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Old 02-27-2008, 11:30 AM   #1
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Question Laptop question - sleep or shut down when moving it?

I carry my laptop between home and jobs. Is it better to shut it down or just put it to sleep when packing it away and transporting it to my next destination - 20 minutes by car.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:35 AM   #2
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if the HDD aint moving, it doesn't really matter.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:38 AM   #3
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aod will chime in with something something wife's laptop Vista.

chicken n waffles will respond angrily.

Sleep will recover most quickly, but draws the "most" power.
Hibernate will be faster than booting, but draws no power.
Shutdown will take the longest to recover, and draws no power.

For 20 minutes, sleep would likely be the best option. Mine will move to hibernation if sleep drains too much juice -- but that takes days.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:48 AM   #4
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:49 AM   #5
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One thing to remember is that sleep is still running and therefore needs to regulate it's temperature, I've had laptops overheat when they are sleeping and get thrown into a laptop case, no way for the fan to circulate in there. If they overheat you'll get a blue screen error, saying the temp was too high and the system forced a shutdown.

I've gotten in the habit of always shutting down, how long does it really take to boot up? A couple more minutes? The only driving force for me to hibernate [or sleep] over shutdown is when I have like 20+ applications open and am in the middle of something but need to relocate.

Side Note: I've had data encryption software that doesn't allow machines to hibernate, so I usually had to choose between sleep and shutdown.
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:53 AM   #6
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One thing to remember is that sleep is still running
I though sleep was keeping the RAM state, everything else was off. Interesting, though, that keeping the RAM chips warm would cause an overheat.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:19 PM   #7
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When sleeping the fans on my laptop don't run at all. I can put it into a bag and its fine.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:20 PM   #8
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:21 PM   #9
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One thing to remember is that sleep is still running and therefore needs to regulate it's temperature, I've had laptops overheat when they are sleeping and get thrown into a laptop case, no way for the fan to circulate in there. If they overheat you'll get a blue screen error, saying the temp was too high and the system forced a shutdown.
You sure you're not mixing up sleep mode with just the screen turning off after x # of minutes?

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Old 02-27-2008, 12:56 PM   #10
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My options in XP Professional are Logoff/Shutdown/Restart/Standby. I always go for Standby...actual shutdown/startup is not bad timewise, but logon/logoff is a bitch. My fans don't ever run while in Standby that I've noticed. The computer is always ambient temp when I take it out of the case.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:01 PM   #11
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When sleeping the fans on my laptop don't run at all. I can put it into a bag and its fine.
Yep.

but, we may have newer laptops that have different 'sleep' definitions..
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:06 PM   #12
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Sleep, hibernate or off will all work. Sleep will wake up the fastest, then hibernate, then off (and of course none of your stuff will be open anymore). In sleep the hard drive and fan on every laptop I've used are off, but enough power is provided to the RAM to maintain storage of any data.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:15 PM   #13
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I was referring to standby, with winXP. Standby is simply a low power state, the monitor and harddisk turn off but programs stay running. Usually you won't need your fan running because your processor is sitting idle, but it will kick in if needed.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:26 PM   #14
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I was referring to standby, with winXP. Standby is simply a low power state, the monitor and harddisk turn off but programs stay running. Usually you won't need your fan running because your processor is sitting idle, but it will kick in if needed.
That may sometimes be the case (my old desktop does this) but I think depending on the sleep mode the processor is halted and has been the case with my laptops. Depends on whether it supports ACPI and which standby modes are supported.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:32 PM   #15
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I just close the lid and toss it in my backpack

It gets restarted about once a month.

3 years - no problems.
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Old 02-27-2008, 01:59 PM   #16
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I think it depends on how far you're moving it. If I am going into a conference room or the lab I usually just leave it running but carry it carefully. If I'm leaving the building with it I shut it down to save battery life.

As far as the hard drive goes, if you have a newer Thinkpad you shouldn't have to worry about it so much. They have a safety feature built in which instantly parks the read\write head if too much shock is detected. I'm not sure if any other manufacturers have this feature but I remember that IBM developed this but they did sell their hard drive division to Hitachi so maybe they have the patents for it now. Maybe its a Hitachi thing now but I'm sure IBM would have patented it, they patent everything.
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Old 02-27-2008, 02:15 PM   #17
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> 30-45 minutes before use = sleep
30-45 minutes - 48 hours = hibernate
< 2 days without use = shut down.

at least for me.

I often find it funny when people comment how quick Vista loads for me. I then have to explain the proper use of sleep, hibernation and shut down to people.

One thing MS should have done better, and do better, is promote sleep and hibernate features.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:25 PM   #18
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I just close the lid and toss it in my backpack

It gets restarted about once a month.

3 years - no problems.
+1 except 1.5 years no problems
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:30 PM   #19
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My options in XP Professional are Logoff/Shutdown/Restart/Standby. I always go for Standby...actual shutdown/startup is not bad timewise, but logon/logoff is a bitch. My fans don't ever run while in Standby that I've noticed. The computer is always ambient temp when I take it out of the case.
Hibernate is an option at the "Shut Down Windows" screen, you just press H instead of any of the other options. This is of course assuming that you have Hibernate enabled. I hibernate a lot because it will maintain network connectivity, and I'm too lazy to wait for them to restart when coming out of sleep/standby states.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:33 PM   #20
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i just use standby. My thinkpad will last about 4-5 days in standby mode and will return to windows in about 5 seconds after hitting the power button.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:42 PM   #21
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I hibernate most of the time and shutdown about once a week.
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> 30-45 minutes before use = sleep
30-45 minutes - 48 hours = hibernate
< 2 days without use = shut down.

at least for me.

I often find it funny when people comment how quick Vista loads for me. I then have to explain the proper use of sleep, hibernation and shut down to people.

One thing MS should have done better, and do better, is promote sleep and hibernate features.
I believe you have your > and < backwards there mister.

That is of course unless you shut it down when you will not use it for less than two days, but also will hibernate it if it's more than 30-45 minutes but no more than 2 days without use in addition to putting it to sleep whenever you won't use it for a period of time longer than 30-45 minutes.

Quite confusing really since those all overlap, but one can only surmise that you would by default be using sleep mode if you intend to not use it for more than two days, you will hibernate it if you plan to not use it for exactly two days and for less than two days of no use it will be turned off.
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