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Old 07-17-2008, 03:03 PM   #651
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There's a little guy on the end of the production line who used to do this on the old car and we haven't the heart to let him go.
Pretty darn funny...
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:03 PM   #652
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As you know, the other Subaru 2009s are out now, and we hope to have information on the 2009 Impreza line-up by the end of the month.
Well, it looks like some of the info has already made it's way to the outside world. Now, it we want to see what it looks like, I guess we'll have to wait till the X-games at the end of the month where Subaru claims they will give away a 2009 WRX.
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:33 PM   #653
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Sorry if this has been asked before in this thread, but when are the 09 STIs going to start hitting the showroom?
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Old 07-17-2008, 06:33 PM   #654
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There's a little guy on the end of the production line who used to do this on the old car and we haven't the heart to let him go.
I think his brother washes cars for us
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:28 PM   #655
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I just wanted to comment on 'Jon in Connecticut's' post on 'new WRX' – while this doesn't validate that post – as you know I never talk about new product either way, I just want to talk about the implications that a post like this has. If that document were real, then it's essentially stolen property-and it's been published and distributed without the consent of the owner. Even if it has been taken from an internal website, it would still remain confidential information. We have employees, vendors and dealer staff (and members of the public) who don't seem to understand this, and it's going to get someone into a lot of trouble. This kind of thing seems fun to be part of, but there can be financial implications running into millions of dollars, not to mention the tactical advantage any real document would give to competitors. There are people on here who know things, and they don't speak, and I thank them for that. I kind of liken it to if any of you were working on a new widget at home, and someone took your plans off your PC and published them on the web - it's theft and you'd be looking for a lawyer. So you know, be very thoughtful when you post stuff like this.
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Old 07-17-2008, 08:41 PM   #656
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:59 AM   #657
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SOA Blog, This isn't so much a question, because I know you won't really be able to answer it, but I would just encourage you not to forget about us 2008 WRX owners. I think that making the CBE available at a great price, as well as the STI springs, is exactly the kind of thing that needs to happen.

I think there are going to be a good number of people out there eager to bring their 2008's up to 2009 levels. Something as simple as a reflash, if that is all the reported power hike will be, would be greatly appreciated by us owners I am sure, especially if the price were reasonable, or even *gasp* complementary with the purchase or previous purchase of the CBE.

I don't think any of us were expecting these kind of major changes after just one year. I would just like to see some reassurance that we won't be forgotten in the shuffle.
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Old 07-18-2008, 03:50 AM   #658
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There's a little guy on the end of the production line who used to do this on the old car and we haven't the heart to let him go.
So THAAAT'S where Zapatinas ended up. I always wondered.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:50 AM   #659
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So THAAAT'S where Zapatinas ended up. I always wondered.
Funny, everyone still blames Zap even though the designs he has done have been best sellers so far.........
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Old 07-18-2008, 12:59 PM   #660
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I just wanted to comment on 'Jon in Connecticut's' post on 'new WRX' while this doesn't validate that post as you know I never talk about new product either way, I just want to talk about the implications that a post like this has. If that document were real, then it's essentially stolen property-and it's been published and distributed without the consent of the owner. Even if it has been taken from an internal website, it would still remain confidential information. We have employees, vendors and dealer staff (and members of the public) who don't seem to understand this, and it's going to get someone into a lot of trouble. This kind of thing seems fun to be part of, but there can be financial implications running into millions of dollars, not to mention the tactical advantage any real document would give to competitors. There are people on here who know things, and they don't speak, and I thank them for that. I kind of liken it to if any of you were working on a new widget at home, and someone took your plans off your PC and published them on the web - it's theft and you'd be looking for a lawyer. So you know, be very thoughtful when you post stuff like this.
Dear SOA Blog,

before calling somebody a thief you would need to prove that something was stolen. Are you absolutly sure that this information is not already public? Somebody printed window stickers. They are already applied to cars in transit. Tens if not hundreds of people have already seen them. Have they all signed NDAs (non disclosure agreement)?

I do not think that competitors have anything to gain. It is too late for them.
Only SOA and customers who bought 2008 "WRX" are going to lose.

If SOA would have decided to keep JDM name S-GT or GT for turbo Impreza then it would not be such a problem. Unluckily WRX was released and it got lukewarm reception. Former King of "Pocket Rockets" was no more, even after major redesign. It could not be a surprise for SOA. They must have checked Mazdaspeed 3 and other competitors earlier. They knew what they are doing, if not - well they should have known.

