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Old 04-16-2008, 05:50 PM   #51
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That is what I'm trying to determine here.... what is a "push" type flywheel? If it says "93-01" impreza than that would probably mean its "push" right? You stated the second flywheel I posted wasn't "strong enough" so I'm trying to figure out why not, and if so then I'd have to go with a streetlite, right? Mine has already been surfaced before and they took quite a lot off. I don't want to surface it again. If I can get a stock style that is lighter then I will go for that. If not then if I HAVE to get a streetlite or fidanza in order to get anything lighter, that will be the route. I think my original flywheel weighs a little over 20 lbs.

stock style, supposedly 18lbs:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...172377601&rd=1

another stock style, suppossedly 16lbs
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act streetlite, 14 lbs:
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:24 PM   #52
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mm...remove the whole notion of flywheel being stroung enough that is not an issue

the Third (not second) flywheel you posted was an oem-like flywheel .. i mistakenly though it was a oem clutch

oem push clutch is not strong enough any push flywheel is fine

stock is 24 lbs i have shipped them
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:40 PM   #53
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mm...remove the whole notion of flywheel being stroung enough that is not an issue

the Third (not second) flywheel you posted was an oem-like flywheel .. i mistakenly though it was a oem clutch

oem push clutch is not strong enough any push flywheel is fine

stock is 24 lbs i have shipped them
-In my first clutch and flywheel post the second flywheel I posted (third item) is the oem type. The first item was a clutch, second item/first flywheel was an act, third item/second clutch was an oem type.
So then I don't have to worry about a regular oem type assploding then? As long as its in good condition of course. I'm trying to verify the exact weight of the dorman clutch in my previous post, 16lbs steel would be great. If not I'll probably just go with the streetlite. The seller of the first "oem type" flywheel isn't responding to my questions about the exact weight and manufacturer even though it says its exedy.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:34 PM   #54
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jesus!

u must not get what he said.

get ANY push style awd flywheel. (its what comes on NA subarus. and no, just because its on an NA subaru, it does not mean an aftermarket push style wont hold the power)

THEN get an ACT street clutch for a push style transmission. (according to jaxx, it will hold fine)

now, guess what car is NA? a 2.5 RS. just get a freaking aftermarket flywheel and clutch that will fit a 2.5rs (and hold the power, ie the ACT clutch) and youre good to go, its not complicated.

most annoying swap thread ever......
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:29 AM   #55
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jesus!

u must not get what he said.

get ANY push style awd flywheel. (its what comes on NA subarus. and no, just because its on an NA subaru, it does not mean an aftermarket push style wont hold the power)

THEN get an ACT street clutch for a push style transmission. (according to jaxx, it will hold fine)

now, guess what car is NA? a 2.5 RS. just get a freaking aftermarket flywheel and clutch that will fit a 2.5rs (and hold the power, ie the ACT clutch) and youre good to go, its not complicated.

most annoying swap thread ever......
NO, I didn't get what he said when he referred to the oem cheap flywheel not being "strong enough". After he replied saying it didn't matter and that he thought the link was for a clutch, I understood that part. He misunderstood me, therefore I misunderstood him, get a grip. Just because you may understand the details because maybe you've already dealt with them doesn't mean you have to start "e" yelling in this thread.
Now to the part you don't seem to understand. I'm trying to avoid buying the most expensive lightest freaking flywheel ever and instead buy something a little lighter than stock, if possible. I would like to retain around 16-18lbs or so on the flywheel because I plan on getting a solid aluminum crank pulley and don't want the combined weight loss to throw a cel. If I can find one in that range, I'm going to ask questions to help find one. If you don't have anything helpful to post, why not post somewhere else? I started this thread to learn some things and show my painstakingly slow progress, not to start a cockfest.

Btw, small update. I am ordering the original sti version mls headgaskets but it will take almost a month to get them. I just hope they are the correct ones this time around.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:06 AM   #56
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Buy a flywheel for an NA Subaru post 1993, same setup as far as clutch goes but obviously something along the lines of an ACT street disc with a higher clamping force plate.
Clutchmasters has some pretty good pricing on light flywheels right now.

As for headgaskets, if you want Cometic, a C4261-051 should work just fine in your case.

If you get away from shopping on sleazebay and patronize some real brick and mortar shops you just might receive some customer service as well.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:16 AM   #57
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Btw, small update. I am ordering the original sti version mls headgaskets but it will take almost a month to get them. I just hope they are the correct ones this time around.
One month? I could have them there in 5 days if you want me to do the favor for you. Subaru is a 20 minute drive and if you want the JDM OEM I could give you a hand.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:35 AM   #58
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Buy a flywheel for an NA Subaru post 1993, same setup as far as clutch goes but obviously something along the lines of an ACT street disc with a higher clamping force plate.
Clutchmasters has some pretty good pricing on light flywheels right now.

