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Old 08-10-2011, 05:04 PM   #251
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That's a novel way to apply it through the holes...Aaron is always thinking outside the box!
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Old 08-10-2011, 05:12 PM   #252
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How much would say this cost you to outfit this immense sound blanket?
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:35 PM   #253
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i've been looking for a solution like this for the trunk!! thank you for the idea!

any special tips tricks, or just pour it in there? i'm planning to make a MDF/fiberglass panel to mount on there as well for a screen/other stuff and to help further deaden the trunk against my 2 12"s lol
The trick was the chunk of wire to "push" it through...

AFA "other" stuff, it's not done...

CLD/CCF and maybe some MLV is next..
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:37 PM   #254
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How much would say this cost you to outfit this immense sound blanket?
I shutter to think....

I've lost count after the 3rd or 4th bulk pack of CLD...
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Old 08-10-2011, 06:37 PM   #255
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That's a novel way to apply it through the holes...Aaron is always thinking outside the box!
Was really the only way... too thick to just pour...
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Old 08-10-2011, 10:52 PM   #256
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Are you ever going to realize the fruits of all this cost/labor?
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Old 08-11-2011, 01:12 AM   #257
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I had sound recently... took it down for some changes.. lol... it'll be running again by next weekend...

I'll be in Chicago at WekFest...
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:39 PM   #258
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wow.. that's a lot of wasted cld mat.. and way overkill on the spray/sludgy ****. but hey, your project your money your rules
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Old 08-12-2011, 08:07 PM   #259
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wow.. that's a lot of wasted cld mat.. and way overkill on the spray/sludgy ****. but hey, your project your money your rules
Really... how you figure?

Overkill? on what?



Do you even know what's happening? had a clue or taken the time to look at things before you decided to run your mouth?


If you had, you'd know I got every bit of Second Skin product, barring the Spectrum I JUST used, for nothing...


even then you STILL don't know what you're talking about... or if you DO, your not letting on, cause I've never seen you here before...
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Old 08-12-2011, 11:46 PM   #260
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we're good

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Old 08-13-2011, 12:58 AM   #261
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Lol ok I gave you a chance to be civil and accept what I said. Yes it is massive overkill. 25% coverage of cld tile is enough to kill any noticeable interference you're experiencing with vibration. Your "overkill" which is ccf is well placed. Yes I'm new to this forum but a regular on audio forums. And I hope you got your product for nothing, because secondskin is a second tier company who's main goal is to get you to spend as much as possible. You got sucked into the bull**** ant spews and bought spectrum. Rubberized undercoating does the cld job better than that **** and won't cause the rust under it like your water based spectrum would. What's my experience? $150 wasted at ss. He ripped off cld tiles from don at sds and marketed them as an invention he came up with. I spent another $150 at sds and got a guaranteed better sound dampened vehicle than you have for three times the money.

I think we squashed this... Thanks..

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Old 08-13-2011, 01:00 AM   #262
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Problems been solved I think... sorry...

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Old 08-13-2011, 01:22 AM   #263
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I still think RAAMMAT is the best value for deadener. It seems right now the biggest drawback is Rick doesn't offer any kind of MLV. I ordered some of this stuff to check it out, it is super thick as I got the 1/4" stuff.

Aaron, what would you do with this if you had a roll of it laying around? Lay it on the floor?

http://www.usafoam.com/closedcellfoam/volara.html
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Old 08-13-2011, 03:16 AM   #264
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:15 AM   #265
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I still think RAAMMAT is the best value for deadener. It seems right now the biggest drawback is Rick doesn't offer any kind of MLV. I ordered some of this stuff to check it out, it is super thick as I got the 1/4" stuff.

Aaron, what would you do with this if you had a roll of it laying around? Lay it on the floor?

http://www.usafoam.com/closedcellfoam/volara.html
Well, that's the thing, CCF doesn't do a lot... it's a decoupler use between CLD and MLV... but it's done wonders for my "echo" in the car...

I've covered everything though... I'd put it under the carpet myself... if you put it behind panels, you'll lose whatever gains you got due to the rest not being done...
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:35 AM   #266
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I'm going to be doing RAAMMAT, and ensolite in the doors and then pick up some MLV from somewhere as well. I just don't think I can use the 1/4" stuff in the doors.

So just to be clear, I should mat the resonant panels enough that they don't resonate, then cover everything with CCF and then go over that with MLV? Is the CCF still "decoupling" even if it is glued down?
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Old 08-13-2011, 10:48 AM   #267
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No actually this isn't over my head. Not knocking your work. You put a lot of time into it. All Im saying is you put too much in your car. That's all. It's unnecessary. Yes you will want to glue the ccf and mlv down.
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:03 PM   #268
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No actually this isn't over my head. Not knocking your work. You put a lot of time into it. All Im saying is you put too much in your car. That's all. It's unnecessary. Yes you will want to glue the ccf and mlv down.
Un-necessary for WHAT... that IS the question....

If you don't know, your just a Troll... dig...

If this was a DD, or of this WASN'T a show car, I wouldn't be doing this, but it's both and it might do some SQ comps if things come around...

Comp cars don't follow SDS... if you think they do, you are in over your head...
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Old 08-13-2011, 12:04 PM   #269
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I'm going to be doing RAAMMAT, and ensolite in the doors and then pick up some MLV from somewhere as well. I just don't think I can use the 1/4" stuff in the doors.

So just to be clear, I should mat the resonant panels enough that they don't resonate, then cover everything with CCF and then go over that with MLV? Is the CCF still "decoupling" even if it is glued down?
No no man, I used 1/8" material, and doubled it up... only on the outside of panels, on the underside, It's all typical 1/8" thick stuff...

I went thicker where I could... I also have Overkill Pro in there (3/8-1/2" thick to start)

And yes you are correct... if you follow something like SDS... you only need about 25% coverage to stop a panel from resonating...

Large open flat panels need more, bent convoluted metal needs less...

Once that's done, YES, it's overkill (sweet sweet overkill)

Then CCF to decouple and/or help with reflections... and finally MLV over to physically BLOCK sound, something the CLD can't really do...
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No no man, I used 1/8" material, and doubled it up... only on the outside of panels, on the underside, It's all typical 1/8" thick stuff...
Sorry, I was referring to the 1/4 stuff I have that I posted above.

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Then CCF to decouple and/or help with reflections... and finally MLV over to physically BLOCK sound, something the CLD can't really do...
I'm going to talk to Rick a bit before I make any more decisions. He doesn't sell MLV or any other products (as you know) because he says you can get all the same results with just his two products. When I used his products on previous vehicles I had good luck but I have never used MLV before.

I want to hear his side of the issue because you adamantly claim that Ensolite (CCF) doesn't block out noise but Rick thinks using his products in some fashion eliminates any need for MLV. At this point, given his experience and knowledge of the issue, I don't see why I wouldn't believe him.

It seems MLV could just be a product invented by people who sell these products to have another thing to sell you.
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No actually this isn't over my head. Not knocking your work. You put a lot of time into it. All Im saying is you put too much in your car. That's all. It's unnecessary. Yes you will want to glue the ccf and mlv down.
I think we had a bit of a misunderstanding... I think we good now, right?
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Bump for an awesome thread that I still follow.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:31 AM   #273
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Holy but wrap! lol, once again another meticulous subie lover hahaha =D
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Thanks guys...

I've got more to do yet, meeting another gallon of liquid and some Luxury Liner Pro has to go in...lol

Cheers
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