Instead of releasing cars 2.5i, GT, WRX STI and year later WRX SOA now looks like they are redesigning WRX just after 1 model year. Just like Tribeca or B9 Tribeca. Should Subaru be known as 1 year redesign manufacturer?

I can see customers, who bought 2008 WRXes, angry and disappointed but they were buying 1st year model. Such people are always guinea pigs but SOA makes it painfully obvious. Not good move.

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Thanks K - what I said was a general comment about information being lifted from private sites, as this purports to be. I agree, information that is out, is out... but I just wanted people to understand what it means to take material from somewhere confidential and publish it without authority.
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before calling somebody a thief you would need to prove that something was stolen. Are you absolutly sure that this information is not already public? Somebody printed window stickers. They are already applied to cars in transit. Tens if not hundreds of people have already seen them. Have they all signed NDAs (non disclosure agreement)?


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The people that would have seen them would either be FHI employees, or employees of the shipping company, all of which would know to keep a tight lip about vehicles until they are announced and would very likely have signed NDAs
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So, SOA blog, how about them diesels and or small cars coming to the US? Planning on paying cash for one diesel or two small cars, just shoot me a PM with a time frame and how much to bring

Or not, just take it as another request to bring them over.
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You are correct hondaslayer but what about 3rd party present at shipping dock/facility?

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The people that would have seen them would either be FHI employees, or employees of the shipping company, all of which would know to keep a tight lip about vehicles until they are announced and would very likely have signed NDAs
and even if you haven't signed an NDA, if you don't own the material (or it's not public domain material), you can't publish it.
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You are correct hondaslayer but what about 3rd party present at shipping dock/facility?

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Like who?

Ever been to one of those yards? If you don't work there then there is no way to even get close enough to tell if it's an Impreza or a Hummer.
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No, I was not there but I saw pictures of BMW 1 series taken by somebody passing by. They looked like BMWs.

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More than likely an employee working there than a simple passer-by
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:10 PM   #669
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Like who?

Ever been to one of those yards? If you don't work there then there is no way to even get close enough to tell if it's an Impreza or a Hummer.

We have a little place in my town called Autoport, it's not Fort Knox, you would be very surprised where and how you can slip into "secure" locations.
http://www.cn.ca/specialized/autopor..._halifax.shtml

Pretty much every car produced in Europe destined for North America comes through here. No NDA's for casual daily labour
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:36 PM   #670
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Hey SOA blog, I have a question,

How come SOA has not implemented Subaru's Intelligent Key system in its North American line up? Subarus in other parts of the world get this system (Europe and Japan) so the R&D is already done and the parts are already designed. Why not offer it for US consumption since Mazda, Mitsubishi, BMW, Toyota, Lexus, Infinity, Nissan and Honda already have this technology available throughout their line-ups. The only explanation I can think of is to avoid consumer sticker-shock by minimizing the number of available features to keep the price tag down. (i.e. people would balk at and walk away from a $30k window sticker on 2.5i before checking out the extensive feature/amenity list)
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Funny, everyone still blames Zap even though the designs he has done have been best sellers so far.........
Hey, I'm not blamin' Zap. He was a scapegoat, at least in the media & innernets. How it played out @ FHI, I doubt we'll ever know. If anyone should be "blamed" for the aerosnout, it would likely be the FHI exec who insisted on grafting it on (IIRC). Personally, I don't even mind the snout noses and think the Tribeca was very distinctive. It looks better every time I see it... I see quite a few '06s & '07s on the road now. At the right angles it looks very sophisticated.

Don't know how complete Zap's control was over the Impreza design, but it sure has been a good seller.

SOA Blog - can you tell us where Mr. Zapatinas went after FHI?
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:33 AM   #672
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Please bring back Acadia green on the impreza/legacy line
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:42 PM   #673
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SOA Blog - can you tell us where Mr. Zapatinas went after FHI?
He seems to have fallen into a black hole. All my Google and Ujiko searches come back with things prior to his Subaru departure in 2006.
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He seems to have fallen into a black hole. All my Google and Ujiko searches come back with things prior to his Subaru departure in 2006.
He started his own design studio, Adreas Zapatinas Design, in Gazzada-Schianno, Italy, which is near Milan.
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Cool. Good to know he didn't just disappear.
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