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Old 10-02-2000, 01:01 PM   #1
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Well, actually if you read your warrenty on your subaru, technically you void it if you race. The issue is proving it of course..... Just dont bring your car to the dealership on feathered tires I guess.
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Old 10-02-2000, 01:16 PM   #2
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What happened to the article about the Impreza vs. M5 over at carzone? it's gone...
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Old 10-02-2000, 01:30 PM   #3
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Gambit,

the one where the STi beat the M5 by four car lengths? I was looking for it and then I stumbled upon the Japan vs Germany thing. What treasures you can find when you look for something else!!!
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Old 10-02-2000, 01:37 PM   #4
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Very funny! BMW couldn't face that they don't have the fastest saloon in the world.
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Old 10-02-2000, 05:29 PM   #5
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I would put my RS up against a damn M5 on a tight track that requires skill. Most people who own the don't know how to drive them. I saw an old woman driving one yesterday. And yes it was an "M"5. In fact BMWs Sporty image is tarnished by a bunch of yuppies driving automatic 328s. If it were not for this I might like them.
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Old 10-02-2000, 06:15 PM   #6
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Bowel
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My first time out on a SCCA course netted a trophy...from a BMW EVENT!!!Choke on it Sheitzkopf!!!

....any questions? Gary
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Old 10-02-2000, 07:53 PM   #7
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Don't slam the M5 - just slam BMW marketing fools!

The M5 is still the ultimate luxury saloon. Just maybe not quite as ultimate as the marketing types want.
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Old 10-02-2000, 08:33 PM   #8
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Oh yes, I've know two BMW Nazis who have to see this.

Funny thing is I've always hated the people who drive Bimmers because they consider everyone else to be inferior in every aspect, and now I have a reason to hate the company as well.
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Old 10-02-2000, 08:33 PM   #9
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There was a little discussion about this at a BMW M5 site back in July (http://www.bmwm5.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000638.html). They kept talking about how cheap Subarus are compared to their luxurious plush interiors and all.

Totally off the subject that according to BMW's advertising claims, its M5 is "the fastest saloon car on the planet." It's funny how people get off topic.
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:01 AM   #10
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Post hehe...Subaru vs BMW

Well well well....I'll let you come up with your own conclusions.
http://www.carzone.co.za/html/gervzjap2.html

I have nothing to say coz I'm unbiased. Riiiight.



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Old 10-03-2000, 12:41 AM   #11
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That is hilarious.
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:41 AM   #12
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Yuppies drive Beemers cause they can afford them and want to look like they have $$$ of course. I would buy one too after driving one, but right now the IS300 is my fav. for lux cars.

Dont get me wrong, I'd still the the new WRX over anything in any price range exept a 2001 911 Turbo

BTW, what BMW head hancho idiot decided to race the M5 vs. an STi? I mean, people compair the STi to ferraris, lambos, and all the other "fast exotic cars" in the world... and it usually wins too!
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:42 AM   #13
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Isn't the Mitsu EVO faster than the STi WRX?
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:45 AM   #14
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This is my favorite part:

"This led to a media
onslaught against BMW by
various motoring journals,
coming to a head when in its
current issue, Cars in Action
magazine proved that claim
was not altogether true in a
test between a standard
BMW M5 and a Subaru
Impreza STi in Johannesburg.
The Subaru, also a saloon
car, trounced the BMW over
the quarter mile sprint and in
a test from 0-160km/h to 0.
"

Hee.
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:49 AM   #15
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Made my day.
God bless impreza...
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:54 AM   #16
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Gambit, I've heard it depends on the model of EVO vs the model of WRX. I THINK the Impreza is the fastest with the 22b edging out all of the EVOs Mitsu has. I can't remember for sure, someone want to correct me?
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Old 10-03-2000, 12:57 AM   #17
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I'm shocked that BMW actually would threaten someone by witholding/denying their warranty if they raced. That can't be legal and secondly, it sounds like they're running scared.

Thank god it was the "lowly" Impreza that shut those damn Germans UP.

Yo, BMW!! Are you listening?? I've owned three of your products in the past and I'll I can say is...your cars have one of the poorest performance/$ values of any car I've owned. Poo-poo on you!!! I'm sticking with Subaru's!!!!!
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Old 10-03-2000, 08:54 AM   #18
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I found this M3 owner's opinion to be extremely humor

"Who wants to sit in a bucket with someone trying to get in using a jack hammer.
I meet one of these things every other day on my way to work, My M3 evo thrashed the pants off it,lets see how he gets on with my M5 when its run in, like the guy said, they need to learn to drive. These rally homologation specials need sevicing every 4000 miles, transmission oil changing every week, they drink fuel like a 747 and they ride like a skateboard. The production versions NEVER perform to spec. and the owners all seem to have total belief in there ability to win an international rally in their lunch hour. Sad car, sad people.

BrianR"

We need to give him a good reality check about what's going on in the world, so he won't think his Ms is all mighty god.

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Old 10-03-2000, 09:01 AM   #19
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I believe he got one too many spankings from our UK Scooby buds. Poor lad.
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Old 10-03-2000, 09:04 AM   #20
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Jewbaru,

The <A HREF="http://www.ralliartuk.com/carsales/EvoVI/Extreme/extcarmage.htm">Mitsubishi Lancer EVO Extreme</a> is the fastest of them all:
340horsepower, 160mph, and 0-60 in 4.0 seconds...
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Old 10-03-2000, 10:19 AM   #21
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Well I admit the M3 evo guy was a bit arrogant, but that aside, the M3 evo is a sweet car. I also agree that most BMW owners are arrogant, and would probably lose to a good Geo metro driver on an autocross course, due to lack of driving skill. But I have owned 3 BMW's and they are excellent cars. Maybe the M5 isn't the ULTIMATE, but its a pretty sweet car.

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Old 10-03-2000, 10:38 AM   #22
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Hmmm....that is one sweet looking BMW. But the Impreza looks just as good. But I'm not into plush leather interior.
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Old 10-03-2000, 10:43 AM   #23
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I'm with Slim.
So BMW's marketing "gurus" messed up BIG time with that statement. However I think BMW makes a terrific car- especially they're
"M" cars.
Where is all this animosity coming from anyways. It's sad that the majority of BMW owners buy them for status and not for the perfomance that they deliver. And yes I have met plenty who were snooby, but I have also heard the same thing about Impreza owners on this very board. If you don't like some of the people driving the car that's one thing, but If I had the oportunity to get an M5 over an impreza, I would go for it in a Second. They are two different cars. I remeber a thread about a GS400 racing an RS. Same thing here IMO.
Like each one for what they are and don't fall into the marketing hype.

I'd like to think that we are smarter then that here.

Later

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Old 10-03-2000, 10:44 AM   #24
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Snooper! How the heck did you get that pic?! THe directory access are all denied. Do did you manage to get the article?
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Old 10-03-2000, 10:51 AM   #25
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Thats funny, then "Ultimite driving machine" getting reamed by a car origionaly designed for backcountry people who needed a cheap and realible 4wd.

Well as for most desirable sallon, I would much rather have a XJR, and its even faster than the M5 in 0-50. Just that 30HP deficency fom the factory and extra wieght make the M5 slightly faster above 50. Hmm exaust and intake would fix the XJR's power problem REAL quick.
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