Internet Tunes - who? - Page 2

HighSpeedRacerX · 02-26-2008, 03:59 PM

Dom Tuning is www.getadomtune.com (blocked! Sorry) Looks interesting...any reviews?

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HOLLYW00D · 02-26-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighSpeedRacerX

Dom Tuning is www.google.com (blocked! Sorry) Looks interesting...any reviews?

i have a comparison of AWDTuning and DomTune here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1441346

06rexwagon · 02-26-2008, 04:20 PM

Don't forget me. CAMTuning. I set up a website too. put .com after camtuning. Look around ppb and see some of my cars. I mostly do local tunes, but still tune email as well.

snobrder_ad · 02-27-2008, 05:56 AM

i would recommend going against having it tuned by dominic. he is local to where i live and a lot of people have had problems with his tunes.... including my neighbor. just some food for thought

breezeby · 02-27-2008, 08:47 AM

The List:

Code:

CAMTuning = www.camtuning.com - 06rexwagon's Internet Tunes  :)

this one is pretty good
+1

06rexwagon · 02-27-2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by breezeby

The List:

Code:

CAMTuning = www.camtuning.com - 06rexwagon's Internet Tunes  :)

this one is pretty good
+1

Thanks!

breezeby · 02-27-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06rexwagon

Thanks!

ya ya
i know i am doin you some advertising

Benchmark Tuning · 03-02-2008, 07:39 PM

I wanted to stop by this thread to post up some information and answer any questions for those looking for internet tuning with me.

The tuning I offer for cars up to stage 2 is $60, once you get into the more involved set-ups (above stage 2) or more modified cars you would have to PM me a list of mods. From there I would set-up the price for those cars according how modified the car is, as well as what needs to be done.

Matt-

555 Motorsports

R & H Garage · 03-03-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snobrder_ad

i would recommend going against having it tuned by dominic. he is local to where i live and a lot of people have had problems with his tunes.... including my neighbor. just some food for thought

LOL

It's true, I suck.

That's why I had the fastest Subaru at Battle Of the Imports.
At subyfest2, the car that won "Gross Display of Horsepower" was tuned by me.
I've only had one engine fail on the dyno and it wasn't even tune related.
I guarantee my tunes. Some people do in fact have issues, but I'm always there to help get things straight. Everyone points at the tune first thing, but it's RARELY ever the tune.

I always read this: "my friend's neighbor's cousin had a dom tune and hated it"

People are allowed to not like me, that's 100% fine. I know there are a lot of people I don't like. I just ask that if someone has something negative to say, why not get the person with the experience to chime in? I welcome complaints. Constructive criticism is good. That's why I have a Pissed Off section on my website.

HOLLYWOOD is the only person that's ever had the balls to actually complain on the forum. And he was just pissed because he didn't get super special treatment. I did however take some of his criticism to heart and stopped taking new internet tune customers until I could catch up with my work load.

Oh and snobrder_ad, your tuner said to me

Quote:

MaSteR2192 (8:45:15 PM): ... As I said though, I don't have all the answers, you've got years of experience over me and it was mostly an error of hubris early on as I felt I could be a better tuner than you

Sean had an awesome attitude and great character. RIP.

-Dominic

Homemade WRX · 03-03-2008, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snobrder_ad

i would recommend going against having it tuned by dominic. he is local to where i live and a lot of people have had problems with his tunes.... including my neighbor. just some food for thought

well, I'd disagree...he use to tune at the dyno shop that he and I worked at...he's the only person other than myself I trust to tune my car. I'll also be flying him cross country to tune both my new 35r and my 42r set ups...
Also, from every customer he's tuned, I've never heard one complaint nor have they had an issue.

