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Old 01-22-2008, 11:02 AM   #1
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Okay so here is the story. Sunday afternoon I was driving my 07 TR and left rear tire blew out the inner side wall. The tires have less then 28,000 miles on them. No racing on them, rotated every 3000 miles, and air pressure checked 2 times a month, just moderate driving. I sent an email to SOA on this, but my insurance might try to go after Bridgestone about it. I know, I know the 92's suck and yes they do. But I have had no problems with them untill this. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up about it.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:05 AM   #2
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I hope they do something. Yes we may no RE92's suck but theres no disclaimer that says "After purchasing your brand new Subaru you must then purchase new tires because we are to cheap to put better tires on great cars."
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:09 AM   #3
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Thanks, If any of you happen to have this happen regardless if you crash or not, please report it. Then it can be the whole 99 explorer fiasco all over again. Maybe we will all get some money. Regardless I just want to get my car back and fixed. Hoping that it is not totaled because of it. Look at this post for the pics of the aftermath of the tire blowing out.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...364069&page=84
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:14 AM   #4
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I had my two front tires wear down to belts with in 25k miles.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:18 AM   #5
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Hopefully something was sent to either bridgestone or SOA about that or both. I am going to try to get ahold of bridgestone and see what they say.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:22 AM   #6
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WOW all that from a blown tire which could have been prevented if RE92's WERE NEVER MADE. I would suggest talking to Bridgestone before Subaru. Bridgestone makes them, knowing that they suck and continues to do so. Subaru uses them knowing that they suck. It could go two directions.

1. Bridgestone pays for the damages due to making crappy tires.
2. Bridgestone makes Subaru pay for the damages and tells Subaru that they shouldnt have used there tires.

A dont hate the player hate the game type thing.
Dont hate the user hate the maker/distibuter.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:51 AM   #7
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I would definately get some compensation from bridgestone.

Any tire defect warranty issue should be directed to the tire manufacturer, not Subaru.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:23 PM   #8
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also sure you check your tire pressure every 2 months. However you could have very likely picked up something while driving, it ran the tire down on air and the sidewall blew to the rim cutting it thin. I've seen that just about weekly... not on my car of course lol
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:35 PM   #9
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Sorry about the accident, but that's what insurance is fore. Where's the "RE92 Scapegoat" picture when you need it? I've had 3 sets of RE92s for over 70kmi with no problems...



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The sherrif said that the inner sidewall blew out. So how does that happen? I am already looking up lawyers to see if I have a case against Bridgestone. These tires have less then 28,000 miles on them.
I think you're going to need a little more to go on that what the sheriff said to start making a claim. Looking at your pictures, it's hard to tell when the tire failed (before or after the accident). Also looking at the pictures, the conditions were far from optimal for the RE92s.
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Every time I hear "blowout" the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. I work for a wheel and tire company and I deal with warranty claims etc on a daily basis. I would love to see a picture of your "blowout" and the damage to the sidewall inside and outside. I would be willing to bet that the problem was caused by the driver. I am also guessing that this "blowout" happened on the highway right?

It will be one of 2 issues:

1. You have a puncture somewhere in the tire and it was a slow enough leak that is caused the tire to overheat on the sidewalls and you caused a heatring bad enough to rip a hole in the sidewall. (80% of flats happen on the LR of the car, and 90% of sidewall damage is caused by the consumer)

2. You had an impact break on the sidewall. Basically when you hit a pothole just right you pinch the sidewall b/w the wheel and the ground and you tear the inner liner of the tire, which causes a blister type of damage on the sidewall. If not fixed soon and you drive on the highway the tire will heat up and the blister will get bigger and bigger eventually stressing the sidewall enough to blow the sidewall out.

Both of the above are NOT considered tire defects and you will get a credit of $0 from bridgestone or subaru.

There are a few ways of approaching this with bridgestone. First you go to a bridgestone dealer and have them asses if it is a manufacturing defect or not 80% chance it will not be, and have them call bridgestone to see what type of credit you could get.
Bridgestone does not do any sort of "goodwill" adjustments for customers, so if they say its not a manufacturing defect then your SOL. You can write all the letters you want and they will not give you any credit. Bridgestone has the worst customer service of any tire company out there.

Post up some pics of the tire and I can tell you right away if they will give you a credit.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:44 PM   #11
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The conditions in the pics are from the side of the highway. The road was clear, it was about freezing temps, and the blow out did happen before the accident. I felt it (the car shuddered and it was very loud. I am getting the tire either today or tomorrow from the body shop. I am keeping it as one piece and not removing it.

On a side note, I just rotated and checked pressures on the tires on Friday and did not notice any thing in the tire (not saying that it couldn't of happened) and I didn't drive it till Sunday right before this happened. Car was garaged all weekend at 60 deg temps.

I wasn't looking for any compensation from Subaru. Just addressing the problem to them. I know that any form of tire related issues goes directly through the manufacturer. I do have insurance to cover all of it so not worried about the car getting fixed. Just addressing the fact that from my knowledge the tires were in great condition.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:51 PM   #12
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When I got my Legacy, the tire split along the bead with only 300 miles on them. SOA did nothing, and I had long bitter exchanges with Bridgestone until they claimed the tire was defective. The tire tore apart on a glass smooth road at ~ 25 mph.

