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View Poll Results: Which is better?
2008 Subaru STI 14 14.58%
2008 BMW 335xi Sedan 34 35.42%
2008 Infiniti G35X Sedan 12 12.50%
2008 Subaru Legacy 2.5GT Limited 22 22.92%
Other (specify!) 7 7.29%
Subaru SVX! There is no other option! 7 7.29%
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:37 AM   #1
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Default High Performance, decent gas mileage, 4 doors, what would you get?

POAL FEWLS!!1

The BMW idea is still on the table. (if anyone knows the history of that)

We have a '04 Denali right now as "the family car" and it's terrible on gas (average 14mpg) and much too big (IMO) for what we need. I hate driving it. So I want something with better gas mileage and decent performance but still AWD and has plenty of room.

Here's the current candidates:

2008 STI.

Pros: Decent gas mileage, fun to drive (? have to test drive), new wagon style means more cargo room, AWD.

Cons: Probably rough suspension like the last gen, wifey says we can't get another Subaru since I've already "been there, done that". Besides, I'd be a hypocrite because I've been so vehemently hateful of the new design (though the STI is 100x better than the current Mazda Impreza).

2008 BMW 335xi Sedan

Pros: Decent gas mileage, also fun to drive, bigger than the Impreza, BMW fit, finish and comfort. Plus European delivery savings and experience.

Cons: Expensive.

2008 Infiniti G35X Sedan

Pros: Decent gas mileage, fun to drive, as big as the 3-series, much less expensive feature for feature than the 3-series.

Cons: Despite claiming more interior room than the 3-series, my head hits the ceiling with the seat all the way down , typical bouncy Japanese suspension tuning.

2008 Legacy 2.5GT Limited

Pros: Same as all the above, mostly.

Cons: Smallish back seat (my head hits the ceiling, when it didn't in the back of my WRX or STi. Huh?)

Wife is pretty much stuck on the BMW but I'm searching for the "good performance + good mileage + AWD + decent room" options and there's really not much out there.

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Old 12-31-2007, 03:39 AM   #2
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what is this?!!

you all win your class-action lawsuits against big tobacco? seems like every mother crusher in here has got money these days for a new car!
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:40 AM   #3
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Tough list....it'd come down to the Infiniti and the Legacy for me, the test drive would tell.


Side thought....when's the 3.7L going in the G35 sedan?
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:40 AM   #4
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:40 AM   #5
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what is this?!!

you all win your class-action lawsuits against big tobacco? seems like every mother crusher in here has got money these days for a new car!
end of year sales? new model year coming soon....
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:41 AM   #6
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what is this?!!

you all win your class-action lawsuits against big tobacco? seems like every mother crusher in here has got money these days for a new car!
Naw, good buying and selling of previous cars. Whatever we get it would be financed after trading in the Denali.

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Old 12-31-2007, 03:42 AM   #7
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i voted for the g35x.

its like having a platinum blonde dyed mistress with big fake boobs
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:42 AM   #8
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Tough list....it'd come down to the Infiniti and the Legacy for me, the test drive would tell.


Side thought....when's the 3.7L going in the G35 sedan?
I was wondering about waiting for a G37 if it ever happens. We test drove the G35 sedan and it was impressive but the BMW tops it in everything, which really is reflected in the price of course.

The G35 is attractive because it's so inexpensive (compared to the BMW) and it has the same engine as the 350Z (which my wife loved).

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Old 12-31-2007, 03:42 AM   #9
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you all win your class-action lawsuits against big tobacco? seems like every mother crusher in here has got money these days for a new car!
+123...

I feel so everytime someone makes one of these threads
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STI = decent gas mileage?

I suppose it's true... if you consider 18-20mpg w/ 93 gas to be 'decent'. Might as well buy a V8 SUV.
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I was wondering about waiting for a G37 if it ever happens. We test drove the G35 sedan and it was impressive but the BMW tops it in everything, which really is reflected in the price of course.

The G35 is attractive because it's so inexpensive (compared to the BMW) and it has the same engine as the 350Z (which my wife loved).

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yeah, we didn't even drive Audi or BMW when we were looking for my wife's car. We were looking at used, and didn't want the repair/service bills. But you trade cars like I change underwear, so it's clearly not a problem for you

We wound up with an 04 G35, now the wife's talking about waiting for the G37 for her next car, (4 door).
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:46 AM   #12
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ohhhh yeahh... dial up some tim deluxe remix tracks while cruising for crackhoes in seattle at 2am...

(i think this is an older one though damn you GIS)

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STI = decent gas mileage?

I suppose it's true... if you consider 18-20mpg w/ 93 gas to be 'decent'. Might as well buy a V8 SUV.
yore right foot needs to find middle ground. The gas isn't an on/off switch.
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STI = decent gas mileage?

I suppose it's true... if you consider 18-20mpg w/ 93 gas to be 'decent'. Might as well buy a V8 SUV.
My '04 got 25-27 on the freeway. And that was with 300awhp. My Evo manages 28.

I thought the new one was rated around 25mpg freeway?

Either way, pretty much any of the cars on that list represents a $1000-1500 per year savings on gas (average to average) vs. the Denali.

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Old 12-31-2007, 03:49 AM   #15
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yeah, we didn't even drive Audi or BMW when we were looking for my wife's car. We were looking at used, and didn't want the repair/service bills. But you trade cars like I change underwear, so it's clearly not a problem for you

We wound up with an 04 G35, now the wife's talking about waiting for the G37 for her next car, (4 door).
Hey, I buy right and believe it or not, I've never been backwards on a car. Even when I sold my GLI a year after I bought it.

I'd probably buy used on everything but the BMW, simply because of the European delivery option has been a dream of mine since forever, and my wife would really love to do it as well. Otherwise it just makes more sense to buy relatively new but used so you don't loose that $10k just driving off the lot.

The other advantage of buying new with the BMW is the free 4yr maintenance.

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yore right foot needs to find middle ground. The gas isn't an on/off switch.
I did some testing a while back when I bought mine. Did multiple tanks both ways.. some while romping on it the entire time... other tanks while babying it constantly and keeping it off of boost. My best mpg was 20.1 and worst was in the low 18's. I do an even split of highway and city miles. Trust me when I tell you that it doesn't matter how you drive it... you're looking at 18-20mpg if you do 50 city/50 hw driving.
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I did some testing a while back when I bought mine. Did multiple tanks both ways.. some while romping on it the entire time... other tanks while babying it constantly and keeping it off of boost. My best mpg was 20.1 and worst was in the low 18's. I do an even split of highway and city miles. Trust me when I tell you that it doesn't matter how you drive it... you're looking at 18-20mpg if you do 50 city/50 hw driving.
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I did some testing a while back when I bought mine. Did multiple tanks both ways.. some while romping on it the entire time... other tanks while babying it constantly and keeping it off of boost. My best mpg was 20.1 and worst was in the low 18's. I do an even split of highway and city miles. Trust me when I tell you that it doesn't matter how you drive it... you're looking at 18-20mpg if you do 50 city/50 hw driving.


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Old 12-31-2007, 03:56 AM   #19
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I would save up more, wait, and get the new Nissan GT-R when it comes out...
That's what I want to trade my '06 Corvette for in a year or two... All the power of the Corvette, but with more traction and more room

Oh, wait, you said 4 door... Bah, for that kind of performance I think you can sacrifice 2 doors you won't use half the time anyways
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No option for IS350?

Well, thats my vote.
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How about a new Forester XT? Those are pretty roomy and they dont look half bad either.
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