HOLLYW00D · 03-03-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KitoAutoSport

HOLLYWOOD is the only person that's ever had the balls to actually complain on the forum. And he was just pissed because he didn't get super special treatment. I did however take some of his criticism to heart and stopped taking new internet tune customers until I could catch up with my work load.

hey Dom,

glad to hear things are progressing. you may also want to take note of the mods that you are tuning for. your "super special treatment" package could include tuning for the proper injectors. this may not be an issue in the future seeing as how you are managing your online tunes better (judging from your post above), but just some food for thought.

godspeed,
v.

maveric7911 · 03-03-2008, 04:48 PM

I have an opposite experience with dom. Not only did I get fantastic support "received 3 revisions in 2 hours" but the tune was top notch. I can not think of anyone who I would rather have an internet tune from. As he has stated before with internet tuning "especially from a high end tuner" one has to have patients or pay for special attention.

HOLLYW00D · 03-03-2008, 04:52 PM

the "special attention" check box is missing and price not stated, maybe that could be incorporated.

maveric7911 · 03-03-2008, 05:04 PM

I believe its stated properly on his website what the expected turn around time is. Otherwise I would think one would ask if they wanted a special session outside of what was stated.

Zumble · 03-03-2008, 05:53 PM

Not looking at the AFR Learning Column and AFR Immediate Column and the WB/AFR column in the logs is a pretty big screw up. I'll bet it won't happen again though.

The website does say 1-5 days. But.. I think if someone has a injector issue that renders the car unusable, I think 1 day turn around is expected. I don't want to hear anyone saying he had 5 days to correct that problem. But then again, he didn't catch the problem in the logs sent to him. The problem was presented 3 times in the logs. But that brings us back to point one. He probably won't make that mistake again.

Hollywood said is peace and found a tuner he's happy with. Back to our usual programming.

wrxsti.l · 03-03-2008, 06:02 PM

What is funny is that people EXPECT "special treatment" and a faster turn around then stated on his website and only pay $60 lol.

If you want a quick turn around because you need your car on the road, then I suspect an Internet tune (with its associated delays) is not for you.

I need to point this out and make it clear:
If you need an instant (in a day) tune, go to your local tuner and pay the money for it. If you are happy to wait the turn around time stated for your emailed rom to be modified and save a few hundred $ in the process, then Internet tunes are for you.

Zumble · 03-03-2008, 06:10 PM

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I absolutely expect my car to at least run after internet tune. I state I have injectors, I better get a map that I can at least drive the car normally with. This didn't happen. This is NOT SPECIAL TREATMENT! Special treatment is to get the OL afrs dead on on the first try with a modified intake and injectors. Special treatment is to have boost control 100% perfect on the first try. Special treatment is to get boost to come on at 3000 rpm with a FP Green.

Having the car idle correctly is NOT special treatment.

This isn't a 60 dollar one time deal either. This is a subscription service of 60 dollars a month. Lets say someone makes 60 dollars an hour (many people don't make this kinda money). I expect the tuner to at least spend 1 hour of undivided time on my map then. A lot can be done in an hour. I expect the tuner to spend a solid 5-10 minutes staring at the logs I send him. I should still have 55 minutes for him to make a new map. I really hope Don didn't take a full 5-10 minutes staring at the logs. Because if he did and still missed all the fueling issues.. that's really bad.

I really don't think hollywood was asking for special attention.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrxsti.l

What is funny is that people EXPECT "special treatment" and a faster turn around then stated on his website and only pay $60 lol.

If you want a quick turn around because you need your car on the road, then I suspect an Internet tune (with its associated delays) is not for you.

I need to point this out and make it clear:
If you need an instant (in a day) tune, go to your local tuner and pay the money for it. If you are happy to wait the turn around time stated for your emailed rom to be modified and save a few hundred $ in the process, then Internet tunes are for you.

Freon · 03-03-2008, 07:13 PM

I would recommend against all "internet" tunes. I don't think counting on the customer to alleviate all mechanical problems plus diligently log their car is at all realistic.

Seriously, people who need tuning generally do NOT know what they're doing at all. I think very few do. Rather than kid yourself into thinking you're one of the few who knows just enough to gather the data and troubleshoot local problems but not tune, just skip the whole ordeal and find someone local who knows what they're doing.

maveric7911 · 03-03-2008, 07:49 PM

As much as I rarely disagree with you on things freon I would have to in this case. There are a very large amount of situations that do not allow for "local shop tuning". Anything from not have any local shops within 100 miles that can do the tuning on open source to there are some tuners who do a very good job at getting you dialed closely in with proper logging. Its all about patients as you are needing to provide logs and be patient with your tuner. However I will agree with you that it is very important to know what to look for during this process to ensure your not destroying your car.

