I Hate My Clutch

[GreenLantern]

I have on my 07 WRX TR an ACT 6 puck clutch and streetlight flywheel.
I've loved it so much until recently since ive been having some problems

I have been having some weird problems with my clutch.
On launches, i'll do like normal but now my clutch slips so much even after my foot is completely off the petal. it takes it a little into first gear for my clutch to fully engage. it sucks because this pretty much kills my launch.

Also, a few weeks back
I was driving along, i pulled onto a main road and when i pressed the gas down to get some acceleration,
around 3500rpm or maybe 4000 (i don't remember i didn't pay much attention because i was so weirded out) my clutch started slipping (thats what it felt like) and there was gear chatter going on also until i let off the gas. So i let off and went back to cruising at 3k. Then i tried to get back into it and it happened again. I shifted and it still happened. so far in the life of my clutch this happened only twice (once to me a few weeks ago and then again to kaldar142 when we switched cars for the afternoon not to long ago)
i don't know exactly what the sequence of events were with kaldar but does
anyone know what is going on???

Thanks
-GL

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[MasterKwan]

You need a new clutch?

[scooby2.0t]

How many miles are on the clutch? Also did you follow the break in process?

[subz]

haha i def feel a tranny breaking on this guys 07 .. hope u have that piggy bank rolling in dough man

[GreenLantern]

i thought theres no break in period on the ACT 6 puck? its ceramatalic and somewhere i read it doesn't need break in. it has about 15000 on it im so blown if i have to replace it.
anyone know whats up?
yeah, i already know my tranny is doomed im prepared for it
thanks
-GL

[Steve Nastoff]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

i thought theres no break in period on the ACT 6 puck? its ceramatalic and somewhere i read it doesn't need break in. it has about 15000 on it im so blown if i have to replace it.
anyone know whats up?
yeah, i already know my tranny is doomed im prepared for it
thanks
-GL

This thread reminds me of the old Samsonite commercials with the Gorilla and the suitcase. I think that you have killed the suitcase.

[Daniel's05WRX]

Originally Posted by Steve Nastoff

This thread reminds me of the old Samsonite commercials with the Gorilla and the suitcase. I think that you have killed the suitcase.

the gorilla that killed the tranny, now we just need soa to endorse it...

[GreenLantern]

anyone have an idea about why my clutch is dead then?? after only 15k miles??

[hybrid gti 2]

dead clutch.

why? maybe your driving style

[Rickyh]

Sorry, but you ruined the clutch. It is your driving. It is not the clutches fault.

[GreenLantern]

isn't it a racing clutch? shouldn't it be able to withstand some abuse? abuse along the lines of racing??
it doesn't seem to make much sense

also, what do i need to replace? just the disc? flywheel? pressure plate?
what do you all recommend for the gorilla ?

[sluflyer06]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

isn't it a racing clutch? shouldn't it be able to withstand some abuse? abuse along the lines of racing??
it doesn't seem to make much sense

pucked clutches get destroyed in a daily driver b/c you have to slip them alot more to come off the line smooth, they also have less friction material than a full face(aka shorter life). I'd say its not un-common to see short clutch life from a 6 puck in a street car.

Why did you buy a 6 puck? Are you pushing 400wtq or more? I'm still on my original clutch with 34K miles and I've been making >350wtq for over a year and its still rock solid.

Also, a 6 puck will annihilate the 5 speed, so def. make sure you can afford to fix it in the somewhat near future. And thats really not a overstatement, how many miles do you have on your car?

[Tony_Montana87]

you never should have never boughten a 6 puck clutch. full face is better

[GreenLantern]

so what do you think i should get for my daily? I do quite a bit of spirited driving so, would the full face PERFORMANCE - SS suit my needs or does that as well have the short life span?or is the MODIFIED - MM a better choice? Do i just need to replace the disk only and get my flywheel resurfaced and still use the same pressure plate?
i like the way my car engages with the six puck but i definitely don't like the idea of replacing the clutch every 15k miles or so, so i was wondering what you all recommend?

another thing i was wondering was,
my car drives fine right now. i only notice the slipping problems when i launch it. do you all think the clutch is pretty much dead? or, do you think that resurfacing my flywheel will help my problem?
thanks for helping the noob
-GL

[MasterKwan]

I bought an ACT HD clutch. It has 2700 lbs of clamping force. I believe stock is 1900 or so. Uses a full face organic disk.

http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merch...gory_Code=1206

I like it. It engages near the floor instead of near the top. It's as smooth as a stock clutch and the pedal pressure is only slightly higher than stock.

