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Old 07-06-2009, 10:08 PM   #651
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obviously that depends on the original rom code... you do know they're not all the same, right?

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Old 07-27-2009, 12:30 PM   #652
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I need help with installing this lc patch onto my map. I have downloaded and extract everything into my tuning folder. then i have taken the xml and copied them over in the right fashion and the right rom. i downloaded both a4sgd10c and a4sge01c since i have an 02wrx ecu. i have tried everything and once i put them on my map i get the unpatched numbers in the settings. Now when i click PATCH when exactly do i do this? when i do it i get a black windows box that opens and closes almost instantly and it does have white writing but closes too fast for me to see. also if i click the "tinypatcher" it comes up with another black screen with whole bunch of things but it says Error: invalid command line arguments. then press any key to close.


I know i am doing something wrong but i cannot pin point what it is. Any help will be greatly appreciated i need this for the wrx evo shoot out in a couple weeks
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:35 PM   #653
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I need help with installing this lc patch onto my map. I have downloaded and extract everything into my tuning folder. then i have taken the xml and copied them over in the right fashion and the right rom. i downloaded both a4sgd10c and a4sge01c since i have an 02wrx ecu. i have tried everything and once i put them on my map i get the unpatched numbers in the settings. Now when i click PATCH when exactly do i do this? when i do it i get a black windows box that opens and closes almost instantly and it does have white writing but closes too fast for me to see. also if i click the "tinypatcher" it comes up with another black screen with whole bunch of things but it says Error: invalid command line arguments. then press any key to close.


I know i am doing something wrong but i cannot pin point what it is. Any help will be greatly appreciated i need this for the wrx evo shoot out in a couple weeks
Run it in the windows command window
Start > Run
"cmd"
It will open the window
Navigate to the directory where your patch is using "cd" to change directory and "ls" to list the contents
Run the patch once you're there, you'll be able to see the output without the window closing on you
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:43 PM   #654
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"cd"? "ls"? sorry got you till then
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Old 07-27-2009, 12:45 PM   #655
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never mind got it
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:57 PM   #656
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i knew you would say that

in progress USDM patches:
A4SGE01C
A4TC400L
A4TF520F
A4TF800F
these will cover anyone that wants to use the most recent version for each model year

Patches for older/outdated version will still be created upon request
98 JDM wrx- EJ207
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #657
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98 JDM is not supported by ECUFlash or RomRaider - so there won't be a patch for it.
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:20 AM   #658
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patches released

A4TE002B JDM STi MY03
A4TE002C JDM STi MY03

http://tinywrex.wordpress.com
http://tinywrex.x10hosting.com/onlin...ewCat&catId=12

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Old 09-06-2009, 07:51 AM   #659
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Can somebody just patch my hex file for me?
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Old 09-06-2009, 08:46 AM   #660
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email me your ROM and I'll patch it for you if you like - rexsti.l@gmail.com


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Old 09-06-2009, 01:36 PM   #661
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sent the email.

thanks marlon
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Old 09-12-2009, 04:33 PM   #662
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All set up on my 08 - sounds sick when trialing the shift point in my garage...lol
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:12 AM   #663
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sent the email.

thanks marlon
Done mate - check your email

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Edit: Just make sure to do a TEST WRITE first before writing to your ECU properly.
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Old 09-14-2009, 07:53 PM   #664
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Is it possible to disable boost limit and RPM limit when WOT in 2nd gear?

If so why do people run patches that aren't from proven safe sources? I wouldn't let my kids eat home-made candies why would I feed my car programming I can't certify?
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:04 PM   #665
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Is it possible to disable boost limit and RPM limit when WOT in 2nd gear?
Anything is possible, but why?

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If so why do people run patches that aren't from proven safe sources?
If so? What does disabling 2nd gear boost and rpm limits have to do with launch control? How will that benefit anything? You are not making any sense.

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I wouldn't let my kids eat home-made candies why would I feed my car programming I can't certify?
Unless you are a programmer and know how to reverse engineer then you haven't certified anything in your life - that includes ALL the software you run on your PC at home, ALL the software used EVERYWHERE in the world to control pretty much EVERY processor-based electronic device, as well as ANY tuning software from ANY manufacturer that can be run on your car.

So your point is moot.

All anyone can do is hope that the manufacturer of any tuning software and/or patches for our cars have tested it properly before making it available to the public.

And from all accounts this is true for the LC and FFS patches available from tinywrex.

So please go troll somewhere else.

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Old 09-14-2009, 10:00 PM   #666
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Oh man, you must be on a Mac.. There's software certificates a plenty in MS land. I'm not saying it's 100% safe, but lets just say I don't trust anything I didn't get from a credible source and I sure as hell never torrent or do anything stupid on my main PC which is on another subnet from my "risky" computers.

I can't guarantee a wrapped kit-kat mini isn't tampered with but at least I can't say I'm a freaking idiot when my kid jumps off a cliff after eating a home-made rice-crispy laced with LSD.

Far fetched or not, please consider this a "heads up".
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Old 09-14-2009, 11:07 PM   #667
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Oh man, you must be on a Mac.. There's software certificates a plenty in MS land.
lol, so you'll trust any software vendor that pays for a MS certificate lol. I have seen just as many dodgy programs WITH certificates to know that the MS certification = didly squat.

