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Old 02-16-2002, 03:13 AM   #1
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Default P1's and prodrive brakes 9 lbs heavier than stock - 1/4 mile record comming up soon

My huntch proved right - - put on the stock wheels and breaks I recently bought tonight and weighed my p1's with 235 45 17 rubber against the stock wheels - 7 lbs heavier than stock

The prodrive rotors are 2 lbs heaveir than stock

Total wieght savings - 9 lbs per wheel on the front

7 lbs per wheel on the back

TOTAL ROTATIONAL MASS reduction - 33 lbs

I suspect the 33 lbs of rotational mass reduction will make a HUGE improvement in my 1/4 mile trap times

Tomorrow - I'll see how much HP the weight savings got me

I'm just doing this so I can smash the all time 2002 WRX 1/4 mile record and break into the 11's - as soon as i complete my goal - the prodrives go on - and the smaller vf30 turbo - I'm concerntrating on drivability and low end power for the auto cross season - - but

first i have some unfinished business to accomplish

and this time - i tunned the whole thing myself so I dont have to hear any BS from any cry babys aboutr how much money i spend on my car or any other lame excuses

See you all at the track - E'town opens March 2
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Old 02-16-2002, 07:41 AM   #2
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Al,Cecil county in Maryland opens the 22nd of Febuary There will be a lot of Rex's there. It would be great to add yours to the group.We have cars coming from Va MD DEL and N.J Thanks Michael
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Old 02-16-2002, 11:34 AM   #3
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someone go and take video... i'd like to see this myself.

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Old 02-16-2002, 11:58 AM   #4
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You don't have to wait for E-town, Atco(in N.J.) has been open every Sunday for the last month.. and it was only $15 last week when i went. E-town is cool, but when its crowded its kinda annoying, waiting for an hour between runs sometimes..
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Old 02-16-2002, 01:30 PM   #5
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You don't have to wait for E-town, Atco(in N.J.) has been open every Sunday for the last month.. and it was only $15 last week when i went. E-town is cool, but when its crowded its kinda annoying, waiting for an hour between runs sometimes..
Someone is one step ahead of me !!!!! Today is race prep day all the way
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Old 02-16-2002, 01:44 PM   #6
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the anticipation... wow i can't wait to hear the new times coming out of these guys.
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Old 02-16-2002, 02:26 PM   #7
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Al are you going to Atco tomorrow? I cant go but I want to.



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Old 02-16-2002, 04:33 PM   #8
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Will someone go and run the video camera for Al, if its going to be a record run, i am sure he wants to get it on video, and all of us would love to see it as well...


Al, I do have to say this though, you mentioned several times in my threads about how great the PE1820 was on the street... i think you even used the term "no lag" in refrence to it... What made you change your mind?

I wish you luck... It will be interesting to see just how much you've learned with your tuning practice... your on the tec2 now right? Ditched the Motec or haltec or whatever it was? Did you start with shiv's base maps? or is this an all from scrach Al tuning map?

Just wondering.... Good luck hope you post an 11 second slip and video asap.


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Old 02-16-2002, 06:16 PM   #9
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The 1820 is a great street trubo - I have virtually no lag at all - but feel I could make even more low end and mid range power - after playing with the wintec softwear for a month or so and reading many data logs I see that on street gas the pe1820 is a bit of overkill - its power band is on the top end and you can really pump it up on the 5500 - 7000 range if you have big enough injectors but it is missing a lot on the mid and low end

With pump gas i wind up only using a small part of the 1820's potential - so

I am thinking that the vf30 can give me some extra low and and mid range power on street gas and I am hoping that I'll only loose 10 hp or less on top

Looking at some of the dyno maps from mark at tubroxs on the vf30 - it seems it has a real strog hard hit tourqe peak right at 4,000 - - where as the 1820 takes till 4600 to really hit the heavy action

Anyway - i;ll let you guys know what the difference is with the vf30 - - BUT it may take a couple of weeks till I bolt it on

Wont bolt it on till I break the record

As for who tuned my car - my race gas map is a creature of my own crazy mind - I made it myslef - and i would suggest to you all that with c16 VP fuel - you can basically run anything you want without risk
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Old 02-16-2002, 09:17 PM   #10
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As for who tuned my car - my race gas map is a creature of my own crazy mind - I made it myslef - and i would suggest to you all that with c16 VP fuel - you can basically run anything you want without risk
Al, I hope these don't become famous last words.
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Old 02-16-2002, 10:40 PM   #11
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Al, I hope these don't become famous last words.
Well so far - I can run as much ign advance and run it very very lean and I have not had one detonation yet - the knock link stays silent and the egts are real cold

But this is the real deal $7.25 per gallon race fuel

I just need it to hold together for 12 seconds!

