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Old 01-29-2008, 09:57 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if the 6 speed STi shift knob works on the Five speed shifter? I wanna buy the shift knob from Agency Power but i like the STi design more than the five speed design that they have. Just wanna know if it will work?
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:00 PM   #2
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no. Its a different thread size.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:01 PM   #3
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:11 PM   #4
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Agency Power? Please don't.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:21 PM   #5
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Agency Power? Please don't.
truth!

actually the thread pitch is the same you can run a 6 speed knob on the 5 speed shifters. but the boot will not stay up. you cannot do it the other way around tho.

search around about Vivid/ AP

There are alot of reputable manufactures and dealers that wont screw you.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:26 PM   #6
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also if it has the shift pattern in it, id never recommend it... you dont know when someone else gets in to drive and hello right into reverse ha
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:28 PM   #7
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also if it has the shift pattern in it, id never recommend it... you dont know when someone else gets in to drive and hello right into reverse ha
Except you can't go from fifth to reverse...
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:31 PM   #8
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:32 AM   #9
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yeah I dont really care if the shift boot stays up, i like the look of the 6 speed shift knob better than the 5. The 6 is like a ball shifter, apposed to the goofy flat top that the 5 speed has. Maybe im just being picky and difficult.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:39 AM   #10
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yeah I dont really care if the shift boot stays up, i like the look of the 6 speed shift knob better than the 5. The 6 is like a ball shifter, apposed to the goofy flat top that the 5 speed has. Maybe im just being picky and difficult.
If you want a ball shifter for the 5 speed, what about the Momo shift knob? I've got it, and I love it, and tons of other people around here have it too.

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Old 01-30-2008, 09:44 AM   #11
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no. Its a different thread size.
Wrong. They are both 12mm. I have an STi knob that I just screwed on to my WRX shifter. You won't have the lip that holds the boot up, but you can fix that with a washer and a locknut under the boot.
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Old 01-30-2008, 09:46 AM   #12
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I personally like the way the STi knobs look with the leather and the sticthing, so I'm making a new cap for it that has a 5spd pattern on it.

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Old 01-30-2008, 09:56 AM   #13
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oh boy....

6 speed subaru shift knob will thread just fine in a 5mt
key is working out how to make the boot stay in place

I have a 6MT knob in my RS, no issues what so ever
(I've got a bushing fitted under boot to hold it in place)

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Old 01-30-2008, 11:21 AM   #14
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I personally like the way the STi knobs look with teh leather and teh sticthing, so I'm making a new cap for it that has a 5spd pattern on it.
Hi. I'm thinking of doing the same thing. Iis there any way that the stock cap can be removed, cleared and reattached with some other design underneath?

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Old 01-30-2008, 11:25 AM   #15
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You have to push the cap out from the inside of the knob. then from teh back of the cap you can push off the shift pattern. The you have the sand the back of the shift pattern to get the black off. The pattern wont come off the plastic because the letters are sunken into the plastic. I'll be machining a new cap for mine so that it has the 5spd pattern on it. I also have my 6sp pattern that now has a red background instead of a black background.
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Old 01-30-2008, 11:29 AM   #16
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Hit up the guys at wclathewerks. they do some kickass custom knobs. He's a great guy to deal with.

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:26 PM   #17
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You have to push the cap out from the inside of the knob. then from teh back of the cap you can push off the shift pattern. The you have the sand the back of the shift pattern to get the black off. The pattern wont come off the plastic because the letters are sunken into the plastic. I'll be machining a new cap for mine so that it has the 5spd pattern on it. I also have my 6sp pattern that now has a red background instead of a black background.
Ah, the shift pattern did look as though they were sunken into the plastic--thanks for confirming this. Please post updates on the new cap you are working on.

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Old 01-30-2008, 12:56 PM   #18
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Hopefully I will have it done tonight
Right now it looks like:

and here's the red pattern:
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:38 PM   #19
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If you want a ball shifter for the 5 speed, what about the Momo shift knob? I've got it, and I love it, and tons of other people around here have it too.

Momo's look great. My only problem with them (non subi) is that they are held of with those little allen screws. That just doesn't cut it. I have a terrible habit of holding onto my shifter for dear life when going around corners fast (need better seats). I would hate for that to come flying off. Plus they wear out after a while and cease to stay tight...and some of them will screw up your threading.

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Old 01-30-2008, 03:43 PM   #20
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Momo's look great. My only problem with them (non subi) is that they are held of with those little allen screws. That just doesn't cut it. I have a terrible habit of holding onto my shifter for dear life when going around corners fast (need better seats). I would hate for that to come flying off. Plus they wear out after a while and cease to stay tight...and some of them will screw up your threading.
be careful with constantly holding or resting your hand on your shifter while not shifting, that can lead to advanced syncro damage.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:51 PM   #21
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subaru manual also suggests that you don't rest your hand on your shifter when you're not shifting
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:53 PM   #22
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^^^and around turns would suck to pull that outta gear at wot
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:55 PM   #23
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be careful with constantly holding or resting your hand on your shifter while not shifting, that can lead to advanced syncro damage.
I only do it if I am shifting before or after a hard turn, otherwise during normal driving my hand is never there unless shifting.

I'm sure it's not a good idea to depend on the shifter for support in any situation though. I'll try to practing throwing my hand back on the wheel asap after shifting through a hard turn.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:58 PM   #24
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^^^and around turns would suck to pull that outta gear at wot
I think its usally second gear that I do it, nice close and convienient. But yea I'll knock it off.

I don't do the resting thing though, that looks to lame, like Action Man ready to shift at the drop of hat.


But yea as far as the topic goes, its good to know that Sti knobs are the same thread. Just not crazy about those Universal non threaded knobs.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:47 PM   #25
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Momo's look great. My only problem with them (non subi) is that they are held of with those little allen screws. That just doesn't cut it. I have a terrible habit of holding onto my shifter for dear life when going around corners fast (need better seats). I would hate for that to come flying off. Plus they wear out after a while and cease to stay tight...and some of them will screw up your threading.

hey wrx_wgn, you said that you dont like aftermarket shift knobs because they have to use allen screws to put on. i have to agree with you but that momo shift knob in the picture is specifically made for subaru's. that particular shift knob does not require allen screws, it screws directly onto impreza's and legacy's shifters, i have the same exact one. they make 2 versions of that shift knob, 1 that requires allen screws and another 1 made for subarus. if you look look real close to the picture it says subaru under the momo symbol. the subaru momo knob also has the lip so you can attach the shift boot onto. it looks factory. I just wanted to let you.
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