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Old 02-23-2008, 11:09 AM   #1
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Question 2008 WRX Headlight Issue

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Does anyone with the new 2008 WRX have problems with condensation in the headlights? The whole lower portion on the headlight is fogged up and doesn't go away, no matter what the weather is.

Please post if your experiencing this same issue, becuase SOA says this is normal???
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:03 PM   #2
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yes it is normal a lot of the 08 imprezas on our lot are that way
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Old 02-23-2008, 12:48 PM   #3
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^^^^Normal does not = right.
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Old 02-23-2008, 01:35 PM   #4
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^^^^Normal does not = right.
Yup, it does. Subaru even as a TSB out on this VERY concern outlining how the design of the headlamps with vent tubes may in some climates cause condensation to build up in the headlights and tail lights. This concern is normal and they are not going to warranty replacement headlights for this issue as obviously the new ones will only do the same thing.
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:08 PM   #5
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Yeah. It is "normal" but still totally wrong. Basically the TSB states that if you drive the car with the headlights and taillights on for an hour or more and the condnsation does not go away, then they can get replaced under warranty. It is only supposed to happen during major shifts in temperature. So I was told if it keeps happening once it heats back up around here, then I should get them replaced.


Seems to me that the new design is fubar in cold climates and that they don't want to replace a bunch of headlights and taillights with ones they will just have to later. I am just hoping that they replace the design at some point.


P.S. My WRX - Condensation in all of the lenses during the real cold.
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:38 PM   #6
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Yup, it does. Subaru even as a TSB out on this VERY concern outlining how the design of the headlamps with vent tubes may in some climates cause condensation to build up in the headlights and tail lights. This concern is normal and they are not going to warranty replacement headlights for this issue as obviously the new ones will only do the same thing.

"Right" and what what SOA sees fit to call "acceptable/normal" are still two very different things. SOA will still tell you piston slap is "normal" as does General Motors. Piston slap is the result of poor tollorencing, a piston too small for the cylinder bore. SOAs fix if the customer complains enough is to put in .06mm over sized pistons into the standard bore. So if you read between the line SOA is telling you/us it is normal for them to build a poor quality product with loose fitting tollorences.


The moisture in the head lights has happened to many manufactures over the years, none of which have ever done any thing about it. Does it make it right no. Is is a safety issue, could be if the moisture is bad enough and refracting the light beam and not putting it on the road as intended.
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Old 02-23-2008, 03:40 PM   #7
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I had fog in my drivers side light for the first couple af days... But it has not returned, even after washing w/high pressure Btw it was only ever a "light" mist nothing big.
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Old 02-23-2008, 05:39 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the input guys... I guess all the 08 WRX owners are just going to have to accept these poorly designed headlights. Seems to me that Subaru has some bugs to fix for the 08 WRX/STi models... between the condensation in the headlights and the horrible rock chip problems, I think Subaru should really consider revising the 09 models.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:58 PM   #9
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You can still bring it in and have it documented, let the dealer feed the info back to SOA. Not all condensation or fogging is acceptable. Subaru needs to know how much of it is out there.
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Old 02-25-2008, 03:47 PM   #10
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According to SOA it is normal.

According to me, after I disassembled the wifes headlights (to remove the amber) on her 07' Legacy and resealed them with new sealant, the fogging never returned...........


must just be coincidence though.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:10 PM   #11
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I had my 98 Eclipse Up untill september of 07 and right b4 i sold it it started to have that problem
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:53 PM   #12
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Hi,

Does anyone with the new 2008 WRX have problems with condensation in the headlights? The whole lower portion on the headlight is fogged up and doesn't go away, no matter what the weather is.

Please post if your experiencing this same issue, becuase SOA says this is normal???
There is yet another NEW TSB from Subaru for the 08's. I checked Alldata and there is indeed a TSB for your issue. Other people are experiencing it as well... Subaru just doesn't seem to be the car company I thought it was.
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Old 04-24-2008, 06:26 PM   #13
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hmmmm . . . no condensation here, and we've been getting some pretty big temp swings. I'll keep an eye out . . .
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:22 PM   #14
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I wouldn't necessarily say Subaru is going down hill or anything, but the new Impreza is a completly new car and its bound to have some bugs to work out.

Although I can completly understand the frustration new 08 owners are experiencing. I would be extremely upset if I purchased a new car that had a multitude of problems.
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