading and digesting several threads on the subject.

O3 wrx.

Option 1 2004 STI 6mt
-R160 Regeared
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-Crossmember and Mount
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-6-speed clutch fork and slave cylinder?
-STI Driveshaft and Flange

Option 2 2005 STI 6mt
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-Crossmember and Mount
-DCCD controller
-6-speed clutch fork and slave cylinder?
-STI Driveshaft and Flange
-2005 WRX front axles OR 2004 STI front axles OR re-use my current W/Stubs

This sound accurate?
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Ok I have 2 options as I get ready for this swap.

Been reading and digesting several threads on the subject.

O3 wrx.

Option 1 2004 STI 6mt
-R160 Regeared
-6 speed shifter and assembly
-Crossmember and Mount
-DCCD controller
-6-speed clutch fork and slave cylinder?
-STI Driveshaft and Flange

Option 2 2005 STI 6mt
-R160 Regeared
-6 speed shifter and assembly
-Crossmember and Mount
-DCCD controller
-6-speed clutch fork and slave cylinder?
-STI Driveshaft and Flange
-2005 WRX front axles OR 2004 STI front axles OR re-use my current W/Stubs

This sound accurate?
- You'll have to use the 6MT's clutch fork
- Your WRX's slave cylinder can be re-used on the 6MT
- You can re-use your WRX's front axle but will need the stubs/oil seal/circlip IF the 6MT is "stubless".
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