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Old 01-18-2013, 11:34 PM   #1
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Default 2013 WRX front swaybar suggestions?

I'm getting ready to run in STA with my 2013 WRX. Any suggestions on replacing the front swaybar with Something like a Whiteline bar, I believe a 22-25mm.



Thanks for any help

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Old 01-19-2013, 08:33 AM   #2
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Are you going start a new thread for each part on the car?
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:02 AM   #3
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Are you going start a new thread for each part on the car?
Even with all the wonderful and helpful people on NASIOC, there's always gotta be a few DBs.

It's a reasonable question especially for SoloII competition....No?
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Old 01-19-2013, 09:41 AM   #4
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Its a lot of reading to look through all the threads. I'll give you what I took away from it. A lot of it is driver preference but the most common set up is a 25mm front sway bar. I ordered one from Perrin. Although if I had a few more $$ I would be tempted to try just konis first with stock bars to make my own assessment. Remember you can change the end links with the sway bar as well. If you go the Perrin route wait for the next holiday because they run 10% off sales a lot.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:11 AM   #5
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Its a lot of reading to look through all the threads. I'll give you what I took away from it. A lot of it is driver preference but the most common set up is a 25mm front sway bar. I ordered one from Perrin. Although if I had a few more $$ I would be tempted to try just konis first with stock bars to make my own assessment. Remember you can change the end links with the sway bar as well. If you go the Perrin route wait for the next holiday because they run 10% off sales a lot.
Thanks for the input. I know Sometimes the forums are bombarded with fluff and info can be dated...but your answer definitely helps.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:24 AM   #6
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Even with all the wonderful and helpful people on NASIOC, there's always gotta be a few DBs.

It's a reasonable question especially for SoloII competition....No?
No. It's not reasonable.
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Old 01-19-2013, 10:40 AM   #7
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No. It's not reasonable.

Whatever man...learn what Solo II is and then maybe you'll have a clue. Otherwise keep your sarcastic posts to yourself.

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Old 01-19-2013, 11:02 AM   #8
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It sucks because your driving style can play a role in what bar you will want. I look at my 05 Sti for instance and I see tons of people running bigger bars than I, yet I run a 22mm rear bar and a stock front bar. You'll have to do test and tune to see what you like and what is fastest.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:25 PM   #9
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Whatever man...learn what Solo II is and then maybe you'll have a clue. Otherwise keep your sarcastic posts to yourself.
You are aware you're talking to a National Champion Subaru driver, right?
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:39 PM   #10
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You are aware you're talking to a National Champion Subaru driver, right?
A) I couldn't care less...

B) National champ or not, doesn't give the right to be a pompous ignorant pug...

C) The purpose of this forum and others like it is too share ideas and help a fellow Subaru bro out. I would think a "national champion" would agree...,No?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:04 AM   #11
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Jesus F'n Christ. Do you really think sway bars haven't been covered before? You probably wouldn't have to go 2 pages deep to find the most informative threads on the subject. Info that's already been "shared". Sorry ass Nanny gereration........

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Old 01-20-2013, 09:02 AM   #12
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Jesus F'n Christ. Do you really think sway bars haven't been covered before? You probably wouldn't have to go 2 pages deep to find the most informative threads on the subject. Info that's already been "shared". Sorry ass Nanny gereration........

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This is sad...having been away from NASIOC for a few years and then reading this...it appears the new generation have more time on their hands to be insulting and downright a**holes. Thank you to those who provided useful info on this thread...drop dead to those who didn't.

And BTW I know the search button , I did one and came up empty after multiple pages...hence my thread.
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Old 01-20-2013, 09:22 AM   #13
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It sucks because your driving style can play a role in what bar you will want. I look at my 05 Sti for instance and I see tons of people running bigger bars than I, yet I run a 22mm rear bar and a stock front bar. You'll have to do test and tune to see what you like and what is fastest.
Thanks appreciate the advice. I'm thinking maybe a Perrin 25mm. I can't change out the rear for STA.

miss my 05 STi ....
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Old 01-20-2013, 10:28 AM   #14
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Thanks appreciate the advice. I'm thinking maybe a Perrin 25mm. I can't change out the rear for STA.

miss my 05 STi ....
Yes you can. I believe right now for RTA you can either change the front OR change the rear.
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24mm whiteline with kartboy endlinks
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This is sad...having been away from NASIOC for a few years and then reading this...it appears the new generation have more time on their hands to be insulting and downright a**holes.
No, those of us who've commented have been here awhile......join dates can help you, but you have trouble digesting data in front of you apparently.

So calling someone a DB, for an innocuous statement such as this,
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Are you going start a new thread for each part on the car?
shows your maturity as well. Forum clutter is typically a bad thing, and those who have been members for a length of time should know better.
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:40 PM   #17
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No, those of us who've commented have been here awhile......join dates can help you, but you have trouble digesting data in front of you apparently.

So calling someone a DB, for an innocuous statement such as this,
shows your maturity as well. Forum clutter is typically a bad thing, and those who have been members for a length of time should know better.
See your previous "mature" comments and you will see what annoys me.

And try paying attention, I did a search and came out empty hence my post. You and others who immediately jump on members for their posts provide a bad name for a great site. Your attacks are DB in nature. Hey, Just being honest.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:33 PM   #18
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Since this is a public forum. I can post or say just about anything I want. I didn't insult you. I asked you a question. But here let me try to help you:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...light=2011+rta

Alot of the info is in front of you and I pulled one of about 6 very informative threads on the matter. So I don't think you tried or I think you think a 2013 model is magically different.

