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Old 03-21-2008, 02:02 PM   #1
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My budget is $5000.00 to start with to include sway bars, springs, endlinks, and the rest is engine mods. The car will be used for a daily driver and every now and then 1/4 mile fun. I got a local shop to give me an estimate of what they thought the best bang for my buck would be and this what they came up with. Let me know what you think.

Borla Header
Borla Cat Back
HKS Downpipe
Cobb Accessport
Urethane Exhaust Hangers
Cobb Uppipe
Cobb Swaybar Front and Rear
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It isn't $5000.00 total but its close to it.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:05 PM   #2
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My budget is $5000.00 to start with to include sway bars, springs, endlinks, and the rest is engine mods. The car will be used for a daily driver and every now and then 1/4 mile fun. I got a local shop to give me an estimate of what they thought the best bang for my buck would be and this what they came up with. Let me know what you think.

Borla Header
Borla Cat Back
HKS Downpipe
Cobb Accessport
Urethane Exhaust Hangers
Cobb Uppipe
Cobb Swaybar Front and Rear
Cobb Springs
Endlinks
Go Fast Bits 3 Piece Pulley Set
Tuning for 3 Hours

It isn't $5000.00 total but its close to it.
Hks Downpipe is not bellmouth. Get an invidia or helix around the same price. More flow= more power! you really don't need the pulley set either.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:14 PM   #3
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Personally I don't think I'd do the pulley set or the header. That would free up some money to either do an EWG uppipe and keep the HKS down, or I'd save a few more bucks for a 20G, Green, Dom 3.0 or whatever turbo best fits your needs. Looking back over things - I didn't see anything about an upgraded fuel pump or injectors, so you might want to make an investment there as well.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:36 PM   #4
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what kind of car and what year?
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:57 PM   #5
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Sorry should of posted that. Its an 05 STI.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:10 PM   #6
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Ditch the uppipe, 05 STis have a catless uppipe so its not a necessary mod. Secondly get rid of the HKS downpipe, unless your planning on running an external wastegate. Pickup either a Cobb, Invidia, or Helix unit instead. All three are bellmouth designs which will provide better flow and more power. The pulleys are also waste of money, so knock those off your list as well. For the header, I would go with either a Gruppe-S or GT-Spec unequal length design. I've heard that the Borlas are prone to cracking.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your build.
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Old 03-21-2008, 03:24 PM   #7
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if i were you ill get 20g injectors tgv deletes inlet fuel pump and tune!!!(with ap2) cause i have one^^
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:10 PM   #8
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unless you want the springs for looks, you probably can ditch them and keep the stock ones, and just upgrade the sway bars.. This should make a noticeable handling improvement.
I also agree with everyone else.. about the headers and hks downpipe.
If you do some bargain shopping you can save a lot of money buy purchasing things used through out the forum. Which should stretch your budget pretty far.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:28 PM   #9
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Ditch the uppipe, 05 STis have a catless uppipe so its not a necessary mod. Secondly get rid of the HKS downpipe, unless your planning on running an external wastegate. Pickup either a Cobb, Invidia, or Helix unit instead. All three are bellmouth designs which will provide better flow and more power. The pulleys are also waste of money, so knock those off your list as well. For the header, I would go with either a Gruppe-S or GT-Spec unequal length design. I've heard that the Borlas are prone to cracking.

Hope this helps. Good luck with your build.
this is not true^^

an upipe is a great way to pick up some extra horses... swapping to an aftermarket upipe on an sti yeilds a a minimum of 5whp... for the price of an uppipe thats not to bad... might as well if your getting headers.

here's a discussion on it...

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/engine-p...ious-look.html
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:38 PM   #10
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Ditch the cobb springs, they are too low and will make your car handle worse.
Unless you just care about looks.
The best performance springs are the sti pinks
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:55 PM   #11
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I want the springs for performance not lowering. I do want a slightly lowered stance but not laying on the ground or anything.
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Old 03-21-2008, 04:56 PM   #12
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If you are not upgrading the turbo than there are a lot of mods you have there that will really not give you a whole lot for the money you spend on them. Your mistake was telling them you have 5000 to spend so they are going to try to get it all from you. Like stated above I would look for an STI up pipe used for really cheap. I would also skip the pulley kit as well. Without changing the turbo I have never seen anyone prove that the HKS down pipe is any less efficient then any other design so those of you who made that claim get to searching to show people proof before posting things. They can be found for under 100 used. I think the Cobb springs are a little low too. I had Espelir GT springs on my old bugeye and loved them. Suspension and catback I would choose after going to the next meet you find locally and ask for rides and hear different setups All in all you have a good start but really have to prioritize. I think if you skip the header and pulley kit you will give up 10-20 hp at the wheels but save a 1000 bucks. That money could be used for some nice shocks to go with your springs or even some cheap coilovers instead of springs. I would choose suspension over 10 hp just because I would use and feel it more an a daily basis. Remember once you start modding you will always be left wanting more power but get the suspension right the first time around and you will enjoy it for the rest of the time you own the car. Anyway good luck.
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Old 03-22-2008, 11:12 AM   #13
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Like stated above I would look for an STI up pipe used for really cheap.


