Are there things opensource can't do?

sluflyer06 · 01-18-2008, 05:19 PM

OK. I'm looking for any downsides to opensource as opposed to being pro tuned with the Accessport like I am now.

Is there anything open source can't do in terms of tuning that the AP can?

Is there advantages of open source? (besides cost, and i don't care about FFS or 2 step on the AP)

Thanks guys.

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Tea cups · 01-18-2008, 05:49 PM

Openecu can't currently do real-time tuning, map switching and does not have launch control/FFS. Openecu requires a laptop to flash v. a handheld device (AP). For logging, Cobb supports more wbo2s than Enginuity. Cobb supports CANbus (07+ LGT/FXT, 08+
WRX/STi) which is not currently supported by openecu.

Advantages of openecu are, of course, cost ($80 for the cable - that's it). Also the ability to tune ECUs from different markets (ADM,EDM,JDM) and 05+ naturally aspirated Subarus which Cobb does not handle. Enginuity's logger also supports a number of useful extended parameters (with latest defs) which you cannot log with Cobb's logger. Other advantage is the ability to completely view/modify your professional openecu tune.

As far as tuning, there are some tables available with Enginuity/Ecuflash (with the latest defs) that are not available with Cobb's software (according to professional tuners who use both) and vice versa (some tables available with Cobb that aren't available with openecu).

Wheeler Bement · 01-18-2008, 06:14 PM

opensource won't wash your laundry or make you supper either

drkramm · 01-19-2008, 05:46 AM

you just don't know the proper key combo

marrenr813 · 01-19-2008, 05:52 AM

Can opensource copy my COBB APV2 protuned map w/ FFS/LC? So I can sell my APV2? I do not want the LC/FFS BTW.

sluflyer06 · 01-19-2008, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marrenr813

Can opensource copy my COBB APV2 protuned map w/ FFS/LC? So I can sell my APV2? I do not want the LC/FFS BTW.

don't think so, the Cobb maps are locked to be edited from anyone other than the tuner who made them.

marrenr813 · 01-19-2008, 01:30 PM

That sucks...

simon021 · 01-19-2008, 03:47 PM

.....

marrenr813 · 01-19-2008, 05:37 PM

So can he still set it the same way he did before?

sluflyer06 · 01-19-2008, 06:26 PM

For some reason I thought i'd get alot more responses in this forum.

just to try to get things back on track...I'm protuned with a Accessport v1 right now, its got VERY limited space to make map changes due to scaling for 3" maf, injectors, interrupt style boost control, etc. Also there is a limited # of people who have the protuner software. Is tuning with opensource any cause for loss of power or safety in the tunes?

rkramer · 01-19-2008, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluflyer06

Is tuning with opensource any cause for loss of power or safety in the tunes?

a tune is a tune... how you get the data on to your car is what the open source vs AP argument is. neither is safer then the other.

quazimoto · 01-19-2008, 07:50 PM

No.Why would it cause loss of power or safety as compared to any other flash based EM?Tuning is tuning.Your not getting alot of responces because obviously you have done very little research on your own.

sluflyer06 · 01-20-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dumdum

No.Why would it cause loss of power or safety as compared to any other flash based EM?Tuning is tuning.Your not getting alot of responces because obviously you have done very little research on your own.

I'm just feeling things out, I have no presumptions about a lack of capability for either, I was just trying to find out if there was any glaring difference..seems there isn't.

At this point I'm not looking to do any tuning myself anyway, just seeing if opensource is a viable option I have not explored.

rkramer · 01-20-2008, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluflyer06

At this point I'm not looking to do any tuning myself anyway, just seeing if opensource is a viable option I have not explored.

as mentioned above, the biggest difference is the COMMONLY available open source stuff doesn't have launch control or real time tuning/map switching. (and from what it sounds like, those features may never happen either) If you don't plan on using those, then AP vs Open source makes no difference.

01-18-2008, 05:19 PM	#1
sluflyer06 Scooby Specialist Member#: 111641 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: St. Louis, MO Vehicle: 08 BMW 135i MSport tuned/full exhaust/intake	Are there things opensource can't do? OK. I'm looking for any downsides to opensource as opposed to being pro tuned with the Accessport like I am now. Is there anything open source can't do in terms of tuning that the AP can? Is there advantages of open source? (besides cost, and i don't care about FFS or 2 step on the AP) Thanks guys. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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01-18-2008, 05:49 PM	#2
Tea cups Scooby Specialist Member#: 103136 Join Date: Dec 2005	Openecu can't currently do real-time tuning, map switching and does not have launch control/FFS. Openecu requires a laptop to flash v. a handheld device (AP). For logging, Cobb supports more wbo2s than Enginuity. Cobb supports CANbus (07+ LGT/FXT, 08+ WRX/STi) which is not currently supported by openecu. Advantages of openecu are, of course, cost ($80 for the cable - that's it). Also the ability to tune ECUs from different markets (ADM,EDM,JDM) and 05+ naturally aspirated Subarus which Cobb does not handle. Enginuity's logger also supports a number of useful extended parameters (with latest defs) which you cannot log with Cobb's logger. Other advantage is the ability to completely view/modify your professional openecu tune. As far as tuning, there are some tables available with Enginuity/Ecuflash (with the latest defs) that are not available with Cobb's software (according to professional tuners who use both) and vice versa (some tables available with Cobb that aren't available with openecu).

01-18-2008, 06:14 PM	#3
Wheeler Bement Scooby Specialist Member#: 15652 Join Date: Feb 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: sugar land, katy Vehicle: 2002 2.5L WRX Wag. 160K club	opensource won't wash your laundry or make you supper either

01-19-2008, 05:46 AM	#4
drkramm Scooby Specialist Member#: 159156 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: catasauqua, pa Vehicle: 2007 wrx wrb	you just don't know the proper key combo

01-19-2008, 05:52 AM	#5
marrenr813 Scooby Specialist Member#: 135668 Join Date: Dec 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego & Temecula Vehicle: 2006 IX GSR Tarmac Black (STI traded)	Can opensource copy my COBB APV2 protuned map w/ FFS/LC? So I can sell my APV2? I do not want the LC/FFS BTW.

01-19-2008, 01:30 PM	#7
marrenr813 Scooby Specialist Member#: 135668 Join Date: Dec 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego & Temecula Vehicle: 2006 IX GSR Tarmac Black (STI traded)	That sucks...

01-19-2008, 05:37 PM	#9
marrenr813 Scooby Specialist Member#: 135668 Join Date: Dec 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Diego & Temecula Vehicle: 2006 IX GSR Tarmac Black (STI traded)	So can he still set it the same way he did before?

01-19-2008, 06:26 PM	#10
sluflyer06 Scooby Specialist Member#: 111641 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: St. Louis, MO Vehicle: 08 BMW 135i MSport tuned/full exhaust/intake	For some reason I thought i'd get alot more responses in this forum. just to try to get things back on track...I'm protuned with a Accessport v1 right now, its got VERY limited space to make map changes due to scaling for 3" maf, injectors, interrupt style boost control, etc. Also there is a limited # of people who have the protuner software. Is tuning with opensource any cause for loss of power or safety in the tunes?

01-19-2008, 07:50 PM	#12
quazimoto Scooby Guru Member#: 70395 Join Date: Sep 2004 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Da-boonies,Va	No.Why would it cause loss of power or safety as compared to any other flash based EM?Tuning is tuning.Your not getting alot of responces because obviously you have done very little research on your own.