Is it perfect no. Is its well better then acceptable yes.

wrxsti.l · 03-03-2008, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freon

I would recommend against all "internet" tunes. I don't think counting on the customer to alleviate all mechanical problems plus diligently log their car is at all realistic.

This may be the case if the customer chooses to log while driving down a street - but not so while logging on a dyno.

Any dyno operator you use should at least have the knowledge and experience of dyno tuning and as such they should be on the lookout for things that may cause engine damage while it is being logged on the dyno. It is important you check to ensure the dyno operator is monitoring vitals and that if anything looks bad the run is stopped.

alex_s817 · 03-03-2008, 11:13 PM

ill vouch for Dom he has been helping me out for a few months now. i wrecked my car halfway through the tune, and he has been good to help me finish getting it running perfect even though my months worth was quite a while back. i have gotten over 3 revisions in less than an hour as well. not to mention if you have any problems with the car, he will talk to you online or on the phone and try to get things resolved. he gets my vote for internet tuning

JMS77 · 03-03-2008, 11:14 PM

pm sent. THX

R & H Garage · 03-04-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zumble

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I absolutely expect my car to at least run after internet tune. I state I have injectors, I better get a map that I can at least drive the car normally with. This didn't happen. This is NOT SPECIAL TREATMENT! Special treatment is to get the OL afrs dead on on the first try with a modified intake and injectors. Special treatment is to have boost control 100% perfect on the first try. Special treatment is to get boost to come on at 3000 rpm with a FP Green.

Having the car idle correctly is NOT special treatment.

This isn't a 60 dollar one time deal either. This is a subscription service of 60 dollars a month. Lets say someone makes 60 dollars an hour (many people don't make this kinda money). I expect the tuner to at least spend 1 hour of undivided time on my map then. A lot can be done in an hour. I expect the tuner to spend a solid 5-10 minutes staring at the logs I send him. I should still have 55 minutes for him to make a new map. I really hope Don didn't take a full 5-10 minutes staring at the logs. Because if he did and still missed all the fueling issues.. that's really bad.

I really don't think hollywood was asking for special attention.

I half agree with you.

I did not do my best with Hollywood's car. I should have done better and paid more attention. That much is correct. I've apologized for this publicly and personally on many levels. For him to continue to post negative comments about me and try to further hurt my business is pretty immature. I gave a refund and a bunch of apologies. As well as offer to finish the tune free of charge for as long as it took. Any customer that wants more than that is selfish, egocentric, vengeful and unrealistic.

This injector thing really makes me laugh now. In fact, it truly shows the ignorance of the customer. Hollywood acts as if I scaled an 850cc injector for 400ccs. When in fact, I scaled an 850 injector to match 816cc injectors. Also, when someone states ' MY AFRs were 10.X when at WOT and it's dangerous and could damage my motor etc etc etc' .... I have an idea... how about, DON'T FLOOR IT. Keep your god damn foot out of it until the idle and the injector scalings are set properly. You don't HAVE to go WOT on your way to work in the morning. Seriously people. Like wrx dude said, the tuner knows when to get out of it on the dyno to keep from damaging a car. The customer does not always. In his case, he "knew better" but did it anyway, submitted incomplete logs (missing important things like.. uh... TIMING) and still blamed me. That takes a whole special category of person.

Freon is right in that it takes a certain level of competence and understanding on the customer's side for an internet tune to be successful. For that reason, I have almost eliminated internet tuning all together. I have spent so many hours trying to troubleshoot a problem via internet that any half competent mechanic could have fixed in 5 minutes looking at the car. The biggest being boost control issues or the vacuum line to the FPR popping off. Of course the customer was blaming the tune when it was a physical, mechanical problem.

For those with the kind words:
Thank you. I'm glad you were happy with your service and I hope to tune your next setup or build you a nice race engine. Please feel free to watch the forums as a few of my recent builds hit the streets for some pretty sweet power and drive ability.

