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Old 04-30-2009, 10:57 AM   #1901
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+1 on CVT chain life. I was talking with our local Subaru tech. He's a Master Technician with 30+ years in Subarus and might be the oldest Subaru Master Tech in the nation and was VERY unhappy with the new CVT info. He said that Subaru must have a short memory as they used it before with much fail.
i heard the older Justy CVT's were NOT chain based
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:03 AM   #1902
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Your master tech should wait until he hears more about this tranny before he spouts off. This is an all-new unit.. nothing like the old one of 20 years ago and FHI is very confident about its durability.
I'm a bit gun shy on the CVT as well (I remember the days of the Justy) but, that is why I will be going with an SAS contract on it, having that will guarantee that the CVT stays intact!

PS: I can haz towing package with trans cooler for CVT?
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:16 AM   #1903
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+1 on CVT chain life. I was talking with our local Subaru tech. He's a Master Technician with 30+ years in Subarus and might be the oldest Subaru Master Tech in the nation and was VERY unhappy with the new CVT info. He said that Subaru must have a short memory as they used it before with much fail.
Subaru wouldn't risk there future or reputation on a CVT if they didn't think it was reliable.

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Old 04-30-2009, 02:09 PM   #1904
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Subaru should provide a longer warranty on the cvt to quell peoples "fears".
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:10 PM   #1905
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Why are people "afraid" of the CVT? They aren't bad.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:16 PM   #1906
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Subaru should provide a longer warranty on the cvt to quell peoples "fears".
There are no fears. CVT is proving durable elswhere and ours has some extra protection built in.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:26 PM   #1907
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Why are people "afraid" of the CVT? They aren't bad.
The fears are from people that had a bad experience with Subaru's initial foray into CVT with the Justy.

Subaru was the first manufacturer to bring CVT to the north-american market, so it was quite a milestone, but the long-term reliability wasn't there. I'm sure Subaru is making sure not to make that same mistake twice.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:27 PM   #1908
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There are no fears. CVT is proving durable elswhere and ours has some extra protection built in.
Playing devil's advocate here (I have no problem with the CVT, assuming it's a good one), but why did they not use it in the H6 models as well?

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Old 04-30-2009, 02:32 PM   #1909
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Playing devil's advocate here (I have no problem with the CVT, assuming it's a good one), but why did they not use it in the H6 models as well?

Bob
I was about to ask the same question. I'd love a 3.6 H6 with CVT, especially on a Tribeca (2011 model?)!!!
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:34 PM   #1910
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The fears are from people that had a bad experience with Subaru's initial foray into CVT with the Justy.

Subaru was the first manufacturer to bring CVT to the north-american market, so it was quite a milestone, but the long-term reliability wasn't there. I'm sure Subaru is making sure not to make that same mistake twice.
Yes, we won't... but few, few people remember that.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:36 PM   #1911
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Playing devil's advocate here (I have no problem with the CVT, assuming it's a good one), but why did they not use it in the H6 models as well?

Bob
The torque in the 2.5i is comfortably within the limits of the CVT. Who knows over time that it won't go in the 3.6. It's also a capacity thing right now.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:43 PM   #1912
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The torque in the 2.5i is comfortably within the limits of the CVT. Who knows over time that it won't go in the 3.6. It's also a capacity thing right now.
Why did FHI decide on a CVT as opposed to a 6EAT?

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Old 04-30-2009, 02:45 PM   #1913
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Why did FHI decide on a CVT as opposed to a 6EAT?

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Lighter, smaller, good economy, not as expensive to build.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:52 PM   #1914
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Lighter, smaller, good economy, not as expensive to build.
And like the 4EAT, but unlike the 5EAT, this new CVT is an "in-house" unit; meaning designed, engineered and built by FHI, correct?

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Old 04-30-2009, 04:08 PM   #1915
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Theyre pretty cool....they simulate a 6speed transmission and have padle shifters.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:40 PM   #1916
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fear of the unknown may make people not want it.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:41 PM   #1917
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The torque in the 2.5i is comfortably within the limits of the CVT. Who knows over time that it won't go in the 3.6. It's also a capacity thing right now.
put double chains and pullys in
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fear of the unknown may make people not want it.
Those that know enough to know what it is, will know they are fine now. Those that don't will just know it's an auto.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:52 PM   #1919
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Those that know enough to know what it is, will know they are fine now. Those that don't will just know it's an auto.
i know what you know is knowing all that can be known but i don't know all that is known that you know.









it's funny but the more i see the word know the more i want to say KA-now...........ya know??
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:54 PM   #1920
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i know what you know is knowing all that can be known but i don't know all that is known that you know.









it's funny but the more i see the word know the more i want to say KA-now...........ya know??
That's why I wrote it that way - y'know?
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:54 PM   #1921
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Theyre pretty cool....they simulate a 6speed transmission and have padle shifters.
Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't this effectively defeat the whole purpose of having a CVT? (I know, this is what the public wants, because they like hear the engine rev up and down, rather than just sit at the peak torque point.)
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Pardon my ignorance, but doesn't this effectively defeat the whole purpose of having a CVT? (I know, this is what the public wants, because they like hear the engine rev up and down, rather than just sit at the peak torque point.)

what it does is allow you to quickly "downshift" or lower the ratio for an RPM boost. And it provides a level of control to the driver.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:39 PM   #1923
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Do we know when the 2010 Impreza news will be announced? Holding off purchases until we get a 'yay/nay' on a sedan STI.

I'm fully expecting a 'nay'.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:45 PM   #1924
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what it does is allow you to quickly "downshift" or lower the ratio for an RPM boost. And it provides a level of control to the driver.
Yes, but you should be able to do that with a CVT just by hitting the gas. Building fake ratios into a CVT seems just silly. Anyone who wants real control should buy an Mt
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:04 PM   #1925
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I thought it was kind of neat, albeit pointless, I can see where it might come in handy towing.

Which leads me to my question, I may have missed it but has the tow rating for the new Outback been released yet?
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