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Old 03-20-2008, 05:46 AM   #1
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Default Is anyone buying the new STI or EVO10?

First let me state I'm in Sydney, Australia.
I have yet to see a single new shape STI or EVO 10 on the road.

I know the sti got pretty bad reviews in most of the local mags as far as value for money.
I still would have thought I'd have seen one by now.....

Maybe the fact that the shape has already been updated by mazda with the new mx6 has left the subaru looking old ????
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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A lot of STI's are being sold, not sure on Evo X
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:21 AM   #3
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we have an evolution X at our mistu. dealer.
it hasnt moved, i know alot are looking but i dont think they are having test pilots.

there is about 15 08 STi's at subaru in tampa,FL
and about 10 or so at SOJAX
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:33 AM   #4
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we have an evolution X at our mistu. dealer.
it hasnt moved, i know alot are looking but i dont think they are having test pilots.
I bet because the dealer mark up I hear on the EXO X's is a joke.

The new EVO is hot looking though...so much more so than the 08 STI.



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Old 03-20-2008, 09:42 AM   #5
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I bet because the dealer mark up I hear on the EXO X's is a joke.

The new EVO is hot looking though...so much more so than the 08 STI.




have you seen the test track video?

the EVO X, the transmission had alot of troubles.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:43 AM   #6
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have you seen the test track video?

the EVO X, the transmission had alot of troubles.
Where did you get that? Thats an out there statement
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:45 AM   #7
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Where did you get that? Thats an out there statement
tsukubu video of the 06 07 and 08 STi vs EVO 9 MR, EVO X manual and the EVO X w/ paddle shifter and all that.

it started overheating and wouldnt shift, its on here sumwhere.
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:55 AM   #8
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tsukubu video of the 06 07 and 08 STi vs EVO 9 MR, EVO X manual and the EVO X w/ paddle shifter and all that.

it started overheating and wouldnt shift, its on here sumwhere.
Why the heck would anyone get the stupid paddle shifter anyway?



I'll take the 5 speed manual thank you very much.
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Old 03-20-2008, 10:00 AM   #9
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Seeing a vehicle on the road isn't a valid way of proving sales numbers.
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:35 AM   #10
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I bought one (not fail). Took about a month to get the one I wanted (colour). They're selling fairly well here in Canada.

We just had our auto show here too, so I went to Mitsu to check out the competition. Nice enough car, but the design is not for me (wanted a wagon / hatch). Also, a weird void at the back of the engine bay. Trunk is small because of wiper fluid and battery being back there, which also means no pass-through (as far as I could tell). They were also very very insistent on telling us that yes there was an indeed a hatch version on the way (a couple salesfolks told us this several times). Even still, after sitting in EVO I stand by my decision. All that said, there are a couple of them on the road around here, and on our local forums, and those folks are saying they're really enjoying their rides.

Mine (w/ winters and ski-trip dirt)


EVO @ Show

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Old 03-20-2008, 11:43 AM   #11
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I was prepared to get a 2008 STi, but decided to keep my '05 for the following reasons, in order of importance:

1. Little to no performance improvement over MY2005
2. I like the overall appearance of the 2005 better
3. My '05 is nearly paid for
4. My '05 is nicely modified
5. Hate the SI Drive and traction control (wife's '08 OBXT has them)

These detractors could not overcome the positive items:
1. Much improved interior
2. LOVE the hatch
3. Nice gains seen on stage II '08s
4. New car smell
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Old 03-20-2008, 11:48 AM   #12
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I'm glad people are happy with their 08 STIs and all...

...but $40,000 for something that looks like a Focus is just not my cup of tea.





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Old 03-20-2008, 11:50 AM   #13
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@T-WRX- I came from a '98 Corolla, so I didn't have these reasons, hehe. What a difference! Agree with your positive items too.
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Old 03-20-2008, 12:45 PM   #14
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I'm glad people are happy with their 08 STIs and all...

...but $40,000 for something that looks like a Focus is just not my cup of tea.


Thanks for the pictars. We had no idea that the Focus was also available as a hatchback

Why don't you post up some pictures of how the Evo X resemble a Volvo S40?
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:01 PM   #15
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Thanks for the pictars. We had no idea that the Focus was also available as a hatchback
4 door hatchback even.



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Why don't you post up some pictures of how the Evo X resemble a Volvo S40?
I have no problem with a car resembling an S40 Volvo, but not a freaking Ford Focus.





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Old 03-20-2008, 02:16 PM   #16
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4 door hatchback even.





I have no problem with a car resembling an S40 Volvo, but not a freaking Ford Focus.