[GreenLantern]

I got an 07 man

and, i already have the pressure plate man from my 6 puck

[yut_to_that]

first of all your talking about your launches. That means that you must drive the car hard and i wouldn't expect the clutch to last that long if your launching it alot anyways.

[MasterKwan]

http://www.oakos.com/Merchant2/merch...gory_Code=1207

Duh, they make one for the 06/07 too. If you're going to switch the clutch, you ought to swap out the whole thing.

[evo 3ater]

they dont need a break in period with cerametalic... but 15k miles is good considering daily driving which is not meant for them at all... mine went after 1500.... but i get it repucked with kevlar to have it better for daily driving conditions good luck

[GreenLantern]

evo eater, how long does your repucked last you? hows it drive? and who does the repucking? thanks
-GL

[Tech@ACT]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

i thought theres no break in period on the ACT 6 puck? its ceramatalic and somewhere i read it doesn't need break in. it has about 15000 on it im so blown if i have to replace it.
anyone know whats up?

Originally Posted by evo 3ater

they dont need a break in period with cerametalic... but 15k miles is good considering daily driving which is not meant for them at all... mine went after 1500.... but i get it repucked with kevlar to have it better for daily driving conditions good luck

I'm not sure where either of you got that information, but all clutch discs need to have a break in period and we include the instructions for doing so on the yellow pamphlet that we include in EVERY new clutch sold. The recommended break in period for all of of our clutches is 200-300 miles of street driving. On our puck discs this can be accelerated by doing a few hard slips to lap the surfaces prior to use being careful to allow it to cool between slips. No clutch organic or puck style should be overheated = read slipped excessively, especially during break in.

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

so what do you think i should get for my daily? I do quite a bit of spirited driving so, would the full face PERFORMANCE - SS suit my needs or does that as well have the short life span?or is the MODIFIED - MM a better choice? Do i just need to replace the disk only and get my flywheel resurfaced and still use the same pressure plate?
i like the way my car engages with the six puck but i definitely don't like the idea of replacing the clutch every 15k miles or so, so i was wondering what you all recommend?

another thing i was wondering was,
my car drives fine right now. i only notice the slipping problems when i launch it. do you all think the clutch is pretty much dead? or, do you think that resurfacing my flywheel will help my problem?
thanks for helping the noob
-GL

Unless you are making in excess of 420 ft. lbs of torque at the flywheel on your car (or it's a race car) there is no reason for you to be using a puck style disc. Our MM disc (the only organic one offered for your car) combined with our HD pressure plate is rated at 420 ft. lbs.

Keep in mind that whilst we do list it is a race disc because of the engagement and accelerated wear it can cause on drivetrain parts if abused, the longevity of any clutch is determined by the initial quality of the parts used and the driver. If you're the type that leaves every traffic light with all 4 wheels lit up it's likely that you'll either be buying lots of clutches or saving up for transmissions and axles etc. Clutches like brakes and tires are wear items, the more they are used or abused the shorter the life span.

If your clutch is slipping only when you launch it, I would think it's because you are slipping the clutch excessively and overheating it. If you've done this often enough there is a good chance that you've warped the pressure plate and or flywheel. Depending on how much the parts were overheated resurfacing your flywheel will most likely not solve your problem.

Read the posts below regarding Kevlar pucks originally posted by ACTMAN the president/owner and head or R & D at ACT and make your decision from there. http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ghlight=actman

If you truly feel that you have a defective product please contact our sales/tech department at 661-940-7555 between 7:45 - 4:30 PST and ask for Dean. He will issue a RGA # to you and have you send it in to be examined and tested. If is is a manufacturing defect we'll take care of it, if it isn't .......well we won't .