Anyone retrofit Hella Projectors into an 04?

BrysImpreza · 05-03-2008, 11:49 AM

I have been looking into this for a bit and have come to the conclusion these will work for what I wanna do.
Anyone try this yet?

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Handsdown · 05-03-2008, 12:29 PM

those projectors, if there's space for them(they really aren't that big at all, more than enough space in 2004 lights)...

are great lighting and probably the easiest projectors in the world to mount, align, and install.

they're sealed units so you don't have to worry about weather or moisture getting in. you don't even have to put them behind optical plastic or glass, they have glass on them so you can mount them in the grill or other exposed places(that's what they're meant for)

they're great lighting, using the awesomely intense H9 bulb and casting a very nice beam in true hella tradition.

and, best of all, they're 60 bucks a piece for lowbeam and you don't need the highbeams because you can just use your stock hi's

HID is definitely way better in output, but will be more expensive anyway you cut it. these don't require a new wiring harness(just splice or get a plug adapter) and are easier to work with than hid.

definitely should work if you want sharp cutoff and a nice beam. i can't promise they'll look too great without making some custom shrouds, but you don't have to look at them, you just have to look at what they do.

maybe you could describe exactly what you mean by 'what you wanna do'? what's your situation, goals, restraints?

ptirmal · 05-03-2008, 01:53 PM

There are much better projectors to retrofit into an 04... If you're going to go through the effort to retro them might as well make them count with hid projectors...

You don't need sealed units because you have a front lense on your headlights...

Handsdown · 05-03-2008, 04:01 PM

Make it count?
Sure, if you have the means, go for HID. it's definitely worth it if you drive at night and need to see where you're going.
but do you really mean to say that if you have 300 hp, you shouldn't spend just a little bit of money to get 350 when you could spend a lot and get 500?
if he's happy with halogen, this is a great bang for the buck and will be a great learning experience with very very worthwhile results...
if he wants to put HIDs in them, i agree with you... don't do HID unless you do HID in HID optics. get tsx or s2k fx35 projectors.
but if he's going to keep them halogen, why not? these are well worth the money.

Sealed?
Sure you don't need it... but hey, one less thing to worry about. with HID projectors you have to seal the lights up PERFECTLY or risk damaging hundreds worth of equipment.

BrysImpreza · 05-03-2008, 06:26 PM

Well, even Halogen H9's have a fantastic output, but there are numerous 5000K HID kits available.

I plan on replacing the low beams with projectors, upgrade the bulbs to HIDs eventually, and to keep the clean look I could go slightly "cheesy" and do some 4" angel eye surrounds, or a commercial table / counter 4" aluminum grommet.

My ex had these projectors in her aftermarket Hella Focus headlights, I put a set of 4500K H9's in hers and they were amazing

jdubya301 · 05-04-2008, 04:38 AM

if you are going to go through the hassle of retrofitting projectors into your stock housings, at least do HID.

try to find a set of s2k or tsx projectors. they frikkin rock, and wont cost u much more than the hella set.

Handsdown · 05-04-2008, 04:41 AM

yeah if you're going to spend the money on hid, forget the H9, get D2s projectors used and use those.

the hellas should only be done for a 200 dollar max cap budget.

ptirmal · 05-05-2008, 11:26 AM

Yea the way I read it was down the road hid was going to happen... and although the h9 projectors are good with hid they are definitely not up to par with some real hid projectors...

steverx05 · 05-05-2008, 11:57 AM

I vote for some TSX projectors over the Hella ones. They would work better in the peanut style headlights than the ones you pictured. Plus they are fairly inexpensive, have a really nice sharp cutoff with lots of color, and have mounting holes in each corner similar to the Hella projectors, which make them very easy to mount.

Swing by high-intensity.org sometime to get some great info for your retrofit.

NewShockerGuy · 05-06-2008, 10:49 AM

My vote is s2k. That's what I have... w0w ...

You won't be disappointed...

-Nigel

jdubya301 · 05-06-2008, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewShockerGuy

My vote is s2k. That's what I have... w0w ...

You won't be disappointed...

-Nigel

yeah, have to say i'd second that.. s2ks are siiiiick

steverx05 · 05-06-2008, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdubya301

yeah, have to say i'd second that.. s2ks are siiiiick

I agree too, the s2k's are amazing, I love mine. But as far as cost and finding a pair...I think the TSX might be a better value for someone just starting out with their first retrofit.

NewShockerGuy · 05-06-2008, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steverx05

I agree too, the s2k's are amazing, I love mine. But as far as cost and finding a pair...I think the TSX might be a better value for someone just starting out with their first retrofit.

While I agree with you on this 100%.. I also look at it with me as yes it's more expensive yet I know I have the best... I looked at my friend's tsx retro and though it is DEFINATLY much much better than the stock sti headlights when comparing the two the s2k is so clean and crisp...

But this is also comparing the two... if you never saw s2k projectors then you can't compare it and that is an awesome choice! ..

