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Old 06-04-2009, 11:28 PM   #2101
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My dads 27 inch thighs for one. My moms purse. Better cup holders.
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Better cupholders? BP/BL has sliding cover which makes the cupholder double as a cubby. Note, JDM BR/BM also gets a cover for the cupholders, but USDM doesn't... they even cut costs there to save on a simple plastic flap....
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Have you been in the car yet? Why on earth would you need a cover over the cup holders? I have one in my STI and it has been closed once in 20k miles and that was when I took it off the truck. The new car has a bigger center console so you wont need the little cubby/cup holder.

I just walked through service and looked at all of the 05-9 Legacys and Outbacks and not one of them has the cover closed.
Good luck fitting the thighs and purse in the space provided by removing the parking brake... if anything the center console is wider than previously. Yes, I've been in the new Legacy. There seems to be less knee room against the console. I can see an advantage from not having the end of the parking brake handle against the thigh, but you're not getting extra room out of it. I would've thought redesigning the parking brake handle would've been a better, easier solution.

I'm curious what makes the 2010 cupholders "better"?

Incidentally, I use the covered cupholder to hold coins, since there's no coin tray in the dash like there was on my old '91 Legacy. It's nice to be able to toss something in there and close the lid... keeps things out of sight and also cleans up the look of the center console. It's not a travesty that there's not a cover anymore, but it was nice. If you didn't like the cover, there was certainly the option of not using it.
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Old 06-09-2009, 12:38 AM   #2102
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Any possibility of future Foresters having the Harmon Kardon sound system that is currently found in Legacy GT? I think it would bode well.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:30 AM   #2103
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SOA Blog, also Forester XTI plz.
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:49 AM   #2104
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Does SOA offer tours of their manufacturing plants or anything? Just curious.
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:03 AM   #2105
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Does SOA offer tours of their manufacturing plants or anything? Just curious.

Yes.

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Old 06-09-2009, 10:53 AM   #2106
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The tour is highly recommended, you will come out with a new appreciation for what the cars go through before you ever get your hands on them.
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:59 AM   #2107
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The tour is highly recommended, you will come out with a new appreciation for what the cars go through before you ever get your hands on them.
Too bad the minimum age is 10, my little boy would love to see this I'm sure, it will be hard to make the couple hour drive so I can take a tour while leaving him behind, I still might though.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:28 AM   #2108
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SOA Blog: What are the towing capacities for the 2010 Legacy and Outback?
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:51 AM   #2109
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SOA Blog: What are the towing capacities for the 2010 Legacy and Outback?
I'm definitely curious about this too. Would guess that the official answer is that the Legacy won't have a tow-bar setup "available", but that the Outback will. So, how much is the USDM Outback rated for?
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Old 06-10-2009, 01:08 PM   #2110
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Not sure if this has been asked yet(there are 85 pages here), but is Subaru planning on implementing the turbo manifold design on the 2010 Legacy into the other turbo vehicles?(ie. wrx, sti, etc..).

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Old 06-10-2009, 02:10 PM   #2111
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^^That would be a question about future product, which they don't answer, but innovations introduced on one model often find their way into other ones.
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:00 PM   #2112
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^^That would be a question about future product, which they don't answer, but innovations introduced on one model often find their way into other ones.
Let's hope so!
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:31 AM   #2113
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SOA Blog: What are the towing capacities for the 2010 Legacy and Outback?
SOA Blog, can you please answer this?

Also, what are the options for attaching a roof rack to the 2010 Legacy? I saw the car in person at WBM but could not seem to find any sort of attachment point for a roof rack.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:04 PM   #2114
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Full Outback specs were recently posted on the Cars101 Outback page at http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outbac...tml#mechanical

Outback towing listed as 2700 pounds across the board for all engine types, with trailer brakes recommended over 1300 pounds.

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Old 06-16-2009, 12:57 PM   #2115
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Some quick answers with thanks to our SOA colleagues:

Heated screen: We have not lost the feature - the electric grid is simply hidden below the window blackout surround now, instead of being exposed as on past models.

No towing capacity for Legacy - neither current or new are rated to tow.

Outback: 2.5i = 2700 lb trailer max, 200 lb tongue max

3.6R= 3000 lb trailer max, 200 lb tongue max

Both assume trailer brakes on trailer.

If no trailer brakes, 1000 lb max trailer weight only

We don't have any roof carriers for '10 Legacy, nor is there a trailer hitch available. Keep in mind that the previous generation Legacy (2005-2009) did not have these features either.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:11 PM   #2116
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Thanks for the answers.

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We don't have any roof carriers for '10 Legacy, nor is there a trailer hitch available.
There goes that sale (new at least; might consider used)

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hmmm ... I didn't know that. Not even the 2005 LGT wagon?
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:19 PM   #2117
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There's pics of the JDM LGT wagon with a roof rack like the WRX.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:22 PM   #2118
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Some quick answers with thanks to our SOA colleagues:

Heated screen: We have not lost the feature - the electric grid is simply hidden below the window blackout surround now, instead of being exposed as on past models.

No towing capacity for Legacy - neither current or new are rated to tow.

Outback: 2.5i = 2700 lb trailer max, 200 lb tongue max

3.6R= 3000 lb trailer max, 200 lb tongue max

Both assume trailer brakes on trailer.

If no trailer brakes, 1000 lb max trailer weight only

We don't have any roof carriers for '10 Legacy, nor is there a trailer hitch available. Keep in mind that the previous generation Legacy (2005-2009) did not have these features either.
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According to the owner's manual, which I checked today upon driving my second Legacy 2.5i, the 2010 Legacy is rated to tow 1000 pounds.

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Old 06-16-2009, 03:29 PM   #2119
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hmmm ... I didn't know that. Not even the 2005 LGT wagon?
Of course wagon had. Btw, early built sedans had trailer harness in place that was deleted later.
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Old 06-16-2009, 09:53 PM   #2120
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Ok, so this is the JDM Outback, which doesn't have rails.

SOA Blog, we really won't get the weather stripping w/ those slots like the USDM WRX has?

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Old 06-16-2009, 11:24 PM   #2121
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^^The USDM Legacy does have the weatherstripping, but no slots that I (or the SNE guy) could find.
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Old 06-16-2009, 11:34 PM   #2122
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^^The USDM Legacy does have the weatherstripping, but no slots that I (or the SNE guy) could find.
I wonder if the car is pre cut w/ the slots but the USDM stripping covers it? Since the sheet metal of the USDM and JDM are the same besides the fenders and front end.
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Old 06-17-2009, 12:02 AM   #2123
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Or maybe the stripping was not the final version ...
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:05 AM   #2124
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SOA Blog,

Can we get an idea of the cubic feet of the trunk/back seat of the 2010 Legacy, when the seats are down? I realize the trunk has increased from 11 to 14, but if I change, I'll be changing from a 2005 OBXT and want to make sure there is still pretty good space there.

Even if you don't have a set number, just an estimate would suffice for my comparos.

Thanks,
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Old 06-18-2009, 09:04 AM   #2125
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Can we get an idea of the cubic feet of the trunk/back seat of the 2010 Legacy, when the seats are down? I realize the trunk has increased from 11 to 14, but if I change, I'll be changing from a 2005 OBXT and want to make sure there is still pretty good space there.

Even if you don't have a set number, just an estimate would suffice for my comparos.

Thanks,
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not really - you'd have to measure the whole cabin then...

best way is go see.
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