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Old 02-20-2010, 09:31 PM   #1
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Default Installing Hella 700ff driving lights: Electrical knowledge=Zero

I realize there are plenty of threads regarding the installation of many of the Hella lights. And I understand the basic principles of hooking up the lights. However, I have read a bunch of threads that mention a relay being needed to complete the installation, as well as an additional fuse. I don't believe a relay or a fuse comes with the driving lamp kit.

So where do I get said relay and fuse? Do I actually need them? I'm looking to simply wire the lights to the supplied switch and mount the switch inside the cabin. I'm not interested in connecting the lights to the high beams.

I apologize for my ignorance when it comes to wiring. Thanks to anyone who can help to shed some light on this for me.
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:24 PM   #2
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did you buy them new?? if you did, they should've came with all that including instructions
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:30 PM   #3
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Haven't purchased them yet. List of included items in the kit does not show either of those items. So I can expect them to be included and to get detailed directions on wiring them up with the kit?

On a scale from 1-5, 1 being as easy as making and connecting a harness for a car stereo, how would you rate this install?
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yes you need a relay to hook them up correctly. the relay is not to make them not come on with high beams but to pull the current from the battery rather then a possible low current source that may have been tapped for your switch. a relay only requires 150mA of current to activate it which puts a very very small extra draw on the circuit you tap for your switch. if you were to run 2 55 watt bulbs at aprox 12 volts you would be pulling about 10amps, or close to 100 times as much current. the relay allows you to use your switch inside to be fed from pretty much anywhere without worry of drawing too much off the circuit and still get the lights the current they need.
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Old 02-20-2010, 10:56 PM   #5
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ya you should expect to have a harness with all that along with a switch.. and a basic diagram of where each wire goes and what goes to the switch or something.. i think the difficulty isn't too bad since you're gonna run them independently.. actually, i have 2 extra sets of hella 1000s so if you want, i can snap a pic of what's inside.. i'm sure it's the same all across the board for all hella lights

if for some reason you don't have the diagram, i'm sure many of us can tell you what each color wire is for and where they go
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ya you should expect to have a harness with all that along with a switch.. and a basic diagram of where each wire goes and what goes to the switch or something.. i think the difficulty isn't too bad since you're gonna run them independently.. actually, i have 2 extra sets of hella 1000s so if you want, i can snap a pic of what's inside.. i'm sure it's the same all across the board for all hella lights

if for some reason you don't have the diagram, i'm sure many of us can tell you what each color wire is for and where they go
Yes, that would be helpful. Thanks.
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Wow. Fantastic. The diagram looks pretty self explanatory. Very helpful. Thanks.
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np, have fun=)
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ya you should expect to have a harness with all that along with a switch.. and a basic diagram of where each wire goes and what goes to the switch or something.. i think the difficulty isn't too bad since you're gonna run them independently.. actually, i have 2 extra sets of hella 1000s so if you want, i can snap a pic of what's inside.. i'm sure it's the same all across the board for all hella lights

if for some reason you don't have the diagram, i'm sure many of us can tell you what each color wire is for and where they go
Unfortunately the 500/700FF don't come with a nice of a pre-wired setup, nor as good of quality relay/diagram. I've installed sets of both these and the FF1000s

That said, long and sort is as follows:
Power Side:
Pin 30 of Relay to Battery with 12 gauge wire or greater
Pin 87 of Relay to Fuse(s) Either 1 15 Amp fuse or 2 7.5Amp Fuses
Fuse(s) to Light(s) 16 gauge or better for 55W bigger gauge for higher watt bulb
Light Ground to a good chassis ground point

Switching Side
Pin 86 from power source (High Beam Trigger if you'd like) - can be tied to Pin 30
Pin 85 to interior switch
Interior switch to chassis ground
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Unfortunately the 500/700FF don't come with a nice of a pre-wired setup, nor as good of quality relay/diagram. I've installed sets of both these and the FF1000s

That said, long and sort is as follows:
Power Side:
Pin 30 of Relay to Battery with 12 gauge wire or greater
Pin 87 of Relay to Fuse(s) Either 1 15 Amp fuse or 2 7.5Amp Fuses
Fuse(s) to Light(s) 16 gauge or better for 55W bigger gauge for higher watt bulb
Light Ground to a good chassis ground point

Switching Side
Pin 86 from power source (High Beam Trigger if you'd like) - can be tied to Pin 30
Pin 85 to interior switch
Interior switch to chassis ground
ohh damn, that sucks.. whoops

i suppose if all else fails, listen to this guy
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Switching Side
Pin 86 from power source (High Beam Trigger if you'd like) - can be tied to Pin 30
Bumping an old thread. Can you identify the High Beam trigger (where that wire may be)? I started this install a year ago but got busy, then winter came. I have everything connected but the wire to the battery and the trigger.

I have driving lights, so I want them on with my high beams only which I believe means I have to connect to the high beam ground?

And the directions that come with them are useless for Subaru's and their sneaky 'ground switched' wiring...

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actually, i have 2 extra sets of hella 1000s
FF1000 kits? They're not for sale, are they?
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Bumping an old thread. Can you identify the High Beam trigger (where that wire may be)?
I did my install awhile ago so forgot all the details... the negative ground was a pain to figure out though. For the high beam trigger, I just tapped into the wire behind the headlight bulb socket. To find out the correct wire for your model year, a volt meter on the socket will be able to tell you the high beam trigger. Hope this helps
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