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Old 01-29-2008, 07:16 PM   #1
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I am going to order a CSS FMIC very soon. I want to do it myself so i dont have to pay for all the labor. Im going to run it with stock td04 for a few weeks until i get my turbo installed professionally with the tune. Has anyone done this to stock td04?
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:43 PM   #2
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Im sure lots of people have done it on stock turbo. What kinda turbo are you gonna be replacing the stock TD04 with?
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:55 PM   #3
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either 18g with meth or 20g with bigger injectors. Will it idle normally and still drive normally without any tune for a couple of weeks?
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:00 PM   #4
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Why get the turbo installed professionally if you're going to install the FMIC yourself? Don't fear the fluids! Turbos are a joke!
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:07 PM   #5
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i would like to save money on the turbo installation but i dont want to mess anything up. the front mount intercooler is easy. im not too sure bout the turbo. plus i cant just put the turbo and fmic on, and wait couple weeks til tune? thats even worse. unless they send me a map i can run for couple of weeks. plus i might go to a tuner that is 1 hour away. hes the only that does OpenSource tune, i think.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:12 PM   #6
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It's not the install - it's the tune. Sure he could spend an extra hour or two while he's in there to do the turbo, but then you have to get a base tune to get you to the tuner without everything blowing up. You'd hope the tuner could send a safe map to get him there - but sometimes it's just safer to pay the $100 in labor to save $2K in motor.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:48 PM   #7
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Overkill.
The stock TMIC is way efficient enough for the TD04.
Also the throttle response with the FMIC due to the small size of the TD04
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:56 PM   #8
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i know that. im just asking if it would be okay to run for a couple weeks before i get the tune. i just want answers from the people who have done this and have no problems starting or driving the car for a certain amount of time.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:30 AM   #9
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I have personally seen 3 diff people do the exact same thing you want to do with no problems at all. Just be easy on the car and as long as everything is tight and you have no leaks the car doesnt really feel THAT bad but its def laggy. When I was testing the kit I tried it with the following turbos...td04,vf30,vf39,16g,18g,and 20g. Anything under a 16g is iffy. I will tell a customer this up front even if it cost me the sale...BUT for you since you are only doing it temp you will be ok.Just be prepared to have everything on the road blow your doors off in the meantime.
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Old 01-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #10
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has anyone ever felt the stock 07wrx tmic after even regular highway driving????? Its ridiculous.


anyways, it will be fine with the fmic and the td04 setup.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:06 AM   #11
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has anyone ever felt the stock 07wrx tmic after even regular highway driving????? Its ridiculous.


anyways, it will be fine with the fmic and the td04 setup.
the dimensions are similar to a ram truck power steering cooler lol
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Old 01-31-2008, 11:30 AM   #12
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it will run fine, you probably wont even notice a difference on the 2.5, and if you do it will be very small
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:08 PM   #13
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thats good. i wont go into boost for sure until tune with a new turbo. well, for sure it'll be little more laggy but will it lose a couple of hp?
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It's never a bad idea to go FMIC. Even though TMIC will work FMIC work more effieciently. Turbo-lag? You will never be able to get rid of it ever! Aslong as you don't want your turbo being a combustion chamber.
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It's never a bad idea to go FMIC. Even though TMIC will work FMIC work more effieciently. Turbo-lag? You will never be able to get rid of it ever! Aslong as you don't want your turbo being a combustion chamber.
Thats not a true statement at all. It depends on what you do where you live is it worth it? Spearco 1000CFM TMIC as a DD and ass loads of boost no lag, street driven on SZ55. My tuner prefers to tune on the TMIC GT30, SZ55, 20G If Im never going to run race gas or past 25psi what good is a FMIC going to get me? I can move more air faster on the SPearco setup.
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TMIC heating up while you wait in the staging lanes at the drag strip...
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:34 PM   #17
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It's not the flow. It's the heat that's a problem. Have you ever opened your hood on a hot summer day? It can burn your hand. Even if you live in the cold, a TMIC could be just a tad warm. But a FMIC will be freezing cold.

I mean why would you pay $1,000 for a big TMIC core when you could spend $400-600 on the CSS FMIC?
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^^^
It'll be a preference matter if so.
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Old 01-31-2008, 09:42 PM   #19
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TMIC heating up while you wait in the staging lanes at the drag strip...
we know all about that dont we?

130F intake temps ftl.
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Im running a fmic and reversed manifold on a tdo4. Youll be just fine.
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thanks for the input. theres a lot of useful info that you guys have given. ill keep you guys posted to see what happens..
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