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Old 02-29-2008, 12:48 AM   #1
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Default New Record on ICS '08 STI 568 WHP 579 TQ - Thanks Cobb Tuning AP2!

Tonight we were able to finish tuning on the ICS / Dyno Flash '08 Project STI and the results were really suprizing

A few notes on this latest round of tuning

Thanks to Cobb Tuning for rushing through a revisoon to the '08 STI pro tuner so we could raise the grams of air MAF limitation which was holding us back

Also - we crafted a bespoke MAF for the '08 STI to my speifications from a 3.25 " tube designed to accept the unique foot print of the '08 MAF sensor

These two changes gave us the ability to turn up the wick on the tuning and see what the limits of the new turbo / tmic combo are.

Just to note that we continue on PUMP gas and using the Aquamist HFS 1 with two jets to help provide additional charge temp cooling in the tmic.

This was achived at 32 psi of boost




I was very suprized to compare this to my '05 STI with a FMIC and the same GT35 R

The exhuast cam adjustment and ability to adjust it seems to really help spool up and so does the TMIC




Here are the mods on the car and some pics

The modifications on the car are :

Axis Racing Stage II Short block
Perrin GT35 R turbo Kit
Perrin cold air intake with modified ICS MAF tube
Custom 3" dual muffler exhuast
APS TGV deletes
DW 850 Injectors
Walbro fuel pump
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E Boost 2 EBC
Agency Power 4 - 1 header
APS TMIC

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:51 AM   #2
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Numero 1....

Holy@
Beautiful numbers... Congratulations to Dynoflash and ICS Performance.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:52 AM   #3
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Any possibility of a race gas tune? Would be interested to see the number difference.

Just for the heck of it.


Sick numbers, keep it up Al and those at ICS.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:53 AM   #4
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Looks like a lot of fun to drive!
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:59 AM   #5
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Are you going to post it on www.youtube.com so we all can see it live. Fast car george keep it up.

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:03 AM   #6
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al.... We need to work on your picture taking skills
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:05 AM   #7
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Are you going to post it on www.youtube.com so we all can see it live. Fast car george keep it up.

Chris
Thank you, I will get some video footage of her tomorrow sometime. Yes we do have a video of the car. She spools up by 4500rpm with close to 580awt! The runs were made in 3rd gear.. I bet the power and torque would increase abit with a 4rth gear pull.

She looks like she will be a handful. I need to get her to the track sometime this week-end.

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Old 02-29-2008, 01:35 AM   #8
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Oh yes, do that, be nice though.

Congrats on the good results.

Which side of the turbo is the M.A.F on?

On the stock tmic?
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Old 02-29-2008, 02:16 AM   #9
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Oh yes, do that, be nice though.

Congrats on the good results.

Which side of the turbo is the M.A.F on?

On the stock tmic?
The MAF is way down in the inner pass front fender sucking cold air
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:31 AM   #10
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Al, Great numbers, I never expected these kind of results with a stinkin TMIC, all haters beware! This APS unit really does have some great efficiency! Congrats and keep up the good work, bolt up the FMIC and dump in some race gas and see what happens next..

Are you planning on going with a blow thru MAF once you decide to go FMIC or is this new big maf setup sufficient?
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:53 AM   #11
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Very impressive. Nice work
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Old 02-29-2008, 07:56 AM   #12
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If I read that first dyno plot correctly, you get 300 WTQ by 3650 RPM and 400 by 4000RPM? Over 500 WHP from 4500 to redline? Holy cow, batman!

IMO that is a very streetable setup AND a track monster. Watch out EVOs.

Maybe you should also post the typical cost for parts and then parts/ install for this setup as many customers may be interested in replicating it.
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:12 AM   #13
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If I read that first dyno plot correctly, you get 300 WTQ by 3650 RPM and 400 by 4000RPM? Over 500 WHP from 4500 to redline? Holy cow, batman!

IMO that is a very streetable setup AND a track monster. Watch out EVOs.

Maybe you should also post the typical cost for parts and then parts/ install for this setup as many customers may be interested in replicating it.
It should be one hell of a street car! I realy like this car... only one think I hate about this car (well kind of) is that everytime I see Mazda Speed ZOOM.. ZOOM.. ZOOM they look very much alike except for the wheels..LOL Hey it is what it is.


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Old 02-29-2008, 08:28 AM   #14
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Awesome numbers. I bet its a beast.

I think you should start consolidating your threads. I don't see reason for a new thread on the same car everytime you pick up a few more whp though.
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:44 AM   #15
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I call Bs on the dyno numbers . In the video you can clearly see the Control X button on top of the monitor .
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:45 AM   #16
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I call Bs on the dyno numbers . In the video you can clearly see the Control X button on top of the monitor .
LOL...
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:16 AM   #17
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Awesome numbers. I bet its a beast.

I think you should start consolidating your threads. I don't see reason for a new thread on the same car everytime you pick up a few more whp though.
i don't think so...each time is incorporating something new into it..for ex. ...the Cobb which not only is a new tool for the car, its new for the 08, AND they picked up 40 WHP!!
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i don't think so...each time is incorporating something new into it..for ex. ...the Cobb which not only is a new tool for the car, its new for the 08, AND they picked up 40 WHP!!
Which is why it would make more sense to make a thread titled "ICS/ Dynoflash 2008 STI Progress" and keep building in one thread, so all the information/ progress is kept together and updated regularly.

This is the SIXTH thread on their 08 sti.

I'm not arguing against them posting, I want them to, I love it.

I'm just saying keep it in one thread because it makes more sense and doesn't clutter the forum.
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How much did it cost to do this?
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Maybe you should also post the typical cost for parts and then parts/ install for this setup as many customers may be interested in replicating it.
Its probably gonna cost around the same as any other GT35 kit out there. Add $500 to the kits below for the alky injection

$3650 for just the turbo kit
http://www.perrinperformance.com/pro...gory=5&model=2

$6800 for a complete kit
http://www.perrinperformance.com/pro...gory=5&model=2
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:35 AM   #21
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Nice numbers. I think there is some fair weight savings to be had making it a single outlet exhaust...just take off one side where it splits @ the diff.
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:37 AM   #22
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nice power... your reaching that sleeve breaking point... mighta made sense to sleeve it when you replaced it... o wells sick numbers... lets see how high she'll go till they let go
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:44 AM   #23
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DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very Nice!
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:49 AM   #24
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insane power.. congrats on the results! I had no idea it was possible to run that much boost on pump with the aquamist setup! Very impressive! On such a relatively simple setup also!
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Old 02-29-2008, 11:50 AM   #25
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nice power... your reaching that sleeve breaking point... mighta made sense to sleeve it when you replaced it... o wells sick numbers... lets see how high she'll go till they let go
I agree with you.

We do have a Legacy GT customer who is apparently faring very well at about 511 whp on a totally stock bottom end with Aquamist and pump gas but I thing that is the limit on what any rational person should aim for without fortifications.

I would like to try and convince George to have our head guy do a porting job on the head alobng with .5 mm over sized valves. I would expect that to give us some significant power gains up top and allow us to run slight less boost to reach the same number.

Also - I am looking forward to seeing some performance cams released for this new STI motor.

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