Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Thursday July 10, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC General > Warranty Issues & SOA Problems

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2002, 12:30 AM   #1
Jung918
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 10969
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Orange County
Default WRX tranny

Well my tranny is really starting to piss me off. I stop and when i start to go again i press in the cluth and try to put the gear into first. It just doesn't go in smooth... Other times i have to push it in kindof hard. Anyways, I cut my shifter and put on a aftermarket shifter. Do you think that the dealership will try to void my warranty because of that?
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Jung918 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2002, 02:00 AM   #2
ANZAC_1915
Moderator
 
Member#: 456
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region: NWIC
Location: Redmond, WA, USA
Vehicle:
2008 Forester XT
Steel Gray Metallic

Default

The funny thing is, I had this rattle I thought was the accessory drive belt.

I figured out Sunday it is my transmission. With the clutch out, in neutral, you hear this "rattle tap tap rattle" -- much louder than my previous WRX and this car when new.

I'm at 4,000 miles or so.

Glenn
ANZAC_1915 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2002, 05:45 PM   #3
NightmareOnSubySt
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 1352
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Honolulu
Vehicle:
2005 Forester XT
black

Default Re: WRX tranny

Quote:
Originally posted by Jung918
Anyways, I cut my shifter and put on a aftermarket shifter. Do you think that the dealership will try to void my warranty because of that?
Did you cut the shaft and just replace the knob? If so, I don't think they will...it's still the stock shift mechanism and bushings. Right?
NightmareOnSubySt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2002, 06:03 PM   #4
Jung918
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 10969
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Orange County
Default

Well i am on a tight budget so i got a hacksaw and simply just cut the shifter a little less then half and then i jb weded a shift knob on. I tried using the three screws on teh knob but it kept comming lose. Do you think the ball at the bottom of the shift knob will come out of the shift boot? They could say that i modified my shifter and not fix it...?
Jung918 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2002, 11:40 PM   #5
Curtis
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12620
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Des Allemands, La
Vehicle:
2004 STi
Aspen White

Default Re: WRX tranny

[quote]Originally posted by Jung918
[b]Well my tranny is really starting to piss me off. I stop and when i start to go again i press in the cluth and try to put the gear into first. It just doesn't go in smooth... Other times i have to push it in kindof hard.

Have the service department put your car on a lift and pull back the dust boot on the clutch slave cylinder. If it's leaking, then your slave cylinder needs to be replaced under warranty.

My WRX started exhibiting the same symptoms that you described, about 1 week ago. The problem is intermittent, however, will become terminal, leaving you stranded.

Anyway, if I understand your problem, it is not the tranny, but the hydraulic clutch slave cylinder. When it doesn't maintain sufficient pressure it won't fully disengage the clutch, resulting in the push- harder-grrr-clunk-neutral-to-first gear change.

I wonder if we are beginning to see a trend. Anyone else have this problem?

Good luck,

Curtis
Curtis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2002, 09:03 PM   #6
ccook
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12716
Join Date: Nov 2001
Vehicle:
2002 impreza wrx
sedona red

Default My 2 cents

I started a thread about the exact same issue a couple of months ago. Well, a month in the shop and a long ordeal later, I have a rebuilt transmission.
I am starting to get really worried about the durability of this transmission.
I would take it to the dealer and have the transmission checked out asap.
ccook is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2002, 01:03 AM   #7
ChuckK
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 9356
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Golden, CO
Vehicle:
2002 WRX 5-spd Wagon
Silver

Default

I would guess that at least some of the problems people are having with the WRX manual transmission are due to inexperience. The first car I ever bought (in 1972) was a 1970 BMW 2002. (This was before BMWs became expensive. It was a good deal not unlike today's WRX.) I promptly blew out the 2nd gear synchro by shifting too fast. Some cars do have weak synchronizers. To shift them, you need to match the engine speed properly when shifting. If you're going 20 mph in first gear, that's probably an engine speed of 4,000 rpm or so. If you try to downshift to first with the engine speed at idle, it won't go. You need to goose the gas and and get the engine speed up. Double clutching (shifting into neutral first and giving it gas while in neutral) also helps. In one of these threads someone said you never downshift to first. I agree, in general, but with the WRX, if you want to keep the revs up to keep the turbo involved around very sharp, low-speed corners, you may want to hit first gear. I notice on my car that the reverse synchro is either weak or nonexistent. Sometimes I have to touch second gear first to engage it. Also, I notice that I have to push a bit to get it into first gear after I start it up on cold mornings. These are minor inconveniences.
ChuckK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2002, 03:52 AM   #8
codger
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 13486
Join Date: Dec 2001
Chapter/Region: W. Canada
Location: Calgary
Vehicle:
06 Legacy GT wagon
Black

Default

Quote:
These are minor inconveniences.
These are the tip of the iceberg.

Last edited by codger; 02-09-2002 at 04:01 AM.
codger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2002, 10:43 PM   #9
Curtis
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 12620
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Des Allemands, La
Vehicle:
2004 STi
Aspen White

Default Re: Re: WRX tranny-UPDATE

Anyway, if I understand your problem, it is not the tranny, but the hydraulic clutch slave cylinder. When it doesn't maintain sufficient pressure it won't fully disengage the clutch, resulting in the push- harder-grrr-clunk-neutral-to-first gear change.

I wonder if we are beginning to see a trend. Anyone else have this problem?

Good luck,

Curtis [/b][/quote]

Well, after further review, I believe my first diagnosis of having a clutch slave cylinder problem versus a tranny problem was incorrect. The dealer replaced the slave cylinder today, and it still grinds going inot first from neutral at a dead stop. Again, it is intermittent. The tech said if the problem persist, he will call subaru tech for help, saying that the tranny may need to be disassembled/inspected/repaired.