In the real world, the MS certification is only there so MS can make a few extra dollars from software vendors, or they will flag the software as potentially malicous. ie. extortion at its best from a monopolistic company

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I'm not saying it's 100% safe, but lets just say I don't trust anything I didn't get from a credible source and I sure as hell never torrent or do anything stupid on my main PC which is on another subnet from my "risky" computers.
It's good to know you class a software vendor as credible because they pay for an MS certificate

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I can't guarantee a wrapped kit-kat mini isn't tampered with but at least I can't say I'm a freaking idiot when my kid jumps off a cliff after eating a home-made rice-crispy laced with LSD.

Far fetched or not, please consider this a "heads up".
Dude, what is your point? Your baseless accusations of suspect software is unfounded and not welcome.

If you have something to say and evidence to back it up, then say it and post the evidence, otherwise go troll the off-topic forum if you are bored.

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Old 09-15-2009, 12:15 AM   #668
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Seriously, "baseless" is right, when you wrote that didn't you stop to consider I'm not even talking about you, I'm talking about people willing to try any old edit? Please, consider it, you were right with the "baseless" part.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:43 AM   #669
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Dude, you are the one who came in here and made the post suggesting something wrong with the LC patch and that it isn't "proven" or from a :safe source" - not me.

Like I said, post evidence that supports your comments otherwise go troll somewhere else or risk a timeout mate.

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Old 09-15-2009, 04:02 AM   #670
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Seriously, "baseless" is right, when you wrote that didn't you stop to consider I'm not even talking about you, I'm talking about people willing to try any old edit?
Let's review:
We're 650+ posts into this thread.
Someone asked for help with patching.
Leslie provided such help, and announced that someone's patch is ready.
In the very next post, you talk **** about the unproven / unsafe sources of patched ROMs.
And you think Leslie is "baseless" for thinking you might be talking about him?
Are you retarded?
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:56 AM   #671
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Can we get this back on topic?

Do people use different values for the rev limit retard when they change the size of the turbo? I was getting 10-11 psi with a TD04, but is it possible to get more than 6 psi with a larger turbo? I typically set the rev limit at 4500.

Also, does anyone have a copy of the 16 bit ffs floating around?
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:04 AM   #672
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Can we get this back on topic?
agreed

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Do people use different values for the rev limit retard when they change the size of the turbo? I was getting 10-11 psi with a TD04, but is it possible to get more than 6 psi with a larger turbo? I typically set the rev limit at 4500.
I find that with my car and turbo (2.0L with direct-fit GT3076R) the higher you set the LC and the closer together your rev limit settings are the more boost you can build.

I've recently tried adding more fuel and less timing in the area of the fuel and timing tables where LC is active, but results are not noticable so far.

Ideally, it would be great if the srock rev limiter's timing retard function worked while using LC, because you could then retard timing quite a bit to get much better anti-lag effects from it


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Also, does anyone have a copy of the 16 bit ffs floating around?
No FFS for 16bit ECUs unfortunately

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Old 09-15-2009, 07:14 PM   #673
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No I think people are taking the suggestion "you get what you pay for" a bit too personally.

I've been meaning to post a "WTF?" sooner but never got around to it. Does anyone need to take it personally? No, not at all because it's never been leveled at anyone personally regardless of what recent discussion reminded me to speak up. "Baseless" is "Baseless" .. think about it.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:35 PM   #674
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Is it possible to disable boost limit and RPM limit when WOT in 2nd gear?

If so why do people run patches that aren't from proven safe sources? I wouldn't let my kids eat home-made candies why would I feed my car programming I can't certify?
I'm sorry, but do you have ANY programming experience? Similarly, do you have any idea how the ECU operates? Your post is, frankly, one of the most ridiculous things I've read here. What exactly are you afraid of this patch doing? It's impossible to alter the ECU's logic with the ROM, the ROM simply holds tables that the ECU references to perform its normal duty. Take the injector scaling, the ECU knows the current engine load and target AFR, it uses those to calculate how much fuel it needs to add. Then it goes to the injector scaling to see how long it needs to open the injectors for to add this much fuel, it opens the injectors, and continues on with its business. The ONLY thing you can change in this process is the injector scalar, the relationship between the amount of time an injector is open and the amount of fuel it adds. The rest of the ECU's logic, the entire brains behind this process, cannot be modified, all you can do is change a few of the values it uses to make its calculations.

LC and FFS are no different, the ECU still behaves the exact same way as stock, it simply uses 2 different rev-limiters depending on whether or not the clutch is pressed in (FFS), or whether or not your speed is below some threshold (LC). That's it, that's all it does, and that's all it's capable of doing because the logic in the ECU CANNOT BE CHANGED, all you're changing, in this case, is the rev-limiter RPM.

So I ask again, what are you afraid of this patch doing? More importantly, what are you afraid of this patch doing that you can't see with 5 seconds of quick testing? It's impossible to put any kind of virus or time bomb in the patch, because it's impossible to change the way the ECU operates, that's not the part of the ECU that the ROM is reading from or writing to.

It's also pretty laughable that you think anything made by MS, or even anything certified by MS, is safe...
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Why ask me my background when my first post was asking "is it possible to make a bad rom"?

Good to see some people posting answers, thanks for the read.
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