I know with me if I would have gone the tsx route and then saw someone that had s2k I would have regretted it and probably sold them off and bought them.. which in the long run would probably cost me more money..lol

But yea, either way both are good.. just depends on if you want to be in "awe" of the light output...lol

I got JDM fogs before my retro and was like this is SWEEEET!
After the retro I don't even freaking use the fogs.. there is no need.. infact I HARDLY even use my damn high beams there is just that much more light being thrown out and the cut off/sharpness is just w0w.!

:-)

-Nigel

steverx05 · 05-06-2008, 07:15 PM

I also don't use my fog lights anymore

And I also sold the first retrofit I made (TSX) so I could have money to build my current retrofit (S2K)...so you do speak the truth Nigel and I couldn't agree with you more haha

BrysImpreza · 05-06-2008, 10:06 PM

Budget being the main constraint, I think I am going to try the Hellas and stay Halogen, they cannot be any worse than the stock ones and even my dad's 05 LGT stock projectors are a million times better than my 04's.

Plus, this time next year I'll be rocking a 2009 Honda Fit, the compromise of buying my TS and giving up my FXT has not been worth it, the gas mileage is not that much greater, so if I am going to be slow, I might as well get 42.8mpg highway (Edmunds / Autoblog)

Handsdown · 05-06-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrysImpreza

Plus, this time next year I'll be rocking a 2009 Honda Fit, the compromise of buying my TS and giving up my FXT has not been worth it, the gas mileage is not that much greater, so if I am going to be slow, I might as well get 42.8mpg highway (Edmunds / Autoblog)

Forget the lighting on the impreza, and forget the 2009. if you can, pick up a 2008....

way stiffer chassis, and the 09 will 'sport' a premium where the 08's are being herded off the lots to make room.

fit ftw.

forget putting money into the ts if you're just going to trade it or sell it, it's not worth the 120 bucks for a few months of use that will drive the value down.

jdubya301 · 05-07-2008, 12:45 PM

i wouldnt even bother with the hellas.

if they dont come out too great (which i dont think they will), you may have trouble selling the car or the headlamps.

raptorboy6996 · 05-08-2008, 12:57 PM

Anytime I see someone that is looking for info about retrofits and HID stuff I just tell them to go talk to lightwerkz. He know everything about all of that stuff. Check out his site.

http://lightwerkz.net/

-Dan

steverx05 · 05-08-2008, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raptorboy6996

Anytime I see someone that is looking for info about retrofits and HID stuff I just tell them to go talk to lightwerkz. He know everything about all of that stuff. Check out his site.

http://lightwerkz.net/

-Dan

Did you miss all of the great info some of us gave out in this thread and like a bazillion other lighting threads on here? Yes Caesar is an awesome guy and knows his stuff, but there are lots of members on here who have just as much knowledge as he has and are very capable of helping out

Handsdown · 05-08-2008, 08:41 PM

and Caesar is busy, the last thing he needs is a bunch of n00bs asking him the same questions he's already answered in five hundred threads on here.

i refer them to him if they're ready and willing to pay a professional for quality, high performance lighting and labor.

otherwise i refer them to another master of lighting knowledge, the ****ing search button.

05-03-2008, 11:49 AM	#1
BrysImpreza Scooby Guru Member#: 3102 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Northern, CT Vehicle: 2012 Sport Limited Ice Silver	Anyone retrofit Hella Projectors into an 04? I have been looking into this for a bit and have come to the conclusion these will work for what I wanna do. Anyone try this yet? From Rallylights.com * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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05-03-2008, 12:29 PM	#2
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	those projectors, if there's space for them(they really aren't that big at all, more than enough space in 2004 lights)... are great lighting and probably the easiest projectors in the world to mount, align, and install. they're sealed units so you don't have to worry about weather or moisture getting in. you don't even have to put them behind optical plastic or glass, they have glass on them so you can mount them in the grill or other exposed places(that's what they're meant for) they're great lighting, using the awesomely intense H9 bulb and casting a very nice beam in true hella tradition. and, best of all, they're 60 bucks a piece for lowbeam and you don't need the highbeams because you can just use your stock hi's HID is definitely way better in output, but will be more expensive anyway you cut it. these don't require a new wiring harness(just splice or get a plug adapter) and are easier to work with than hid. definitely should work if you want sharp cutoff and a nice beam. i can't promise they'll look too great without making some custom shrouds, but you don't have to look at them, you just have to look at what they do. maybe you could describe exactly what you mean by 'what you wanna do'? what's your situation, goals, restraints?

05-03-2008, 01:53 PM	#3
ptirmal Scooby Specialist Member#: 82243 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Philly Vehicle: 07' Acura TL-S 11' Ducati Monster 796	There are much better projectors to retrofit into an 04... If you're going to go through the effort to retro them might as well make them count with hid projectors... You don't need sealed units because you have a front lense on your headlights...

