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Old 05-15-2001, 06:19 AM   #1
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Post I love my RS but ...

Okay, let me start off by saying I really to enjoy my RS. I've got a 2000, which means I missed out on the standard carbon fiber interior (thankfully) and was still able to get a sedan. It's a fun car to drive, and that's just w/ the stock set up. Nonetheless, I'm becoming more and more frustrated as I keep having to take the car back in for warranty work. About a week after I got it, the interior trim above the front seatbelts on the B pillar came loose. I had to take it in to get fixed. That took about 5 minutes. A couple months ago a wheel bearing went bad. I took it in, that took about 3 hours. A couple weeks ago the CE light came on. It ended up being a bad AF sensor, that took a day. Most recently, the belt from the interior cabin fan has started to slip, causing a hiddeous sound to come out from the dash, as well as a rather strong smell of burning rubber.

Now, I don't expect a car to be perfect, but this seems a bit ridiculous to me. Am I being hyper-sensitive? I don't know. Sorry, it's been a bad few days and I needed to vent about something, so this is it.
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:33 AM   #2
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Bummer to hear it. I've only put on 7500 miles, but I've been trouble free. As reliable and well put together as a Civic... My single complaint is the horrible finish of the glove compartment, but aside from that...

But I know what it's like to have a car that is always causing trouble. My Fiance's new Beetle is absolute Heck. I'm so sick of that car. Literally every month we have to get something fixed, and VW just ignores us... Gets expensive.

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Old 05-15-2001, 06:42 AM   #3
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I'm sorry to hear about all those problems. After 27,000 miles the only complaints i had were some loose L door trimming which would buzz with loud music and a burnt out ignition coil pack which happened at 23K miles. Aside from that my car has been very trouble free.

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Old 05-15-2001, 06:47 AM   #4
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38,000 miles with smiles!

I got a good car. You got a "Friday before a three day weekend" car.

Sorry to hear that about your car.
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:49 AM   #5
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I guess you were unlucky. I've been lucky and after 15,000 miles, I only had a squeak in my car. That has been fixed.

By the time I hit 15,000 miles with my 98 Civic, I had many complaints ranging from brake rotors to alternator to moonroof noise.
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:50 AM   #6
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AudiGuy- I've got a rattley door and a check engine light that'll burn out before the end of the year.

But- the car runs fine.

I came from an A4. Interior was a work of art, but it had its rattles too. The dash. Still, the material was worlds better than the 2001 RS.

Hang on. It'll be worth it. It won't implode 2k miles out of waranty like VW/Audi 1.8T engines do.
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:55 AM   #7
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My my... I though I was the only one getting problems with my RS. I purchased my 2001 RS not too long ago, I don't drive it that much and it only has about 1,027 miles on it. Yesterday I have to bring it to the service department to get it fix due to my ignition Ay gone bad. Also, there where some weird sound coming from the back which I had no idea what it is. I wouldn't know what to or how to inform the service guy. Anyway, I have a strange feeling that this car will be seeing a lot of services.

Say, have you wonder if you had purchase a Lemon car? It enter my mind when I have to take my car for service (3 times). These car are build or put together very poorly I think. However, I love this car (2.5RS) too much to let it go. The WRX is fast but the original styling is unbeatable! What good is fast if there are a stop sign and traffic light every 1/4 miles?!

Anyway, I am getting scare that I will be experiencing your fate with your car. Tell me, what about the AF sensor? What is that? What about the Wheel bearing? What happen? Is it on the back/rear wheels giving you problems?

Lastly, do you drive hard? That can wear out the car so... I am still babying my car because it is band new so.. hehe

Good luck with your RS,
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Old 05-15-2001, 06:59 AM   #8
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defintely lemon cars. Cus I have a 2001 RS as well and I drive it hard. The thing has been tight as a safe. Yes the biggest qualm I have is the interior. It can be scratched easily.
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Old 05-15-2001, 07:39 AM   #9
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Well, here's some more info on my RS:

I bought the car in July of 2000 (less than a year ago) and I only have about 7500 miles on it. I have fun with it, but I'm by no means driving it any harder than it can/should be able to take. I'm not auto-x-ing it, and right now it remains stock, save for a switch over to Mobil 1 synthetic.

With respect to the wheel bearing, it was the rear passenger-side wheel. I noticed a "humming" coming from the rear of the car, that changed in pitch as I changed speed.

With respect to the AF sensor, my understanding is that this is the air flow sensor. I was told that this sensor senses oxygen flow and controls the amount of oxygen that is put into the engine for combustion. I'm not sure if this is the same as the O2 sensor which was recalled.