Kind of ironic, then, that the Volvo S40 shares a platform with the second generation Focus (which only became available in the US this year), and also the Mazda3. But of course, we are speaking of design, not engineering, so I guess that's a moot point.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:22 PM   #17
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the wife bought an 08. waiting for it to arrive.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:27 PM   #18
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I have to admit, the new EVO and Volvo pictured in this thread does a better job of looking like a classic GC Impreza than the current STI. Engineering-wise, the new STI is light years ahead of the old chassis, but the looks just didn't follow along. It took 6 years for me like the bugeye .
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:34 PM   #19
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As mentioned, anecdotal stories of "I haven't seen them on the road" does not mean these cars aren't selling.

The Evo X is not marked up, especially if you look in the right places. In Socal, South Coast Mitsubishi (a store that sells to customers from Hawaii, Alaska, Canada, East Coast) is selling base Xs for $29,999.

And I can't believe this has still managed to turn itself into an Evo vs STI thread.

Yes, the Evo X looks great in pictures. Have you seen one in person? Cheap looking, I think is the phrase that I'm looking for.

The exhaust hangs like it's about to fall off. The spoiler is plastic and the black material is clearly visible. The "vents" behind the front wheel wells are also black plastic. It looks like material from Home Depot. The interior dash is no better than my Scion XB's (go ahead and flame; this is my temporary ride just before I purchase another car)--there is a sea of cheap, black plastic.

The drivability and clutch, although improved from the IX's, is still somewhat unlivable for daily driving purposes. The clutch grabs too high and the patented Mitsubishi "pause" between shifting gears and stepping on the gas still exists. For anyone who loves to drive manual cars, this is an especially annoying facet for any car. All the magazine writers who vote for the Evo do so based on track usage, not daily usage. These guys don't have to actually live with the car every day.

Finally, please look for all the issues that Evo X owners are experiencing from DAY ONE. The gears are notchy and many X owners complain of GRINDING on a brand new, $30,000 car! In true Mitsubishi form, there are also plenty of electronic problems such as Xs that don't start, Xs that stall, Xs with erratic idling, so on and so forth.

As has been the tradition of Mitsubishi and the coveted Lancer Evolution, Mitsubishi has once again produced a high performance car that is a gamble from day one.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:45 PM   #20
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At a few local car meets, so far this year I've seen 3 EVO X's, but am yet to see a new '08 STI?!? I've sat in the new STI at a dealership, but still have not seen one driving around town or at a meet... which is weird, as this is Colorado, "Home of the Subaru" lol.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:46 PM   #21
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First let me state I'm in Sydney, Australia.
I have yet to see a single new shape STI or EVO 10 on the road.

I know the sti got pretty bad reviews in most of the local mags as far as value for money.
I still would have thought I'd have seen one by now.....

Maybe the fact that the shape has already been updated by mazda with the new mx6 has left the subaru looking old ????
If you pick up a copy of the March edition Road&Track you will find the cover-page and main article is the STI vs EVO in a "bang for the buck" battle, --SPOILER-- the STI wins.
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Old 03-20-2008, 02:52 PM   #22
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As mentioned, anecdotal stories of "I haven't seen them on the road" does not mean these cars aren't selling.
hopefully I'm not one of the offenders. LOL.

My comment on the STIs was that my dealership experience led me to believe they were selling fairly well, which is backed up by a few folks on the local forum already having them. Same deal for the EVOs, there's a few folks on the local forums with them already, but haven't seen one in person besides the car show. Hopefully will see one at a meet soon.

In Canada, Subaru has a bit of a rep and a background, whereas the EVO is the 'new kid on the block', inciting a bit of new excitement.
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:03 PM   #23
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If you pick up a copy of the March edition Road&Track you will find the cover-page and main article is the STI vs EVO in a "bang for the buck" battle, --SPOILER-- the STI wins.
The articles of value for money were based on a number of different vehicles, it was not an sti v's evo thing.
It may be so that the sti is better than the evo but it falls a long way short in comparison to some other european cars on the market that cost about the same (and its not all based on outright straight line performance).
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Old 03-20-2008, 03:17 PM   #24
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There's a number here in Calgary... I know of at least 4... our local dealers we getting 23 IIRC.
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I have to admit, the new EVO and Volvo pictured in this thread does a better job of looking like a classic GC Impreza than the current STI. Engineering-wise, the new STI is light years ahead of the old chassis, but the looks just didn't follow along.
Good point, I totally agree.

I've never ragged on the engineering or ability of the 2008 STI (although I've heard/read the suspension is a little on the soft side & that no Recaro seats or leather available)...it's just that it looks so plain Jane to me. $40,000 should at least buy you a cool looking car. Where's the original Subaru pizazz? Give it some really blistered fenders at least. This is what the 2008 STI should have looked like:



Or even this:



At least the concept STI looks like a $40,000 car...with 2 doors for God's sake!
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