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Old 04-24-2009, 05:35 PM   #1826
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Yep, but there's a fresh batch of interns every year! And with more people deferring retirement now, there are fewer job openings for those interns to move into! Free labor will just be stacking up... they're comin' to take our jobs, man!!!
After that, it'll devolve into an intern-eat-intern world. And after that, things'll go pretty much Planet of the Apes, more or less.
I used to have a dog that would watch TV,,, just loved animals on TV. and when she saw monkeys on horses.. oh boy...

to be clear, NASIOC is something we try to fit in between all the other crap.. I mean work. Right now we're on here a bit more 'cos of Legacy.. but we get on when we can.
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:44 PM   #1827
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I don't get you...
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:58 PM   #1828
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I used to have a dog that would watch TV,,, just loved animals on TV. and when she saw monkeys on horses.. oh boy...

to be clear, NASIOC is something we try to fit in between all the other crap.. I mean work. Right now we're on here a bit more 'cos of Legacy.. but we get on when we can.
Do you guys ever visit other parts of NASIOC such as the Of Topic section on your "free" time at work?
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:13 PM   #1829
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Do you guys ever visit other parts of NASIOC such as the Of Topic section on your "free" time at work?
We try to stay in here.. as we are communications people it makes more sense. And we don't have the time eg to answer tech questiosn or look up facts and figures (there are guys on here that are quicker than us anyway).
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:27 PM   #1830
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I don't get you...

You've never seen that movie? It has video game programmers and from that movie it looks like that is the best job in the world.
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Old 04-24-2009, 07:23 PM   #1831
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You've never seen that movie? It has video game programmers and from that movie it looks like that is the best job in the world.
Lol, I thought you were going for some sort of lame name-calling! My bad!
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:04 PM   #1832
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Oh no. It's just the way you described what people think you do is exactly how "grandma's boy" is. You should watch it. It's funny. You might like it.

Sorry to go ot.
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Old 04-24-2009, 08:14 PM   #1833
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Best. Movie. Ever. Well, not really, but damn funny....
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Old 04-24-2009, 09:00 PM   #1834
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Free labor is no substitute for talent and experience.

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Unless you have shareholders that only want short-term profit 'cause they're ready to cash in.
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:44 AM   #1835
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The 2009 Forester has temperature lights. Blue for cold, nothing for normal operating temperatures, and red for overheating.
Yes, that sucks though. I need to be able to see the temperature climb and not just be alerted when the temp breaks a certain threshold.
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:53 PM   #1836
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Yes, that sucks though. I need to be able to see the temperature climb and not just be alerted when the temp breaks a certain threshold.
Do you know why your car is overheating? That shouldn't be acceptable on a car only 3-4 years old.
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Old 04-25-2009, 05:05 PM   #1837
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Do you know why your car is overheating? That shouldn't be acceptable on a car only 3-4 years old.
I have no idea and the dealership has no idea. I brought it in once when it was overheating near the dealership, but it was a Saturday and service closes early on that day (which is stupid since the weekends are times people can actually work on their cars). Anyway, it happens intermittently but the factors always include it being hot outside (mid 90's and up), the A/C running, and doing a lot of idling. The cooling system has been flushed twice by the dealership and the fan motor seems to be working so I am out of ideas.

SOA_Blog, have you heard of any weird overheating issues in '06 Tribecas by chance?
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Old 04-25-2009, 05:40 PM   #1838
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More and more, sadly (or not) legislation is affecting car design... even to how the exhaust sounds...
I assume this makes bringing over the WRX/STI over a continually harder to justify business decision.

With that assumption, one could understandably wonder if the WRX/STI will face the prospect of being dumbed-down, or even eliminated altogether...

The WRX's 08->09 leap forward notwithstanding, of course.
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Old 04-25-2009, 06:56 PM   #1839
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I think the WRX/STi are ok for the moment...those are cars that make Subaru special!
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I assume this makes bringing over the WRX/STI over a continually harder to justify business decision.

With that assumption, one could understandably wonder if the WRX/STI will face the prospect of being dumbed-down, or even eliminated altogether...

The WRX's 08->09 leap forward notwithstanding, of course.
Well, it least the law is the same for everyone. Watch out for the IIHS though and their call for hp limits, etc...
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:50 PM   #1841
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Well, it least the law is the same for everyone. Watch out for the IIHS though and their call for hp limits, etc...
I just went to their site (http://www.iihs.org/), and their featured article is this:

"New car-to-car tests show importance of size and weight in crash outcomes"

Reading the article, it seems they are advocating we all drive 75hp, 7000 lb armor-cladded Suburbans. Flies in the face of the whole active/passive safety thing (which they try to rebuke using insurance stats later in the article). Between these IIHS jerk-offs and the environmental regulators, I don't know how the heck you guys would get anything approved for sale over here. Do they forget that the car companies are trying to run a business?

Let's see some creativity out of you car manufacturers - how about some sanctioned/warrantied aftermarket options for us consumers? Figure out the legalese to get it separated cleanly from the manufacturing and sales arm (I'm assuming that's what keeps SPT so gimped) and let us the consumer deal with the EPA and IIHS - they can't get all of us!

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Old 04-25-2009, 10:52 PM   #1842
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^^I'm not sure what you are ranting about. IIHS is right; even assuming equal safety features, larger cars are safer than smaller ones. The push to improve fuel economy costs lives:

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Not so much this... but their call to limit HP.
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Hey SOA Blog,

Any idea what car show will have the 2010 Impreza?
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Not so much this... but their call to limit HP.
Got a link? In any case, high-HP do increase risk somewhat, especially with young/inexperienced drivers.
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Got a link? In any case, high-HP do increase risk somewhat, especially with young/inexperienced drivers.

I agree, yes.. but the IIHS agenda is to save the insurance companies money.. and that means fewer and less damaging accidents.. which of course is a good thing.. but to do it, they are advocating, larger, slower vehicles.

"IIHS criticized the current structure of fuel economy standards for cars because "the target of 27.5 miles per gallon is applied to an automaker's whole fleet, no matter the mix of cars an individual automaker sells." Such an approach, IIHS argued, "encourages manufacturers to sell more smaller, lighter cars to offset the fuel consumed by their bigger, heavier models. Sometimes automakers even sell the smaller -- and less safe -- cars at a loss to ensure compliance with fleetwide requirements."
In response, the Obama administration announced it is boosting the fuel economy standard for cars, beginning with 2011 models, and instituting a size-based system to set fuel economy targets like the one already in effect for SUVs, pickups and vans. "This system will mandate lower fuel consumption as cars get smaller and lighter, thus removing the incentive for automakers to downsize their lightest vehicles to comply. It also could mean that technology currently used to enhance horsepower would go instead to reduce gas consumption -- a direct safety benefit because less powerful cars have lower crash rates," IIHS said.

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^^That all seems to make sense, except maybe for this:

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I'm not sure what they are trying to say. I don't see anything explicitly calling for cars to have less HP, though.
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^^That all seems to make sense, except maybe for this:



I'm not sure what they are trying to say. I don't see anything explicitly calling for cars to have less HP, though.

In government circles- lobbying etc, you say things subtly. It's there. And so of course is the castigation of small cars. IIHS would have us driving 70hp tanks limited to 55 mph. In general, the IIHS benefits consumers.. so we aren't on a crusade against them by any means...but it's not their primary objective.
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so.....when are we getting the hybrid?
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:33 PM   #1850
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are there any plans to bring the 5spd back into the forrester or even a 6spd?
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