Warmest Regards to all,
Dominic

Zumble · 03-04-2008, 09:45 AM

I'll vouch for the fact that the injector size was scaled correctly. The latency values were probably out of wack though. I really don't doubt your tuning ability but I was unhappy you dropped the ball in seeing that there was a fueling problem. I'm sure if you had realized there was an issue, it would have taken you less time to fix it than I. It took me 6 revisions to fix it since I had to use trial and error. I would hope most professional tuners have a database of correct values to use.

He really couldn't have just not floored it. The car was in the 11s at idle. =( Just putting a bit of throttle in to it brought it to 10s and 9s. In this instance, just not flooring it wouldn't have worked.

In the case of Hollywood I think he was ahead of the curve for logging, he had wideband info in his logs to verify fueling.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KitoAutoSport

I half agree with you.

I did not do my best with Hollywood's car. I should have done better and paid more attention. That much is correct. I've apologized for this publicly and personally on many levels. For him to continue to post negative comments about me and try to further hurt my business is pretty immature. I gave a refund and a bunch of apologies. As well as offer to finish the tune free of charge for as long as it took. Any customer that wants more than that is selfish, egocentric, vengeful and unrealistic.

This injector thing really makes me laugh now. In fact, it truly shows the ignorance of the customer. Hollywood acts as if I scaled an 850cc injector for 400ccs. When in fact, I scaled an 850 injector to match 816cc injectors. Also, when someone states ' MY AFRs were 10.X when at WOT and it's dangerous and could damage my motor etc etc etc' .... I have an idea... how about, DON'T FLOOR IT. Keep your god damn foot out of it until the idle and the injector scalings are set properly. You don't HAVE to go WOT on your way to work in the morning. Seriously people. Like wrx dude said, the tuner knows when to get out of it on the dyno to keep from damaging a car. The customer does not always. In his case, he "knew better" but did it anyway, submitted incomplete logs (missing important things like.. uh... TIMING) and still blamed me. That takes a whole special category of person.

Freon is right in that it takes a certain level of competence and understanding on the customer's side for an internet tune to be successful. For that reason, I have almost eliminated internet tuning all together. I have spent so many hours trying to troubleshoot a problem via internet that any half competent mechanic could have fixed in 5 minutes looking at the car. The biggest being boost control issues or the vacuum line to the FPR popping off. Of course the customer was blaming the tune when it was a physical, mechanical problem.

For those with the kind words:
Thank you. I'm glad you were happy with your service and I hope to tune your next setup or build you a nice race engine. Please feel free to watch the forums as a few of my recent builds hit the streets for some pretty sweet power and drive ability.

Warmest Regards to all,
Dominic

06rexwagon · 03-04-2008, 10:46 AM

I'm going to stick my neck out for Dominic. I've never dealt with him or talked to him but by reading his posts you can tell he knows where the mistake was made.
That being said, this thread is supposed to be about who offers internet tunes. If you want to start another thread to lynch Dom in that's up to you.

02-27-2008, 08:47 AM	#30
breezeby Scooby Specialist Member#: 132658 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: jacksonville Vehicle: 07 TR vf39ed RomRaided!!!! Oh Yeah!!	The List: Code: CAMTuning = www.camtuning.com - 06rexwagon's Internet Tunes :) this one is pretty good +1

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Benchmark Tuning Former Vendor Member#: 154444 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: 9120 Medill Ave Vehicle: 2008 08 STi, Typhoon 06 STi, 847-960-8676	I wanted to stop by this thread to post up some information and answer any questions for those looking for internet tuning with me. The tuning I offer for cars up to stage 2 is $60, once you get into the more involved set-ups (above stage 2) or more modified cars you would have to PM me a list of mods. From there I would set-up the price for those cars according how modified the car is, as well as what needs to be done. Matt- 555 Motorsports

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maveric7911 Scooby Newbie Member#: 122312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Crofton, Maryland Vehicle: 2004 STI Blue	I have an opposite experience with dom. Not only did I get fantastic support "received 3 revisions in 2 hours" but the tune was top notch. I can not think of anyone who I would rather have an internet tune from. As he has stated before with internet tuning "especially from a high end tuner" one has to have patients or pay for special attention.

