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Old 01-06-2008, 09:59 PM   #1
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Default GM's to Sell Self-Driving Cars in 10 Years

GM researching driverless cars By TOM KRISHER, AP Auto Writer
Sun Jan 6, 6:37 PM ET



DETROIT - Cars that drive themselves even parking at their destination could be ready for sale within a decade, General Motors Corp. executives say.

GM, parts suppliers, university engineers and other automakers all are working on vehicles that could revolutionize short- and long-distance travel. And Tuesday at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner will devote part of his speech to the driverless vehicles.

"This is not science fiction," Larry Burns, GM's vice president for research and development, said in a recent interview.

The most significant obstacles facing the vehicles could be human rather than technical: government regulation, liability laws, privacy concerns and people's passion for the automobile and the control it gives them.

Much of the technology already exists for vehicles to take the wheel: radar-based cruise control, motion sensors, lane-change warning devices, electronic stability control and satellite-based digital mapping. And automated vehicles could dramatically improve life on the road, reducing crashes and congestion.

If people are interested.

"Now the question is what does society want to do with it?" Burns said. "You're looking at these issues of congestion, safety, energy and emissions. Technically there should be no reason why we can't transfer to a totally different world."

GM plans to use an inexpensive computer chip and an antenna to link vehicles equipped with driverless technologies. The first use likely would be on highways; people would have the option to choose a driverless mode while they still would control the vehicle on local streets, Burns said.

He said the company plans to test driverless car technology by 2015 and have cars on the road around 2018.

Sebastian Thrun, co-leader of the Stanford University team that finished second among six teams completing a 60-mile Pentagon-sponsored race of driverless cars in November, said GM's goal is technically attainable. But he said he wasn't confident cars would appear in showrooms within a decade.

"There's some very fundamental, basic regulations in the way of that vision in many countries," said Thrun, a professor of computer science and electrical engineering.

The Defense Department contest, which initially involved 35 teams, showed the technology isn't ready for prime time. One team was eliminated after its vehicle nearly charged into a building, while another vehicle mysteriously pulled into a house's carport and parked itself.

Thrun said a key benefit of the technology eventually will be safer roads and reducing the roughly 42,000 U.S. traffic deaths that occur annually 95 percent of which he said are caused by human mistakes.

"We might be able to cut those numbers down by a factor of 50 percent," Thrun said. "Just imagine all the funerals that won't take place."

Other challenges include updating vehicle codes and figuring out who would be liable in a crash and how to cope with blown tires or obstacles in the road. But the systems could be developed to tell motorists about road conditions, warn of crashes or stopped vehicles ahead and prevent collisions in intersections.

Later versions of driverless technology could reduce jams by directing vehicles to space themselves close together, almost as if they were cars in a train, and maximize the use of space on a freeway, he said.

"It will really change society, very much like the transition from a horse to a car," Thrun said.

The U.S. government has pushed technology to help drivers avoid crashes, most notably electronic stability controls that help prevent rollovers. The systems are required on new passenger vehicles starting with the 2012 model year.

Vehicle-to-vehicle communication and technology allowing cars to talk with highway systems could come next.

Still in debate are how to address drivers' privacy, whether current vehicles can be retrofitted and how many vehicles would be need the systems to develop an effective network.

"Where it shakes out remains to be seen but there is no question we see a lot of potential there," said Rae Tyson, a spokesman for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

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Old 01-07-2008, 07:35 PM   #2
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i have a feeling that this would fail. The feeling comes from not every car on the road is going to be able to drive itself and id have a feeling that there would be more deaths on the road because the human in the self-driving car couldnt react to situations cause by the other drives on the road.
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Old 01-07-2008, 07:41 PM   #3
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I'm not comfortable driving most GM products, but I guess I'll be alright if GM will do the driving for me
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:14 PM   #4
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Never gonna happen.
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Old 01-07-2008, 08:18 PM   #5
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Oh it will. I can totally see that someday it'll be illegal to drive through town with a car under manual control. Think of the children...

It won't be in the next ten years, but it'll happen.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:22 PM   #6
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I'm not comfortable driving most GM products, but I guess I'll be alright if GM will do the driving for me
if there is anyone IN PARTICULAR I wouldn't trust to drive for me, it would be GM. They can't build their cars properly currently, and i'm supposed to sit back and read the paper while they drive me around? not likely.
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Default GM to file bankruptcy in 10.01 years...

due to lawsuits surrounding accidents in automatically driven cars.
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didn't GM say they were gonna do this 10 years ago?
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Old 01-08-2008, 02:23 PM   #9
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i'm sure GM will do the smart thing and partner up with microsoft the way ford did. That way we'll trust our lives to windows-based cars.
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Imagine crusing down the highway and all of the suden you get the blue screen of death
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Can I try this in a Honda first?
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Imagine crusing down the highway and all of the suden you get the blue screen of death
You know we'd have guys modding their cars to run on an open-source driverless operating system and then having their warranties voided.

I would not trust an MS car to drive for me. Ever.


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By that time all meals will be in pill form and the world will be ruled by damn, dirty apes.
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