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Old 02-26-2008, 02:31 PM   #76
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Also Ron, why don't we address the bearing change also. You are quick to ignore that too. Why did you charge me for a rebuild when you told me clevite bearings were faulty. Which killed the bearings the last time the wire brush or too much gas? Your the expert here, why is there a flip flop. I guess it was both things. So either way i was double screwed right.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:02 PM   #77
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Well how many miles are on the pistons then? When exactly did you tell me about the 8 degrees advance? Why didn't you tell phil since you were on the phone with him? Stop changing the subject. Yes the pistons have 10 miles on them like I said, if that though. I don't even think i drove the car 10 miles. What does that have to do with timing advance? Oh yea im at work I'll address your other half truths later.
Who am I Miss Cleo? I can't tell total mileage from the looks but I can tell you that they sure look like they have more than 10 miles on them.


Here is what I think is happening and why this is turning out how it has. Greg is devastated that he has spent the amount of money he has on the car but it has yet to be productive. Several mistakes were made along the way, and the easy way out is to blame the builder. This is typical, happens every day not just in the Subaru world. So he has deemed it necessary to go about all of this the way he has and somehow this is making him feel better inside. I don't know.
Phil's remarks all stem from my calling him out on the problems with SOME of the Hydra units. Phil and I actually used to have a very good relationship up until the time that I made my comments about the problematic Hydra units having potential/partial blame for a couple failures. I like the Hydra, still like tuning with it, and just bought a car with one in it. And instead of accepting the fact that SOME of the Hydra units were experiencing some issues, he brushes it off and makes the claim every Hydra unit he has ever sold has been problem free. Now, since Greg has taken his car to Phil for service, it's the perfect opportunity for Phil to try and correlate Greg's initial failures, this failure, and the other couple failures and my appearant lack of knowledge(according the both of them) to be able to build a good Subaru engine. And yet the failures we are all talking about, including Greg's were all running the Hydra EMS. Somehow that seems more relative over everything else.
I have way, way too many success stories about to let all this get to me, but I somehow feel letdown that I have to go through all this with these two people and now I feel I will not even be able to secure a new Hydra without the feeling that if I need help with it, I can't even call Phil for that.

Just as well though. AEM is nearly completed with their drive by wire harness and when it becomes available, I will recommend the AEM to every engine customer that needs it. I've seen/heard of much better results with it anyway.

I've got to get back to work.
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Old 02-26-2008, 03:28 PM   #78
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Who am I Miss Cleo? I can't tell total mileage from the looks but I can tell you that they sure look like they have more than 10 miles on them.


Here is what I think is happening and why this is turning out how it has. Greg is devastated that he has spent the amount of money he has on the car but it has yet to be productive. Several mistakes were made along the way, and the easy way out is to blame the builder. This is typical, happens every day not just in the Subaru world. So he has deemed it necessary to go about all of this the way he has and somehow this is making him feel better inside. I don't know.
Phil's remarks all stem from my calling him out on the problems with SOME of the Hydra units. Phil and I actually used to have a very good relationship up until the time that I made my comments about the problematic Hydra units having potential/partial blame for a couple failures. I like the Hydra, still like tuning with it, and just bought a car with one in it. And instead of accepting the fact that SOME of the Hydra units were experiencing some issues, he brushes it off and makes the claim every Hydra unit he has ever sold has been problem free. Now, since Greg has taken his car to Phil for service, it's the perfect opportunity for Phil to try and correlate Greg's initial failures, this failure, and the other couple failures and my appearant lack of knowledge(according the both of them) to be able to build a good Subaru engine. And yet the failures we are all talking about, including Greg's were all running the Hydra EMS. Somehow that seems more relative over everything else.
I have way, way too many success stories about to let all this get to me, but I somehow feel letdown that I have to go through all this with these two people and now I feel I will not even be able to secure a new Hydra without the feeling that if I need help with it, I can't even call Phil for that.

Just as well though. AEM is nearly completed with their drive by wire harness and when it becomes available, I will recommend the AEM to every engine customer that needs it. I've seen/heard of much better results with it anyway.