03-03-2008, 04:52 PM	#38
HOLLYW00D Scooby Newbie Member#: 44954 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austin, TX	the "special attention" check box is missing and price not stated, maybe that could be incorporated.

03-03-2008, 05:04 PM	#39
maveric7911 Scooby Newbie Member#: 122312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Crofton, Maryland Vehicle: 2004 STI Blue	I believe its stated properly on his website what the expected turn around time is. Otherwise I would think one would ask if they wanted a special session outside of what was stated.

03-03-2008, 05:53 PM	#40
Zumble Scooby Specialist Member#: 34860 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NY Vehicle: 2005 Forester CGM	Not looking at the AFR Learning Column and AFR Immediate Column and the WB/AFR column in the logs is a pretty big screw up. I'll bet it won't happen again though. The website does say 1-5 days. But.. I think if someone has a injector issue that renders the car unusable, I think 1 day turn around is expected. I don't want to hear anyone saying he had 5 days to correct that problem. But then again, he didn't catch the problem in the logs sent to him. The problem was presented 3 times in the logs. But that brings us back to point one. He probably won't make that mistake again. Hollywood said is peace and found a tuner he's happy with. Back to our usual programming.

03-03-2008, 06:02 PM	#41
wrxsti.l Scooby Specialist Member#: 156973 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: International Location: Adelaide, Australia Vehicle: 2002 ADM WRX STi STi Black/Blue	What is funny is that people EXPECT "special treatment" and a faster turn around then stated on his website and only pay $60 lol. If you want a quick turn around because you need your car on the road, then I suspect an Internet tune (with its associated delays) is not for you. I need to point this out and make it clear: If you need an instant (in a day) tune, go to your local tuner and pay the money for it. If you are happy to wait the turn around time stated for your emailed rom to be modified and save a few hundred $ in the process, then Internet tunes are for you.

03-03-2008, 07:13 PM	#43
Freon Scooby Specialist Member#: 88322 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Indianapolis, IN Vehicle: 2009 BMW 135i	I would recommend against all "internet" tunes. I don't think counting on the customer to alleviate all mechanical problems plus diligently log their car is at all realistic. Seriously, people who need tuning generally do NOT know what they're doing at all. I think very few do. Rather than kid yourself into thinking you're one of the few who knows just enough to gather the data and troubleshoot local problems but not tune, just skip the whole ordeal and find someone local who knows what they're doing.

03-03-2008, 07:49 PM	#44
maveric7911 Scooby Newbie Member#: 122312 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Crofton, Maryland Vehicle: 2004 STI Blue	As much as I rarely disagree with you on things freon I would have to in this case. There are a very large amount of situations that do not allow for "local shop tuning". Anything from not have any local shops within 100 miles that can do the tuning on open source to there are some tuners who do a very good job at getting you dialed closely in with proper logging. Its all about patients as you are needing to provide logs and be patient with your tuner. However I will agree with you that it is very important to know what to look for during this process to ensure your not destroying your car. Is it perfect no. Is its well better then acceptable yes.

03-03-2008, 11:13 PM	#46
alex_s817 Scooby Newbie Member#: 158754 Join Date: Sep 2007	ill vouch for Dom he has been helping me out for a few months now. i wrecked my car halfway through the tune, and he has been good to help me finish getting it running perfect even though my months worth was quite a while back. i have gotten over 3 revisions in less than an hour as well. not to mention if you have any problems with the car, he will talk to you online or on the phone and try to get things resolved. he gets my vote for internet tuning

03-03-2008, 11:14 PM	#47
JMS77 Scooby Newbie Member#: 136833 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NJ Precision Tuning	pm sent. THX

03-04-2008, 10:46 AM	#50
06rexwagon Scooby Specialist Member#: 114730 Join Date: May 2006 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited Wag	I'm going to stick my neck out for Dominic. I've never dealt with him or talked to him but by reading his posts you can tell he knows where the mistake was made. That being said, this thread is supposed to be about who offers internet tunes. If you want to start another thread to lynch Dom in that's up to you.