You're really not doing that much to the car so here's my advice. Buy the tires that were recommended in your other thread, follow a baseline of alignment, swaybars, and shocks from the other RTA threads. Then season to taste and remember you 're driving a fwd pig on street tires. So brake early and often.

I was being a bit intolerant. Not ignorant. I know that scca stopped officially using soloII about 6 years ago, it's just solo, and nationally there is no STA recognized. So I don't think it's reasonable to ask questions for stuff that doesn't exist.

That's it. Nothing personal. Nothing inflammatory. If you do happen to have something revolutionary, like a binary turbo or something, please share that stuff!

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Old 01-20-2013, 02:55 PM   #19
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Since this is a public forum. I can post or say just about anything I want. I didn't insult you. I asked you a question. But here let me try to help you:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...light=2011+rta

Alot of the info is in front of you and I pulled one of about 6 very informative threads on the matter. So I don't think you tried or I think you think a 2013 model is magically different.

You're really not doing that much to the car so here's my advice. Buy the tires that were recommended in your other thread, follow a baseline of alignment, swaybars, and shocks from the other RTA threads. Then season to taste and remember you 're driving a fwd pig on street tires. So brake early and often.

I was being a bit intolerant. Not ignorant. I know that scca stopped officially using soloII about 6 years ago, it's just solo, and nationally there is no STA recognized. So I don't think it's reasonable to ask questions for stuff that doesn't exist.

That's it. Nothing personal. Nothing inflammatory. If you do happen to have something revolutionary, like a binary turbo or something, please share that stuff!

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Thanks Greg for the thread...

I guess it's better to not ask questions on this forum or risk being insulted by those who are intolerant. I mean I guess I didn't do enough research, so why bother. So unless I have something "revolutionary " to say, then don't post.. Sounds like you're a forum bully who has way too much time...

BTW, RTA didn't run this year at Solo Nationals?

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Old 01-20-2013, 03:00 PM   #20
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Whatever man...learn what Solo II is and then maybe you'll have a clue. Otherwise keep your sarcastic posts to yourself.
This comment really almost made me choke.

Dude, you should really take your attitude down a notch. Greg is one of the most helpful guys on NASIOC when it comes to Subaru setup and 2.0-->2.5 swaps. My car would be nowhere without his help. Many of us who have been on forums for a while get a bit tired of "forum clutter," as tuskenraider put it. You would have been better served by starting a single thread for your car and updating it with questions/ideas/modifications (aka, like a build thread). It would have ruffled fewer feathers, and you probably would have gotten more insightful input (versus what you felt was inciteful).

Of course, I'll probably be labeled DB #3 for not contributing a bit of swaybar knowledge, so here you go : try a larger bar. See what the rest of the '08+ guys are running and like. Or, strike out and try a rear bar instead and report back so that others could learn something. Or even talk to the guys in your area and see if you can't consolidate your testing at a test-and-tune with codrives/parts swapping. A front bar on a Subaru is a bitch to change on site, so a codrive in someone else's car with the opposite of what you have (ie., if you have a front bar, drive a car with a rear bar) is probably the better bet.

And like Greg says, it's going to be a pushy pig on street tires and just a bar. So basically, you're going to have to go with whatever feels less crappy.
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BTW, STA didn't run this year at Solo Nationals?
No. You're thinking "RTA", and it's just a supplemental class, so no actual "championship." And it's still supplemental this year, and without support at the National level, it's probably gone after this year (all of the RT classes).
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No. You're thinking "RTA", and it's just a supplemental class, so no actual "championship." And it's still supplemental this year, and without support at the National level, it's probably gone after this year (all of the RT classes).
Yeah my mistake...I meant RTA not STA. I hope it stays around....
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Since this is a public forum. I can post or say just about anything I want. I didn't insult you. I asked you a question. But here let me try to help you:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...light=2011+rta

Alot of the info is in front of you and I pulled one of about 6 very informative threads on the matter. So I don't think you tried or I think you think a 2013 model is magically different.

You're really not doing that much to the car so here's my advice. Buy the tires that were recommended in your other thread, follow a baseline of alignment, swaybars, and shocks from the other RTA threads. Then season to taste and remember you 're driving a fwd pig on street tires. So brake early and often.

I was being a bit intolerant. Not ignorant. I know that scca stopped officially using soloII about 6 years ago, it's just solo, and nationally there is no STA recognized. So I don't think it's reasonable to ask questions for stuff that doesn't exist.

That's it. Nothing personal. Nothing inflammatory. If you do happen to have something revolutionary, like a binary turbo or something, please share that stuff!

Cheers
Greg

btw Wayne and I are both extremely helpful on this forum and share alot of info.
Greg, I just didn't like your sarcastic comment earlier...honestly no big deal and thanks again for your help

Ben.
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Greg, I just didn't like your sarcastic comment earlier...honestly no big deal and thanks again for your help

Ben.
It's fine, thanks. It's the off-season and the internet. I've really never been called an internet bully so....lol

Good luck with your car and your autox season.

But if you start a tire pressure thread I swear to god.......I'm gonna...
just kidding, just kidding.
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