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Old 02-29-2008, 01:31 AM   #1
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Legacy 2.2l SOHC legacy L Horrible condition... Need all the help I can get...

Ok. so my problem is my car is running really really bad. I have a inop speedo, a cyl 1 misfire, 4250rpm limit when it warms up, horrible gas milage (2-8mpg), its ticking pretty loudly (could be a knock), and it had 164k before the speedo went out (mind you it went out before I bought the car).

So when I bought the car, the previous owner bought it straight off the lot. Then it broke down, he thought it was too expensive to fix so he left it in a parking lot for 3 years. I bought the car for a total of $200 and it didn't start. Replaced fuel pump and strainer and it ran.

Too bad I didn't have my license yet so I had to wait a month till I could take the test. Passed driving test. Drove it for a little over a month... then washed engine compartment, wouldnt start.... So I replaced the coilpack, plugs, and wires, it runs again but now it has a mis in cyl 1, and it wouldnt even stay running. So I tightened the throttle cable, just enough to make it idle around 500.

I bought the car in october started driving it in november and killed it on christmas... then it got fixed around january 12. I've only had the car for a good 4-5 months and it's my first car so I really want to keep the car and need all the help I can get. And the only CEL's I'm getting are VSS1 no contact and misfire cyl 1.

thank you for any help you may provide.
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Old 02-29-2008, 01:38 AM   #2
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:56 AM   #3
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For 200.00 I say keep it. You aren't going to make money selling it, and the misfire could be a bad sparkplug gap or one not tight enough.(don't go too tight though!) VSS1 error could be water in the connector or it just needs to be reseated.

Any car, even one that runs poorly is worth more to the owner than what anyone will give you for it.

Did you reset the codes after changing things around?

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Old 02-29-2008, 11:56 AM   #4
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200 dollars sounds like a keeper to me as well. Just don't let it become a money pit where you will end up spending 3,000 dollars in parts and realize you could have bought a great running car!
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:10 PM   #5
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What year is the car?

First thing I'd do is check the timing belt.
Second thing I'd do is a compression test.
Third thing I'd do is a leakdown test.

That should tell you the exact condition of the engine.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:18 PM   #6
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The car is a 1996 leg l.

thanks for the ideas. and all the plugs have been gapped and they arent fouled so I really dont think its the ignition.

I'm thinking about getting a new fuel pressure regulator set. does that sound like a resonable idea?

I had the codes checked and reset after wards at my school (Francis Tuttle, I'm in the Automotive class). I also changed the oil when I replaced those parts.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:33 PM   #7
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Your BEST bet is to spend $60 and have the car troubleshooted by a mechanic, instead of throwing parts at the damn thing.
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:02 PM   #8
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Maybe a Subaru guru from the board could stop by and do a quick look see?

I am in Cali, a bit far.
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Old 02-29-2008, 04:02 PM   #9
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^+1 had the same decision with my old 97 VW VR6
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Old 02-29-2008, 05:12 PM   #10
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I go to Francis Tuttle Technology Center here in Oklahoma, and we did a couple of things to it. But to no avail. We also tested it through a SOLUS and a MODUS scanner. I haven't gotten time to do a compression test or leakage test on it yet so that is my next thing to try.

By the way, at FT, all we do is fix cars and my teacher has been working on them for 27 years so I trust he knows what he's doing.

I have also heard that the cam and crank sensors might cause these problems. Anyone know about that
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Old 02-29-2008, 09:40 PM   #11
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I go to Francis Tuttle Technology Center here in Oklahoma, and we did a couple of things to it. But to no avail. We also tested it through a SOLUS and a MODUS scanner. I haven't gotten time to do a compression test or leakage test on it yet so that is my next thing to try.

By the way, at FT, all we do is fix cars and my teacher has been working on them for 27 years so I trust he knows what he's doing.

I have also heard that the cam and crank sensors might cause these problems. Anyone know about that

Well **** the scantool didnt fix it? Go figure!!
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:05 PM   #12
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check timing belt and components, comp. test, leakdown test. Check mechanicals first then move onto electrical. A misfire can be caused by many things. A bad coil, a burned valve, low cylinder compression, etc.....

If you are considering replacing the fuel pressure regulator than you must have tested your fuel pressure right? What was it?

Somebody tell me what vss1 no contact means.

So far you've told us twice that you are going to automotive school. That's great. Learn how to be a mechanic, not just a parts replacer. If you don't want to follow advice or if your teacher thinks it's bad advice then you should not ask for advice.

Call up a salvage yard and ask how much a motor is for your car. If you think you'll throw at least that much at it then just replace the thing. It's ticking anyway right?
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Old 03-01-2008, 02:02 AM   #13
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Well you put it pretty nicely... I'm thinking about replacing the motor but there isn't anywhere I can even find a motor for it. subaru's in salvage yards arent that common here. thats the only reason I'm throwing parts on it. and I don't have access to an ebay account so I cant buy one there.
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