05-03-2008, 04:01 PM	#4
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	Make it count? Sure, if you have the means, go for HID. it's definitely worth it if you drive at night and need to see where you're going. but do you really mean to say that if you have 300 hp, you shouldn't spend just a little bit of money to get 350 when you could spend a lot and get 500? if he's happy with halogen, this is a great bang for the buck and will be a great learning experience with very very worthwhile results... if he wants to put HIDs in them, i agree with you... don't do HID unless you do HID in HID optics. get tsx or s2k fx35 projectors. but if he's going to keep them halogen, why not? these are well worth the money. Sealed? Sure you don't need it... but hey, one less thing to worry about. with HID projectors you have to seal the lights up PERFECTLY or risk damaging hundreds worth of equipment.

05-03-2008, 06:26 PM	#5
BrysImpreza Scooby Guru Member#: 3102 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Northern, CT Vehicle: 2012 Sport Limited Ice Silver	Well, even Halogen H9's have a fantastic output, but there are numerous 5000K HID kits available. I plan on replacing the low beams with projectors, upgrade the bulbs to HIDs eventually, and to keep the clean look I could go slightly "cheesy" and do some 4" angel eye surrounds, or a commercial table / counter 4" aluminum grommet. My ex had these projectors in her aftermarket Hella Focus headlights, I put a set of 4500K H9's in hers and they were amazing

05-04-2008, 04:38 AM	#6
jdubya301 Scooby Specialist Member#: 139076 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Scranton PA Vehicle: 2002 stg2 wagon 03 suzuki sv650s	if you are going to go through the hassle of retrofitting projectors into your stock housings, at least do HID. try to find a set of s2k or tsx projectors. they frikkin rock, and wont cost u much more than the hella set.

05-04-2008, 04:41 AM	#7
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	yeah if you're going to spend the money on hid, forget the H9, get D2s projectors used and use those. the hellas should only be done for a 200 dollar max cap budget.

05-05-2008, 11:26 AM	#8
ptirmal Scooby Specialist Member#: 82243 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Philly Vehicle: 07' Acura TL-S 11' Ducati Monster 796	Yea the way I read it was down the road hid was going to happen... and although the h9 projectors are good with hid they are definitely not up to par with some real hid projectors...

05-05-2008, 11:57 AM	#9
steverx05 Scooby Specialist Member#: 128269 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2007 STI Limited [ugm] #311	I vote for some TSX projectors over the Hella ones. They would work better in the peanut style headlights than the ones you pictured. Plus they are fairly inexpensive, have a really nice sharp cutoff with lots of color, and have mounting holes in each corner similar to the Hella projectors, which make them very easy to mount. Swing by high-intensity.org sometime to get some great info for your retrofit.

05-06-2008, 10:49 AM	#10
NewShockerGuy Scooby Specialist Member#: 40736 Join Date: Jul 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Pittsburgh, PA / FairFax, VA Vehicle: 2005 WRX STI Aspen White	My vote is s2k. That's what I have... w0w ... You won't be disappointed... -Nigel

05-06-2008, 07:15 PM	#14
steverx05 Scooby Specialist Member#: 128269 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Baltimore, MD Vehicle: 2007 STI Limited [ugm] #311	I also don't use my fog lights anymore And I also sold the first retrofit I made (TSX) so I could have money to build my current retrofit (S2K)...so you do speak the truth Nigel and I couldn't agree with you more haha

05-06-2008, 10:06 PM	#15
BrysImpreza Scooby Guru Member#: 3102 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Northern, CT Vehicle: 2012 Sport Limited Ice Silver	Budget being the main constraint, I think I am going to try the Hellas and stay Halogen, they cannot be any worse than the stock ones and even my dad's 05 LGT stock projectors are a million times better than my 04's. Plus, this time next year I'll be rocking a 2009 Honda Fit, the compromise of buying my TS and giving up my FXT has not been worth it, the gas mileage is not that much greater, so if I am going to be slow, I might as well get 42.8mpg highway (Edmunds / Autoblog)

05-07-2008, 12:45 PM	#17
jdubya301 Scooby Specialist Member#: 139076 Join Date: Jan 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Scranton PA Vehicle: 2002 stg2 wagon 03 suzuki sv650s	i wouldnt even bother with the hellas. if they dont come out too great (which i dont think they will), you may have trouble selling the car or the headlamps.

05-08-2008, 12:57 PM	#18
raptorboy6996 Scooby Specialist Member#: 140825 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Pou-Vegas Vehicle: 2011 STi SWP	Anytime I see someone that is looking for info about retrofits and HID stuff I just tell them to go talk to lightwerkz. He know everything about all of that stuff. Check out his site. http://lightwerkz.net/ -Dan

05-08-2008, 08:41 PM	#20
Handsdown Scooby Guru Member#: 29355 Join Date: Nov 2002 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: seattle Vehicle: 2003 GD6 Hate chall but i'mma maintain	and Caesar is busy, the last thing he needs is a bunch of n00bs asking him the same questions he's already answered in five hundred threads on here. i refer them to him if they're ready and willing to pay a professional for quality, high performance lighting and labor. otherwise i refer them to another master of lighting knowledge, the ****ing search button.