After my experience with the RE-92s and dealing with Bridgestone, I have vowed never to own or by another Bridgestone tire again.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:59 PM   #13
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In the first two months I had a left front blow out on I75 traveling around 70mph. I was lucky not to put her in the wall or any other traffic.

I called the dealer where I got the car and he basically told me "too bad". I will never buy another car from them again. BTW the dealer is Byers in Columbus, Ohio.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:00 PM   #14
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Well I took another look at the tires. The tire seperated right at the tread on the inner sidewall. Hopefully car will be inside tomorrow and I will be getting tire and wheel back from them.
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:11 PM   #15
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you realise that when your tire gets low, the rim runs on the sidewall, sometimes causing it to become thin and even slice/seperate right? I could check my tires right now and have a flat on the way home for lunch. It happens. Since it looks like the tread itself survived, have you checked it for any punctures?

to roo21. Try getting ANY manufacture to warranty a tire that shredded on the highway. Chanced are all of them will tell you "to bad"
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Old 01-22-2008, 04:14 PM   #16
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No I haven't checked for any punctures yet. I am waiting for the body shop to take the wheel off the car so I can get it from them. That should be later today or tomorrow that I will have the wheel in my possesion and can go through it like crazy.
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Old 01-22-2008, 05:04 PM   #17
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Sorry, but I don't think you really have much of a case here. I am willing to bet that Mavrik is absolutly correct, and that the tire was damaged. You simply may not have noticed it because it was on the inside of the tire. All it takes is a pot hole, or a sharp poke and this can be the result

There are THOUSANDS of 17" RE-92's and this is the first instance I have heard of anyone thinking the tire just blew out. I could see if it was a regular problem...

As someone else said too, my stock RE-92's last 25k miles or so. Maybe yours had simply seen their fair share of life.
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Old 01-25-2008, 11:09 PM   #18
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I hope they do something. Yes we may no RE92's suck but theres no disclaimer that says "After purchasing your brand new Subaru you must then purchase new tires because we are to cheap to put better tires on great cars."

RE 92s are not THAT cheap they are about 90 bucks each. IDK why exactly they are that expensive but they are.

But I do agree that they SHOULD put a better all season tire on from the factory.
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:42 PM   #19
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I had my two front tires wear down to belts with in 25k miles.
Did you ever bother to rotate your tires? That would be called user error.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:31 PM   #20
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According to Tirerack.com the stock OE replacement 92's are $206. There are 2 other sets on their site (which are exactly the same) that are $177 and $190.

But regardless I am not looking for Subaru to comp me anything. I am just voicing my .02 that these tires should have a second thought when they put out their new line. I know alot of people don't like these tires, people have had problems with them as to how they handle, perform, and so forth (regardless of whos fault. Their own or manufacturer.) If enough people voice their opinion to SOA maybe we could get 960's as stock or something along those lines. Kind of a loss for those of us that already own a subbie and probably won't buy another one for years to come. But for future owners maybe they could benefit from it.

Once again I am NOT looking for any compensation or coverage from Subaru of America. I have stated that in my previous posts. Just addressing it to SOA as I hope others have with concerns about the quality of tire that is going onto the vehicles from the factory.
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are you kidding me? the re92 is a good all around tire. it's not SOA's problem that your tire blew. a rock or pothole could cause it to happen. it's a road hazard, like getting a chip on your windshield. 90% of the RE92 "problems" are driver error. the rest are dumb luck.

I had a RE92 blow out on me years ago while doing about 90, it wasn't the tire's fault though, it just wasn't designed to drive rally stages at 60+ mph.
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I had my two front tires wear down to belts with in 25k miles.
Tire rotation ftw.
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are you kidding me? the re92 is a good all around tire.
Well, I disagree. They suck. But they aren't responsible for most of the **** that gets blamed on them.
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Well, I disagree. They suck. But they aren't responsible for most of the **** that gets blamed on them.
They do NOTHING excellently, but they do EVERYTHING well enough to keep you out of trouble. 100% of the time someone has had a problem that a different tire might have prevented, it's driver error. Don't do 90 in the snow!

I've had RE92's as OEM equipment in 195/60r15, 205/55r16, and 225/45r17 (iirc) and none of them have let me down. That's over 100k miles so far on them, ranging from cross country desert, mountain, forest, etc. I cruised across Montana with the CC set for 95mph for HOURS straight without an issue, I've gone to the mountain pass dozens of times without winding up in the ditch, and I've driven in more rain than I can comprehend without hydroplaning into oncoming traffic.


The tire is fine. There are better tires out there, but very few tires that are as good or better at all driving situations.
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[quote=GodWhomIsMike;20823689]When I got my Legacy, the tire split along the bead with only 300 miles on them. SOA did nothing, and I had long bitter exchanges with Bridgestone until they claimed the tire was defective. The tire tore apart on a glass smooth road at ~ 25 mph.

After my experience with the RE-92s and dealing with Bridgestone, I have vowed never to own or by another Bridgestone tire again.[/QUOTE ]

"BRICKSTONES" suck
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RE92's are made to be OEM tire. There's ton of car using them, and they probably cost a few bucks each to the manufacturer. The reasons they are so expensive is to KEEP YOU AWAY FROM BUYING THEM AS REPLACEMENT TIRES. Everytime someone buy re92 as replacement tire, there's a bunch of people laughing out loud and rolling on the floor. There's much better tire for less even in the bridgestone lines.
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