Oh boy, here we go.

Curtis
Curtis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2002, 11:22 PM   #10
kenchan
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 15106
Join Date: Feb 2002
Default

you guys remebering to double clutch into 1st? i had that problem, but i wasn't sure if it was the car or just my MT shifting... after learning to double clutch into 1st, it goes in flawlessly every time now. im sure you guys know already, but do this at each stop sign or whereever you need to get it into 1st gear.

coming to a stop, you're in 3rd
1. brake
2. step on clutch
3. shift into neutral
4. release clutch
5. heeltoe to blip throttle
6. step on clutch
7. shift into 1st.

practice this a few days and it'll be second nature... if you still have problems shifting into 1st, then it might be your car.

kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2002, 02:25 AM   #11
Jung918
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 10969
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Orange County
Default

Sometimes i just do not want to bother with first gear so i just go with second gear. I haven't been able to get to the dealer yet. It is mardi gras tommorrow so everything will be closed. Wierd thing is sometimes I think it is the brakes. When i press it i hear this wierd klunk sound. I heard it this morning going out my drive way. The weather is somewhat chillie. maybe that has something to do with it.
Jung918 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2002, 03:28 PM   #12
duckboy
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 6243
Join Date: May 2001
Location: torrance, ca
Vehicle:
2004 XT
hi-yo silver

Default sticky tranny

have you all tried putting in new tranny fluid? preferrably, synthetic?

i put NEO 75W-90 RHD in at 7k mi and it made a world of difference. i can get into first a whole lot easier now and the synchros work a ton better when shifting up or down at any gear. plus i have the kartboy shifter and things are still slick even when cold.

Motul is another good one and should be looked into. which exact model of Motul, i don't know. do a search.

i've heard Redline MTL doesn't work well at all. i suggest you avoid it.

i've suggested the NEO to other friends here and they can't believe how much better the shifting is, even when things are cold.

duckboy
duckboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2002, 03:52 PM   #13
WRX Pilot
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3487
Join Date: Jan 2001
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: 39.544733 104.944625
Unhappy Dbl Clutching is for non synch'd trannies!

You should NEVER need to double clutch a synchd tranny. I have this problem too and it is a warranty issue with Subaru along with other tranny issues. Im in the process of getting them dealt with right now. Ill keep you posted.
WRX Pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2002, 04:14 PM   #14
kenchan
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 15106
Join Date: Feb 2002
Default

wrx- oh is that so? then hell, i need to get mine checked too. hehehe. wrong face..
kenchan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2002, 02:30 AM   #15
WRX Pilot
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3487
Join Date: Jan 2001
Chapter/Region: RMIC
Location: 39.544733 104.944625
Cool Feel the LOVE.......

Yes, that is so. And I have gone down this road before on this board. Im not going to argue my point. Everyone is welcome to drive their own car their own way. I will say this though. I know what Im talking about. With all my years of experience as a professional, commercial driver and years of involvement in motorsports, I have never seen a particular group who try to make there driving experience so difficult by adapting techniques that dont apply to what they are trying to achieve. These cars are great fun and super easy to drive! Why not keep it that way simple and fun.
WRX Pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2002, 12:03 PM   #16
New Blue 02
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 13362
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: West Bumble, NJ
Vehicle:
2002 Impreza WRX
WRC Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckK
I notice on my car that the reverse synchro is either weak or nonexistent.
reverse is a non-synchro'ed, straight cut gear.
New Blue 02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2002, 01:50 PM   #17
gtguy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2184
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Highland Park, Ill., USA
Vehicle:
2005 Legacy GT wagon
Platinum Silver Metallic

Default

You guys are making me paranoid. Almost 16K miles, and the shift lever slides into first every time, no double-clutching or anything, and no problems. Ditto for reverse. No odd noises or anything, just Stygian silence as it operates.

But when I'm driving and shifting, I always have my ear out for odd sounds that might signal something,or any feel difference. Still like buttuh, though.

Kevin
gtguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2002, 10:24 PM   #18
Shinji N
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 3987
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Vehicle:
1999 Miata
Black

Default

Quote:
Originally posted by gtguy
You guys are making me paranoid. Almost 16K miles, and the shift lever slides into first every time, no double-clutching or anything, and no problems. Ditto for reverse. No odd noises or anything, just Stygian silence as it operates.

But when I'm driving and shifting, I always have my ear out for odd sounds that might signal something,or any feel difference. Still like buttuh, though.

Kevin
So what car do you drive?
Shinji N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2002, 10:28 PM   #19
gtguy
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 2184
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Highland Park, Ill., USA
Vehicle:
2005 Legacy GT wagon
Platinum Silver Metallic

Default

Silver WRX wagon, Shinji, with almost 16,000 on the clock.

Kevin
gtguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2003 WRX tranny and 2004 WRX tranny differences AzNStiImpreza Subaru Conversions 8 07-19-2005 12:16 PM
2002 WRX Tranny and Tranny parts Brent69 Private 'For Sale' Classifieds 5 03-15-2004 06:11 PM
how can i tell an sti tranny mount from a stock wrx tranny mount? blackie Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain 11 01-20-2004 08:15 AM
WRX tranny vs. 2.5RS tranny psaeko Transmission (AT/MT) & Driveline 10 07-31-2002 02:41 PM
WRX Tranny vs 2.5RS Tranny Timmay Factory 2.0L Turbo Powertrain 9 05-14-2001 11:21 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.