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As far as the lemon law goes, Ohio screwed me. It's got one of the tougher standards to meet. The car has to have gone in for (a)3 repair attempts for the same problem, (b) 8 total repair attempts, (c) 1 attempt to repair a condition likely to cause death/serious bodily injury, or (d) out of service for 30 or more calendar days. All of this must happen within one year or 18,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

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Old 05-15-2001, 08:04 AM   #10
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Hi AudiGuy:

Oh no... this is exactly what I am experiencing with my rear passenger side wheel. There was a very weird sound coming from the back and I just though I ignore it. The sound changed in pitch as my speed increases. Is this a big problem AudiGuy? Should I ignore or? I just got my car back from service yesterday and if this problem is serious.. I will make time and bring it back to service again. I knew a few guys who has told me about this weird pitch sound coming from the back/rear of there car too. Those guys just ignore it so... I wanted to ignore it but what is your take on it?

Hmmm... I hope my AF Sensor (O2 Sensor) is fine. Say, how do I know if I am getting a problem from the AF Sensor?

Thank you sooo much for your advice AudiGuy.

-AliasAngel

P.S. My car also rattles from time to time by the door side or under the dash board... The paint clips too easy as well. Say, do you know the paint code number for our car (Blue Ridge Pearl paint code)? I wanted to get a wing painted else where so....~ Thanks

P.S.S Sorry to hear about the lemon law in Ohio.
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Old 05-15-2001, 08:18 AM   #11
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<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I hear people's frustrations on the board, and it makes me believe in "Friday" or "Monday" cars more and more. The only problems I've had with my RS has been that 5th gear popping out deal with the bad main shaft nut on the tranny and the O2 sensor recall. Other than that, not a problem. And others have wheel bearings, A/C problems, bad axles... it's weird. Sorry to hear about your problems man...

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Old 05-15-2001, 08:21 AM   #12
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There was a recall on the MAP O2 sensors for most 2000 2.5L Subarus, due to a high number of failures. So that isn't a problem unique to your car. If you didn't get a recall letter previously, it is because there is a shortage of replacement parts, and they're rolling out the recalls on a regional basis.

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Old 05-15-2001, 08:23 AM   #13
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AliasAngel is my new most favorite person in the world. He is polite, thoughtful, and speaks with the delightful twang of yesteryear.

Quote:
Say, have you wonder if you had purchase a Lemon car? It enter my mind when I have to take my car for service.
Say, did you notice his delightful speech habits? He has the sparkle of a child and the thirst for knowledge of a scholar.

Quote:
Anyway, I am getting scare that I will be experiencing your fate with your car. Tell me, what about the AF sensor? What is that? What about the Wheel bearing? What happen?
What happen? Weve been set up the bomb!

AliasAngel, dont ever change. I think I speak for everyone when I say you are A-OK!
Im serious too.

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Old 05-15-2001, 08:57 AM   #14
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Serious or not, I dont think posts like that are called for, Robot. People here get excited to post replies, and don't always care about correcting thir grammar or typos, they just want to get their point across quickly. I'm starting to see some members start basing opinions on other new members by a poorly written post, and it bugs me. Take it easy, stay on topic. Chill out.

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Old 05-15-2001, 09:15 AM   #15
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Thank you Buttsy for the kind words. I only post during work hours and sometime I get very careless with my words. And yes, Typos does happen indeed. Immanual Robot, please don't get offended by all means. Writing post gets me a bit nervous due to having the boss passing over my shoulder once and a while. Typing as fast as I can and getting my thoughts out can generate a few errors. IRobot, English is not my first language either so~ Lastly, Audiguy... reply soon. Thank you very much. Again, Special thanks to Buttsy for your understanding.

Best Regards,
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Old 05-15-2001, 09:21 AM   #16
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Sorry to hear about the problems you've had with your cars, Audi and Angel... So far, the only problem that I've had with mine, was getting the sensitivity turned down on the alarm. My previous residence had train tracks that ran ~50 ft. behind the parking lot, and I got the feeling that my neighbors weren't too happy when the alarm would go off every night at about 2am.

Also, if you want to see what was done to the car BEFORE you got it, go to subaru's website, click on MySubaru. It's similar to carfax.com, only personalized once you register.. nice.
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Old 05-15-2001, 09:36 AM   #17
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I've got 25k miles on my 2000 RS which I bought last July, and I hammer on that thing. AutoX, generally screwing around, lowered it, tires, ripped out that dumb intake snorkus...

And I've had zero problems.

Heck, I've even unplugged and plugged in wire connectors under the dash and hood just to see what they would do with no ill effects.

Sorry yours is being a pain. Maybe treat it rougher? Seems to work for me. I haven't even taken it in for the 15k service - screw that!
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Old 05-15-2001, 09:53 AM   #18
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A big warm welcome to you skunky and congratulation for your first post~ Thank you for your concern/sincerity about our problems.

Yes, I did registered at mysubaru.com~ Personalizing and learning about your car at the mysubaru site was cool. I am glad that SOA did this for us.