I've got to get back to work.
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Ron you still are avoiding my questions. Yes I dont like that I have spent so much money. Yes I will admit I have made mistakes. What you refuse to do is admit that you made any mistakes. Phil did not use me as an end to his means by no means. If anything I appreciate him sticking up for me. Its my word vs. yours, and of course you have more credibility in this forum. After the number of motor builds you and I have went through, can you honestly say that you have done everything perfectly each and every time? Why are you avoiding my questions about the charges for the clevite bearings being replaced by acl's? When exactly did you tell me about the 8 degrees advance? Did you email it to me, or did you just tell me like you told me about the cams. Ron you never told me about the cams and you never told me about this. You gave me a suspect story to what went wrong with my engine while it was at "tuner in atlanta." Blaming it on fuel, blaming it on wire brush. You still haven't definitively told me anything. You threaten to post pictures of everything I did wrong. That is real convenient, but you never emailed me pictures of anything that went wrong which I asked for repeatedly. How is it you have pictures for everyone else, but not for your paying repeat customer? I pulled my car out of the tuner in atlanta "You know who I am talking about" because you made it seem like it was them. I was coming to you for the expert advice but you kept changing. After all of this I am still a loyal customer giving you more money even though I am offered another block by the tuner in Atlanta that I am mentioning. Honestly if you just fessed up and admitted that possibly you made a mistake we would not be in this situation. I have been dealing with your services since 2005 and I haven't gotten anywhere. You act as if you don't make mistakes like you are a motor god. Let me ask you this Motor God, how do you test these stage motors? When you make a slight change to the build like say from clevite to acl bearings what was your testing process for that? What type of load do you put on the motors when you change things and for how long do you test it before you deem it safe. What type of warranty do you offer on your motors?
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:07 PM   #79
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I guess I just didn't like you, that must be why I didn't tell you.

If I have told every single other customer that runs my cams about the breakin procedure and about the cam AVCS limits, why did I not tell you? Well, it's because I did several times. You just didn't listen. And it's the same with everything else you had going wrong with your engine, I told you but you didn't listen. I think that all the ramblings that you have made in all the posts you have put up more than prove that point.
If I have failed to tell anyone else about these issues, I would have a carbon copy of this thread over and over and over. But somehow I just see this one. And I'm not having cam failures, unlike other cam sources/builders.

You pulled your car away from Topspeed because you were unhappy with your tuning results and unhappy with their service and fees, it wasn't because of my sweet talking you to come to me. You chose me because I was less expensive compared to what they wanted to charge you. Hell, you even made death threats against Doug to me over the phone several times when you were having issues with them. I never not once said anything to the effect that Topspeed were the problem at all. I just listened to your issues, and told you what you were experiencing and gave you a choice. Simple as that.
Doug and I had a good relationship during all of that.

Who said I ever claimed to be a motor god? I've have never, ever said anything like that to anyone as far as I know. But I do know that a hell of a lot of people turn to me for advice about Subaru engines and I happily give it out whether they use it or not. And these people are not just from the US either.

And how did this thread get turned into the same argument that was pretty much explained in the other thread you were running off at the mouth about, when it should be about your over-advanced cam timing. Isnt' that the reason for this failure?

But yap all you want, your are just making things worse for yourself. It's not like I'm worried about loosing customers over this. On the contrary, I'm gaining more customer confidence as now that I have to explain all of this over and over, people clearly see I know what I'm talking about.

I will no longer respond to anything you have to say, regardless of how bad it makes me look. I think everyone that has had to sit here and read past all this crap can clearly see you are trying to hang me out to dry and it's not working. How many responses have you seen in this thread alone that suggests I am the person you are making me out to be. None.

Good day sir,
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Old 02-26-2008, 04:30 PM   #80
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Phil, you really, really shouldn't get involved in this topic. It was obvious that both the tuner and engine builder has no fault in here. Greg should follow the instructions. It is simply an expensive communication problem.
I agree completely...I think we've all seen enough slandering and finger pointing from these two towards eachother already

I'm not going to take sides however as it doesn't involve me and I've never dealt directly with either, and probably never will.

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I think this thread is done.
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