But with the fuel pump failure today and the stock fuel pump not hoilding the pressure in 3rd and 4th - - I am canceling the run tomorrow until I can get a new fuel pump
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Old 02-17-2002, 07:17 AM   #12
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That is what I thought when I ran the 13.9@96.7mph with only a HKS EVC EZ and H&K drop in. I had the P7's and a FULL tank of gas.

It was an amazing run for what I had.

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Old 02-17-2002, 07:39 AM   #13
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Al... what happens if you run a 12.01 or something like that?
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Old 02-17-2002, 02:42 PM   #14
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Al... what happens if you run a 12.01 or something like that?
I'm like the Howard Hughes of Subaru - i wont stop till I get to 11.99 - - I'll figure out a way - somehow

Today its fu=rustrating to know the car is ready to do it and a stupid fuel pump holds me back

But by next weekend we should have that problem resolved!

I'm not in this for money or reward - its just a hobby - my reward is personal satisfaction
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Old 02-17-2002, 09:56 PM   #15
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FYI

If I run my stock rims and tires and then my 18's I lose about 2-3 tenths in the Q. My 18's are Speedline GT1 lites that weight 39 lbs with the tire each. These are not heavy wheels.. Still.. They slow me down by a huge margin. I will estimate you will get the same 2-3 tenths I did.

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Old 02-17-2002, 10:08 PM   #16
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Fascinating ! The stock wheels and tires weighed in at 40 lbs even

Those speedlines are sure light - are they strong - so they hold up to street use????
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Old 02-17-2002, 10:19 PM   #17
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Fascinating ! The stock wheels and tires weighed in at 40 lbs even

Those speedlines are sure light - are they strong - so they hold up to street use????

I could go out and weigh a stock wheel and tire but I am lazy :P My roomate just got 19's and they came in at 50lbs with the tire. I put a Speedline on the scale and it was 39. We did zero the scale.. I asumed my stock 16's where less. Shocking....

One thing to think about is that my 18 inch GT1 lites wear 215/40/18 tires. I used the 215's as this puts me at the exact same size as the stockers overall. If I go with 225's I would be a bit over.. Next time I might try 225/40/18 as I have had some issues on the road race course with the rear tire sidewalls being scrubbed. The speedlines are very strong according to rallyperformance.com. Ken said they have never had one bend. I once saw a picture of the GT1 with the 225 tire on a scale and it read 45 I think... Hard to believe going from a 215 to a 225 tire would add 5 lbs but who knows....

Even though my wheels and tires are the same in weight.. Its still 2-3 tenths slower everytime I drag on the 18's. Outward rotational mass must be the answer. I 60 ft harder and run more MPH with the 16's.

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Old 02-17-2002, 10:32 PM   #18
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I think the 18's are slower for you becuase they have slightly lower rolling resistence than the 205 stock ones !
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The speedlines are very strong according to rallyperformance.com. Ken said they have never had one bend. CT
I bent all four of my Speedline GT1s. Of course they were on my Saab when some fool broadsided me and pushed my car through a bus stop.

Those are still the best wheels I've ever had. I wish I'd have bought some for my WRX instead of the P7s. Those GT1s look great in anthracite.
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I bent all four of my Speedline GT1s. Of course they were on my Saab when some fool broadsided me and pushed my car through a bus stop.

Those are still the best wheels I've ever had. I wish I'd have bought some for my WRX instead of the P7s. Those GT1s look great in anthracite.
sorry about your wheels... Ouch. I have the 18's in anthracite. I have pics if anyone wants to see them. Just a note* The 17 inch and smaller GT1 is alum and is not the same wheel as the 18 inch GT1 lite. The 18 has magnesium and is lighter than the 17...


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Old 02-18-2002, 12:53 PM   #21
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hmm.. a set of racing slicks on the factory rims are the answer for now... Max traction decent weight.... when you r done you throw the 17s or 18s on....


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Old 02-18-2002, 01:09 PM   #22
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Speedline GT-1 Lites weight 9.1KG(~20.5lbs). Don't believe scoobysport. They do not weight 8.5KG.

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