Anyway, I wishes you the BEST with your RS for many years to come.
-AliasAngel
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Hi RS25.com

Wow, you are rough with your ride dude.
"Maybe treat it rougher?" .... errrr hmm... errr... Thanks for your advice but in a few years along the line perhaps...~

Anyway, Party On with your Scooby, RS25.com!!! &lt;&lt;Can it get any rougher?&gt;&gt;
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Old 05-15-2001, 09:55 AM   #19
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Oh no... this is exactly what I am experiencing with my rear passenger side wheel. There was a very weird sound coming from the back and I just though I ignore it. The sound changed in pitch as my speed increases. Is this a big problem AudiGuy? Should I ignore or? I just got my car back from service yesterday and if this problem is serious.. I will make time and bring it back to service again. I knew a few guys who has told me about this weird pitch sound coming from the back/rear of there car too. Those guys just ignore it so... I wanted to ignore it but what is your take on it?

Hmmm... I hope my AF Sensor (O2 Sensor) is fine. Say, how do I know if I am getting a problem from the AF Sensor?
Angel,

If you're still under warranty, I'd definitely have the service dept. look at it. Personally, I don't know what could happen should the bearing go completely bad. My initial thought is that the wheel would simiply sieze up, which could cause a lot of damage and possibly injury as well. Perhaps there's someone who knows more about the technical/mechanical side of cars that can answer that question.

As for the AF sensor, so long as your "check engine" light doesn't come on, you're okay. However, if the light comes on you'll want to take the car in. Even if it's not the AF/O2 sensor, it will still log a code in the car's computer which the service dept. can read and interpret.

Best of luck!

p.s. - in defense of I Robot, I do think he meant well. Nonetheless, I would agree with those who have said he should not have made light of your typing/speech pattern.
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Old 05-15-2001, 09:59 AM   #20
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I definitely got a Friday car:
*2 new clutches-Bent pressure plate finger, seized bearings, worn out fork
*new MAF, CE light still flashes on once in a while
*new rear wheel trim, both sides came loose.
*new window weather stripping & mirrors, both sides whistled at highway speeds
*new front turn signals, fell out due to loose screw clip that was also replaced 4x.
*new rear wheel bearings, loud humming sound when decellerating from highway speeds
*new alternator, poor charging
*new seat skins (all), stitching came out completely.
*new hood pind switch, wouldn't open
*new jack, original was bent, i don't know how either.
*new wheel locks, key broke

All that since Feb. under warranty, thankfully. The car only has 37,000kms (23000mi) on it. My dealership has it now for as long as they need to. I'm tired of taking it in for this and that. They have to do the clutch again, after 3000kms, about 25% gone & the MAF again.
I'm sure there is someone out there worse off than me. Don't feel so bad. It never fails when you pity yourself, someone comes along with a worse story.
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Old 05-15-2001, 10:08 AM   #21
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Thank you AudiGuy,

I will definitely take my car in for the bearing check. You have been a great help, let's keep in touch by PM about any future issue about our RS.

Best of Luck to you too!~

AliasAngel

Oh... damianq.... I can feel your plain!!! I hope my luck will change with my RS~
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Old 05-15-2001, 10:19 AM   #22
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The only problem I've had with my car is a bad AF sensor. It only took 2-3hours to replace mine though. Oh an my cruise stopped working after I took it to the dealer for the AF, I think that was them rather than the car though.
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Old 05-15-2001, 10:21 AM   #23
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I've had a few problems as well. I bought my RS about 5 months ago and have a bit over 8k miles on it.

Repairs to date:

Replace front speaker, buzzing.
Replace glove box, not aligned properly.
Replace rear diff, making an inordinate amount of noise.

Yeah, it's not the most solid car, but it's still a damn good deal for an enthusiast.
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Old 05-15-2001, 11:06 AM   #24
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Hello AudiGuy and everybody else,
I guess this is a defense on Subaru's behalf. First, let me say that I am bummed for you with regards to your RS troubles. Is not trouble free performance supposed to be one of the great benefits of owning a new car?! Well, it is supposed to be with Subaru. According to "Consumer Reports", Subaru is one of the best manufacturers in terms of new cars not having problems. For the year 2000, the only manufacturers with less problems per 100 new cars were Toyota, Nissan, and Honda (and their luxury nameplates, of course). As far as used Subarus go: they are, generally, highly recommended by various consumer advocate organizations as being reliable used cars. In fact, "CR" lists all current models as "best bets" for purchasing a used vehicle. No other manufacturer has all their models recommended like that! (okay, so sure, the big S has only 3 models in its line-up, so it is easier to get them all recommended, but heh, it sounds good!)

To sum it up, I fear that those of you who have experienced many problems with your Subaru have in fact acquired a Friday-before-a-three-day-weekend car.

The solution: eliminate three day weekends at the plants! Wait, but that still leaves Monday cars. No problem: eliminate weekends all together!
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Old 05-15-2001, 11:52 AM   #25
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I apologize if it seemed like I was kidding. Im glad some of you noticed I was serious. But in all seriousness, SERIOUS THIS TIME.

Alias reminds me of various european students I have met in my college classes, they are the nicest people in the world and use wonderful english idioms that, while are outdated, are simply charming.

CHEERS TO MY FAVORITE PERSON!
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