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Old 04-02-2008, 01:01 PM   #1
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Default are subaru lug nuts like tuner lug nuts?

... i have 17" aftermarket rims, and was wondering if subaru's lug nuts will fit. They say they have the regular ones, .... whatever that means....

Normal WRX lug nuts from the dealership might not fit my rims, but dont the BBS Rims require tuner lugs which are a lot thinner then REGULAR lugs and therefore would fit my aftermarket rims?
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:02 PM   #2
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BBS takes the same standard lug nut the other subaru alloy rims do. At least 2002-07, I can't speak for 08 models.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:34 PM   #3
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BBS takes the same lugs, I got 04 STI BBS on my WRX w/ the same nuts. Usually you wouldnt need tuner nuts unless stock ones are too short.
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:35 PM   #4
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Why don't you just take a lug nut off and see if it fits
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:21 PM   #5
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BBS takes the same standard lug nut the other subaru alloy rims do. At least 2002-07, I can't speak for 08 models.
That's right;the seat design is called "cone". But some wheels use a seat design called "radius"/"spherical"/"ball" which is easy to mistake for "cone". The two can not be mixed. Make sure that those aftermarket rims have cone seats before using your Suby lug nuts.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:36 PM   #6
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most aftermarket rims require "tuner" lugs, that have a more tapered seat. The stock subaru lugs will not work.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:39 PM   #7
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You can still use the stock subaru lugs. You will need a thin wall socket and if you torque them properly there shouldn't be a problem. In most cases they will fit.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:36 AM   #8
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Last year I bought wheels from Fikse. Fikse doesn't supply lug nuts for Subarus,so I sent them a stock Subaru nut,a Subaru/McGard locknut,and a McGard spline-drive nut for Subaru. Fikse examined them and told me that all three have the same cone seats and would work fine with my new wheels.
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:39 AM   #9
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I have ROTAs and OEM lugs don't work, they'll eat the s*** out of your wheel if you try to put them on all the way.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:27 PM   #10
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most aftermarket rims require "tuner" lugs, that have a more tapered seat. The stock subaru lugs will not work.
This is wrong.

Subaru OEM uses conical seats, which is the same as "tuner" lugs.

Other manufacturers, like Honda, use rounded seats, which are not compatible. But Subaru, uses conical.
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Old 04-03-2008, 01:28 PM   #11
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I have ROTAs and OEM lugs don't work, they'll eat the s*** out of your wheel if you try to put them on all the way.
HuH? Are you referring to the seat of the lug grinding the paint on the seat away? Or the fatness of the OEM lug making you scrap your wheel's lug wells?

Which Rota is this?
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Old 04-03-2008, 04:12 PM   #12
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I have ROTAs and OEM lugs don't work, they'll eat the s*** out of your wheel if you try to put them on all the way.


Depending on the Rotas perhaps, my Tarmac 2's had no issues. You have to use a thin wall socket and be gentle so you don't start scraping the sides. Other then that no problems.
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Old 04-03-2008, 06:23 PM   #13
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BBS takes the same lugs, I got 04 STI BBS on my WRX w/ the same nuts. Usually you wouldnt need tuner nuts unless stock ones are too short.
Yup... and I highly recommend you get a set of black BBS lug nuts if you get BBS's for your WRX (particularly gold BBS's). They add a nice touch.


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Old 04-03-2008, 07:38 PM   #14
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Yup... and I highly recommend you get a set of black BBS lug nuts if you get BBS's for your WRX (particularly gold BBS's). They add a nice touch.
I was thinking about STI Pink lugs for my black wheels. Does anyone know of a manufacture that makes them (or alternatively, what I can use to paint them that won't peel off)?
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Old 04-03-2008, 11:00 PM   #15
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HuH? Are you referring to the seat of the lug grinding the paint on the seat away? Or the fatness of the OEM lug making you scrap your wheel's lug wells?

Which Rota is this?
I'm referring to the fatness of the OEM lug scraping the wheel lug wells. Even when used with a thin wall socket, I wasn't going to be able to use them.

They are ROTA Boosts.
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I just bought a gorgeous set of silver bbs for my 07 WRX. Nowtheir both cone seats, but its almost like the cone is not long enough. Its too close to call, but i looks like the head of the lug (name i just made up for the part where it transitions from the cone to the socket shape) is almost in the wheel. it seems like the cone portion should be fitted a little longer. But if everyone else is using their stock lugs with bbs' i'm not too worried. did lugs change in 06/07's?
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Depending on the Rotas perhaps, my Tarmac 2's had no issues. You have to use a thin wall socket and be gentle so you don't start scraping the sides. Other then that no problems.
Sol Subaru GC lug nuts WILL fit on Rota Tarmac II Rims?!!?
As long as i use a thin walled socket,
How thin?
will a generic Mastercraft 19mm socket work?

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Old 11-05-2009, 04:11 AM   #18
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I was thinking about STI Pink lugs for my black wheels. Does anyone know of a manufacture that makes them (or alternatively, what I can use to paint them that won't peel off)?
Did you ever find a manufacturer for these?
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:41 AM   #19
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I'm referring to the fatness of the OEM lug scraping the wheel lug wells. Even when used with a thin wall socket, I wasn't going to be able to use them.
Quoting an old post, but I think this is what BlazinYellow was referring to... Sorry for the blurry first picture, I took this a few years ago and I'm too lazy to retake the photo now. Here's a stock acorn lugnut next to a Rays lugnut. They use the same, industry standard 60deg taper. However, you can see the Rays lugnut has a larger cone area, much like most aftermarket lugnuts. Between my three cars I have Rays, Gorilla and McGard lugnuts, and they all have that larger cone section.



Some aftermarket wheels have deeper lugnut pockets than the OEM wheels. If you put a stock acorn lugnut into that deeper pocket, the pointed corners of the hex section of the lugnut will hit the wheel and start to damage the wheel as you torque the lugnuts.

It's hard to get a good picture of it, but in that pic you can see how the hex section of the acorn lugnut is resting on the face of the wheel, whereas the larger cone section of the Rays lugnut has good cone-to-pocket contact.

So, it's perfectly acceptable to use aftermarket 60deg taper lugnuts on Subaru OEM wheels, but using Subaru OEM lugnuts on aftermarket wheels might not work out for you.

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Hey thanks for the info. I have been trying to find out about this for awhile now.
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