Why would an STi owner need an STi uppipe?
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:26 PM   #14
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I think he meant a aftermarket STi uppipe.
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Old 03-22-2008, 12:34 PM   #15
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Sorry should of posted that. Its an 05 STI.

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:42 PM   #16
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I'm a noob, but from what I've read and tuners i've spoken to the cobb springs are not the best. The STi pinks and HKS springs are better. I would ditch the pulley set as well. I'm not sure what the unequal length headers give you, a turbo likes the equal pulses of equal length headers but you'll lose the boxster rumble and sound like a honda. Kartboy makes good end links. I think a fuel pump and injectors are a must, it's a great point to start from so you never starve your engine of fuel if you decide to get a bigger turbo in the future. Just my two cents, i've learned the hard way.
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Old 03-22-2008, 02:19 PM   #17
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Thank you. That's why I said what I did. I didn't see it was for an STI.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:24 AM   #18
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Amazing that nobody mentioned tires, or brakes.

Suspension:
- GOOD TIRES (depending on what the car has, and the conditions where you live)
- Front and Rear Sway bars
- Rear endlinks, maybe fronts
- Springs. JDM Pinks, Swifts, search, etc, etc.
- Consider Group-N tophats, depending where you are going with car.
- as many bushings as you can get your hands on. At a minimum, rear diff, outrigger, tranny crossmember, and shifter.
- Stiffer Tranny mount, maybe engine. Might just replace with better ones when they break, which they will eventually.
- A good alignment with lots of negative camber up front.

Power:
- Helix or other good-fitting bellmouth downpipe
- 3" catback that sounds good to you
- AP with a good protune, and maybe a GM BCS
- Boost gauge. Oil Pressure and EGT wouldn't hurt either.
- Walbro Fuel Pump

Stopping:
- Brake fluid flush with some Motul RBF600 or Super Blue
- Some good street pads
- Maybe some good rotors, but I would probably wait until I wore my stock ones out

This really depends whether you will install yourself. There may be room for headers, an Anti-Lift kit, a GOOD intake, a GOOD crank pulley, and a few other things. Just keep in mind, headers WILL crack.

All in all, it really depends what you want to do with the car. If you want lots of power, you have to think about how often you will actually use it. If you want superb handling, you have to consider whether you will drive the car hard enough to justify your mods. Start small, do a little at a time, and improve the weaknesses that you identify in the car.

One last thing: take some professional driving lessons. This will really help you push the car, while in a safe environment, and you will be better able to decide what mods you NEED. You will also be better able to handle the mods you get.
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:50 AM   #19
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I personally love my Cobb stage 2 suspension package. I like the cobb springs honestly. I have had prodrive and cobb springs and I personally think they are pretty close to the same. cobbs ride a little stiffer and are slightly lower.

If I were to do it all over again with 5k I would
Cobb APv2
Cobb Turbo-back
Cobb stage 2 suspension (springs, front and rear sways, rear tower brace)
that is $2500
and a protune

save for stoptech brake lines, and rotors front and rear, hawk pads.

get used to the power, save up for a turbo path.

THEN Get a GT3076R in either rotated or DOM III, Element52 (rotated will be more efficient and make more power) These turbo's are Extremely streetable with minimal lag and you make gobbs of power. No other turbos have more power under the stock block curve than the GT3076R turbo's.
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Old 03-23-2008, 12:29 PM   #20
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With a decent budget like yours i would ditch the hks dp and the borla header for better products and pick up a aftermarket uppipe
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Old 03-23-2008, 01:43 PM   #21
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Cobb Swaybar Front and Rear
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:20 PM   #22
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I want the springs for performance not lowering. I do want a slightly lowered stance but not laying on the ground or anything.

springs and performance dont mix. springs are for looks the ride quality goes down and your struts will hate you. if you want looks and performance get a set of used coilovers in the 4 sale thread. you dont need an uppipe yours already has no cat. As far as header gtspec genII are great i have one. and this comes with an uppipe that you have to use because its 3 bolt. I wouldnt do the pullies bad news there.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:42 PM   #23
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springs and performance dont mix. springs are for looks the ride quality goes down and your struts will hate you. if you want looks and performance get a set of used coilovers in the 4 sale thread. you dont need an uppipe yours already has no cat. As far as header gtspec genII are great i have one. and this comes with an uppipe that you have to use because its 3 bolt. I wouldnt do the pullies bad news there.
A good set of spring/strut will perform pretty damn well.
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Old 03-23-2008, 02:47 PM   #24
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if you go with aftermarket struts of course....but if you just put springs on your oem struts than no it will ride like ****. if you get ohlins struts expensive or kyb you'd be fine but in the end you might as well get coilovers because it would run you about the same price.
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I cant believe they suggested HKS downpipe
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