As for headgaskets, if you want Cometic, a C4261-051 should work just fine in your case.

If you get away from shopping on sleazebay and patronize some real brick and mortar shops you just might receive some customer service as well.
Haha, sleazebay. Haven't heard that one. I decided on an oem jdm sti gasket, everyone started telling me bad things about the cometics AFTER I decided to order them. The oem ones were a litle more but hopefully worth it. The old ones from the ej20k looked like good quality. If anyone has bad things to say about the oem mls ones, speak now or forever hold your peace, lol.

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One month? I could have them there in 5 days if you want me to do the favor for you. Subaru is a 20 minute drive and if you want the JDM OEM I could give you a hand.
Well its actually two to four weeks, I just figure a month to be on the safe side. From rallispec. The price wasn't bad if they are the correct p/n. I asked for the 11044AA463, they told me it would be special order from Japan.
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...combined weight loss to throw a cel.
how on earth would that happen?

where was i "e-yelling"? no exclamations, only bold to emphasize that you can use any awd na flywheel, regardless of wieght, price ect. you just arent taking the advice of people that have done this before, and making a thread full of worthless banter.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:31 PM   #60
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Well its actually two to four weeks, I just figure a month to be on the safe side. From rallispec. The price wasn't bad if they are the correct p/n. I asked for the 11044AA463, they told me it would be special order from Japan.
Rallispec is great, but I just ordered a few things from them in January and they just got here last week.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:22 PM   #61
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I agree the whole last bit is getting old, but at the same time I know how it feels to know nothing and try to do it right by asking about something over and over and over again. I spent two weeks double and triple checking my wiring so I wouldn't blow up anything.
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what car you gonna drop that into?
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:38 AM   #63
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wow nice piece, keep up the good work, Whats your completion date??
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wow nice piece, keep up the good work, Whats your completion date??
Haha, wish I knew. I just got the timing belt and pulleys today. Still waiting on a reply from rallispec about my headgaskets. It could be a few more months... but I hope not.
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:22 PM   #66
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This is supposed to be a legacy gt turbo transmission but it looks just like mine in the bellhousing. I thought the turbo subarus have the "pull type" clutch, this one has the small pivot just like mine. ?????

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-...spagenameZWDVW
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:49 PM   #67
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Those pictures sort of suck, but not only is the price higher than I would pay for a 6 speed it looks like an NA mission. I need better picture to tell for sure.
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:54 PM   #68
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well... you fond the exception the 05+ lgts have a push clutch and an internal spring dampened flywheel.. and no speed sensor
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well... you fond the exception the 05+ lgts have a push clutch and an internal spring dampened flywheel.. and no speed sensor
But the flywheel and pressure plate are different from the older push type so in order to use a transmission like this I would need to change to the flywheel and clutch kit designed for it, correct? On the ACT site the part numbers for the pressure plate, disc, and flywheel are all different from the early push type like mine. I didn't check the throwout bearing part number.
Regardless, for that price I'd rather get a wrx 5 speed and put stronger gears in. If I was loaded I'd go for the 6 speed.
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different parts yes
no you don't want it ... no speed sensor
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Does anyone know what these weird shaped gaskets are for? They came in my gasket kit, there are four. Maybe for two piece intake manifolds?

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I also noticed this shrunken excuse for an oring on the pickup tube flange. It really needs to be thicker and isn't like most gaskets that are typically swollen after being exposed to engine oil for a long period of time. Luckily there is a substantially thicker oring from the gasket kit I will be using. The other one goes almost to the edge of the pickup flange channel and clears the flange by a good amount. This oring isn't even flat, its just way too thin. I personally would have never used this size. With the potential level of vacumm at this flange, I don't want any air getting sucked in and causing problems.



Here's a pic with it pulled up.


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Old 04-25-2008, 04:28 AM   #73
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Does anyone know what these weird shaped gaskets are for? They came in my gasket kit, there are four. Maybe for two piece intake manifolds?

Those are the valve cover gaskets that surround the spark plug holes. Who did you get that gasket kit from? I also don't see the plastic pieces that are shaped like a semi-circle included in your gasket kit. There are 4 on each head.
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Those are the valve cover gaskets that surround the spark plug holes. Who did you get that gasket kit from? I also don't see the plastic pieces that are shaped like a semi-circle included in your gasket kit. There are 4 on each head.

The ones under the one I circled are for the spark plug hole seals. This kit has every gasket and oring I needed except for the large oring on the oil cooler. If you're talking about those thick half-round pieces that are glued to the head, I'm just going to remove them and clean and reattach them with some ultra grey slicone. They aren't damaged.
I may change the orings for the injectors, but they are in very tight and I'm worried about damaging them. I can get those orings easily though.
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Hmmm, I've seen those gaskets, but I'd have to pul my head apart to be sure if they aren't the spark plug seals.
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