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Old 07-29-2008, 06:03 PM   #701
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Heck I've seen several 70+ year old grandmothers (you know Blue-hairs) driving STis in NY/NJ. At least 4-5 of them in my travels. So how is that for breaking the mold?

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Old 07-29-2008, 06:04 PM   #702
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No, actually they are not.

MOST WRX owners are not enthusiasts, they are average people looking for a fun car.

There are more enthusiasts in STI but even then most of those are still stock.
Agreed. Hence why the RE92s are a good choice as an OEM tire provided by the manufacturer. It's kinda a dumb point to make because there is no 1 single tire that will make all the niche enthusiasts happy. I hate Kumho MX tires, yet a lot of folks do, some like Azenis, others like Toyos, etc. etc.

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Old 07-29-2008, 06:21 PM   #703
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Agreed. Hence why the RE92s are a good choice as an OEM tire provided by the manufacturer. It's kinda a dumb point to make because there is no 1 single tire that will make all the niche enthusiasts happy. I hate Kumho MX tires, yet a lot of folks do, some like Azenis, others like Toyos, etc. etc.

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I can't stand the Ecsta SPT, but I love my RE-070's that it seems people almost throw away since they are stock
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Old 07-29-2008, 06:38 PM   #704
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I'm not sure, but it would be irrelevent to this discusssion as really we are talking about a USDM thing. Outside the US car owners have different needs and desires. Similar to why Walmart works here and not in other markets....

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Not sure I agree Mike. Folks who drive in the UK, France are not so different from folks who drive here, or their driving styles for that matter. A Legacy or Outback is pretty much driven in the same manner regardless of where it's purchased and driven.

Besides, I'm curious as to what other Subaru distributors use as their all-purpose tire for Subarus.

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Old 07-29-2008, 06:47 PM   #705
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The tire is a 205/50R17

I cannot find the exact tire, but the images do look like an RE92
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Old 07-29-2008, 09:11 PM   #706
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Guys, this is not a tire thread......
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Guys, this is not a tire thread......
Yeah...it's getting a little tire-some.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:04 PM   #708
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Can you please tell us at what time 2009 WRX info will be released tomorrow?

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Not Tomorrow - Thursday
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Not sure I agree Mike. Folks who drive in the UK, France are not so different from folks who drive here, or their driving styles for that matter. A Legacy or Outback is pretty much driven in the same manner regardless of where it's purchased and driven.

Besides, I'm curious as to what other Subaru distributors use as their all-purpose tire for Subarus.

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Driving styles ARE different in Europe - more congestion and smaller cars leading to lots of zipping between all the parked cars, racing up to the next lights etc. More manuals than here too.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:44 PM   #711
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Now that Honda and Toyota are putting better hybrids into production for the next models why is Subaru still thinking anybody in the U.S. will ever buy a Subaru diesel?




you had the hybrid technology, you didn't use it, Subaru is entering a big FAIL zone.
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Old 07-29-2008, 10:51 PM   #712
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Driving styles ARE different in Europe - more congestion and smaller cars leading to lots of zipping between all the parked cars, racing up to the next lights etc. More manuals than here too.
But are the "tires" different? And if so, why?

What I'm trying to find out is are the RE92s a "global" tire for Subaru, used in markets across the world? Or are they just used here in North America?

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Now that Honda and Toyota are putting better hybrids into production for the next models why is Subaru still thinking anybody in the U.S. will ever buy a Subaru diesel?




you had the hybrid technology, you didn't use it, Subaru is entering a big FAIL zone.
Same reason VW, BMW and MB think so.
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Hybrid ... 8 years to realize the savings in the extra cost, but then there's two motors / transmissions to repair and maintain, and will you still have the car in 8 years?
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:41 AM   #715
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Same reason VW, BMW and MB think so.
Does subaru of America feel that there is a niche for a high performance diesel? What diesel cars is Subaru looking at in the US to determine the viability of diesel? BMW 335d or VW Jetta TDI? Is there anything keeping Subaru from giving us a higher performance diesel in the US(like the make up of the actual diesel itself)?

I know you can't answer questions about future products, but can you at least try to answer leading questions?

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Does subaru of America feel that there is a niche for a high performance diesel? What diesel cars is Subaru looking at in the US to determine the viability of diesel? BMW 335d or VW Jetta TDI? Is there anything keeping Subaru from giving us a higher performance diesel in the US(like the make up of the actual diesel itself)?
The 2.0 liter boxer diesel drives really well - it's smooth, has loads of torque, passing power to die for. Boxer diesel is inherently strong due to its short stroke. We are still developing for the US, but haven't put a firm time on it yet. Would love to have it here now, but have to get it right for the US. Can't say more than that.
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:21 AM   #717
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SOA Blog,
Didn't we hear that Subaru will be bringing some of the design features of the diesel to the gas boxers? Can you elaborate on what will come over?

Does the diesel make use of the lambchop rod style from the 3.6 with the rotated crank face, and, if so, will that come to the other engines?
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:55 AM   #718
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The 2.0 liter boxer diesel drives really well - it's smooth, has loads of torque, passing power to die for. Boxer diesel is inherently strong due to its short stroke. We are still developing for the US, but haven't put a firm time on it yet. Would love to have it here now, but have to get it right for the US. Can't say more than that.
Thanks for the prompt response. I would just hope you bump up the power to at least equal the HP output of the base gas engine.

People in the US just don't understand torque unless it is coming from a big V8, and many people haven't driven enough turbo engines to appreciate the feeling of speed torque can impart. So it is a hard sell to pay extra for something with less horsepower in the US.
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Heck I've seen several 70+ year old grandmothers (you know Blue-hairs) driving STis in NY/NJ. At least 4-5 of them in my travels. So how is that for breaking the mold?

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WRB-hairs? Oops - sorry, veering off-topic...

SOA blog: Is it possible to get further future timelines like the release on Thursday in advance? I would guess that releases are timed far in advance so it'd be neat to get a little bit of a lead on when the new info is coming out. Just a thought

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The 2.0 liter boxer diesel drives really well - it's smooth, has loads of torque, passing power to die for. Boxer diesel is inherently strong due to its short stroke. We are still developing for the US, but haven't put a firm time on it yet. Would love to have it here now, but have to get it right for the US. Can't say more than that.
What do u mean by that?
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Yeah...it's getting a little tire-some.
Boy, you two studs really let the air out of that conversation. But I think those retreads needed to get a grip... they weren't making any traction with their arguments, anyway.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:24 AM   #722
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The 2.0 liter boxer diesel drives really well - it's smooth, has loads of torque, passing power to die for. Boxer diesel is inherently strong due to its short stroke. We are still developing for the US, but haven't put a firm time on it yet. Would love to have it here now, but have to get it right for the US. Can't say more than that.
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What do u mean by that?
He can't say more than that.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:25 AM   #723
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WRB-hairs? Oops - sorry, veering off-topic...
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OK, Ian, nobody else seemed to notice, but I'll laugh.
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What do u mean by that?

we have to make sure it's right for the US - in terms of power delivery, emissions levels, and so on. You can't just bring an engine to the US - work has to be done.
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Old 07-30-2008, 11:47 AM   #725
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Can you please tell us at what time 2009 WRX info will be released Thursday?

Thanks
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What time Thursday? Will you be creating a new thread with the official info or will it be available through Subaru.com?
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