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Old 05-03-2008, 12:25 PM   #1
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Default expensive gas......cheap gas

http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home...S.-Is-So-Cheap

Most expensive places to buy gas
Rank Country Price/gal
1. Bosnia-Herzegovina $10.86
2. Eritrea $9.58
3. Norway $8.73
4. United Kingdom $8.38
5. Netherlands $8.37
6. Monaco $8.31
7. Iceland $8.28
8. Belgium $8.22
9. France $8.07
10. Germany $7.86
111. United States $3.45



Where gasoline is cheapest
Rank Country Price/gal
1. Venezuela 12 cents
2. Iran 40 cents
3. Saudi Arabia 45 cents
4. Libya 50 cents
5. Swaziland 54 cents
6. Qatar 73 cents
7. Bahrain 81 cents
8. Egypt 89 cents
9. Kuwait 90 cents
10. Seychelles 98 cents
45. United States $3.45
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:30 PM   #2
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puts everything in perspective doesnt it
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:41 PM   #3
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:47 PM   #4
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don't worry we'll catch up soon
Maybe that will finally ween this county off it's addiction to fugly, gas-guzzling SUV's.
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:49 PM   #5
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:56 PM   #6
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puts everything in perspective doesnt it
Actually it doesn't. Those countries have high gas prices because of all the taxes levied on gas, not just because gas is more expensive there. So gas buyers pay a higher price at the pump but make it up in government services and whatever else the gas taxes pay for.
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Old 05-03-2008, 12:59 PM   #7
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Maybe that will finally ween this county off it's addiction to fugly, gas-guzzling SUV's.
It's already started.

2007 was the first year in about a decade that compact car sales outnumbered Truck and SUV sales. (according to an NPR report I heard yesterday)
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:44 PM   #8
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puts everything in perspective doesnt it
yeah

when most of those places are either

a socialist run free everything societies so we tax gasoline-- and thus thus those who can afford cars-- all to hell

b awash in oil

c have so few cars-- thus no demand-- to support higher prices
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:47 PM   #9
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sure it does
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:53 PM   #10
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Actually it doesn't. Those countries have high gas prices because of all the taxes levied on gas, not just because gas is more expensive there. So gas buyers pay a higher price at the pump but make it up in government services and whatever else the gas taxes pay for.
not to mention that a few of the countries in that list have such an extensive public transit system that you almost never need to drive more then a few miles.

I listened to that yesterday and just wondered if the people who keep writing these articles have any idea how easy it is to travel through Europe without a car.
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Old 05-03-2008, 01:57 PM   #11
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i just made some gas. for free
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:10 PM   #12
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It's already started.

2007 was the first year in about a decade that compact car sales outnumbered Truck and SUV sales. (according to an NPR report I heard yesterday)
subsidize gas prices and radio stations!
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:20 PM   #13
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Actually it doesn't. Those countries have high gas prices because of all the taxes levied on gas, not just because gas is more expensive there
I'm so freakin' tired of the "gas is 47 dollars a gallon in Europe" argument. We don't live in Europe... and oil doesn't magically become more expensive there. European countries tax their gasoline more than the US, and their currency is currently much more valuable than our dollar. If the European governments wanted to make gasoline available for $4, they could do it.

Plus, I'd assume that European nations aren't a sprawled out as most of our suburbs that surround the cities here. People in the United States generally don't live close to where they work, and most don't have efficient mass transit systems to use instead of driving.
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It's like $18/gal in Somalia.
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Old 05-03-2008, 02:54 PM   #15
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I'm so freakin' tired of the "gas is 47 dollars a gallon in Europe" argument. We don't live in Europe... and oil doesn't magically become more expensive there.
I'm sick and tired of this argument. The citizens of those European countries have to pay that much per gallon, because of taxes or not it doesn't matter.

We bitch about $4.00 they bitch about $8.00. Whether or not it's taxes doesn't matter, they still pay out the ass.

On another note, how does supply and demand fit into all of this when we throw this into the equation.

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#1    	United States: 	20,730,000 bbl/day    	
#2   	China: 	6,534,000 bbl/day   	
#3   	Japan: 	5,578,000 bbl/day   	
#4   	Germany: 2,650,000 bbl/day   	
#5   	Russia: 2,500,000 bbl/day   	
#6   	India: 	2,450,000 bbl/day   	
#7   	Canada:	2,294,000 bbl/day   	
#8   	Korea, South: 2,149,000 bbl/day   	
#9   	Brazil: 2,100,000 bbl/day   	
#10   	France:	1,970,000 bbl/day   	
#11   	Mexico:	1,970,000 bbl/day   	
#12   	Italy: 	1,881,000 bbl/day   	
#13   	Saudi Arabia: 1,845,000 bbl/day   	
#14   	United Kingdom:	1,827,000 bbl/day   	
#15   	Spain:	1,573,000 bbl/day   	
#16   	Iran: 1,510,000 bbl/day   	
#17   	Indonesia: 1,168,000 bbl/day   	
#18   	Taiwan: 965,000 bbl/day   	
#19   	Netherlands: 946,700 bbl/day   	
#20   	Thailand: 900,000 bbl/day   	
#21   	Australia: 877,300 bbl/day
That's 3.17 times our closest competitor.
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Be interesting to see the avg daily usage / person for each of those countries..
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I'm sick and tired of this argument. The citizens of those European countries have to pay that much per gallon, because of taxes or not it doesn't matter.

We bitch about $4.00 they bitch about $8.00. Whether or not it's taxes doesn't matter, they still pay out the ass.


Of course it matters if the majority of their gas cost is taxes because they see the benefits (and savings) in other facets of their life. We don't, so paying $4/gal straight up with no public or personal benefit stings.
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Of course it matters if the majority of their gas cost is taxes because they see the benefits (and savings) in other facets of their life. We don't, so paying $4/gal straight up with no public or personal benefit stings.
But what do they pay at the end of the day for a gallon of gas?

You conveniently forgot that they have a metric ****load of other taxes that they pay out, things that help pay for these benefits and savings in other facets of their lives.
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But what do they pay at the end of the day for a gallon of gas?
Exactly. I'm off home to England to visit family in a few weeks and I'm dreading having to fill up the rental car at the petrol (gas) station. It was bad enough two years ago. They long since stopped selling by the gallon and switched over to litres - 4.5 to the Imperial gallon (3.78 to the US gallon).

When you're swiping the card to fill her up, it doesn't matter what percentage of your payment goes to the tax man, it's just bloody painful.

You really don't know how good you have it here in America, home of consumerism.
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$3.45???

where is this $3.45 you speak of?

Hell, i just filled up at $4.09 an hour ago.
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yeah im paying 1.37 Euro per liter over here in Italy for gas (diesel)
luckily I am allowed to purchase gas coupons on base... meaning i pay 1.08 Dollars, which is a huge difference... but im only allowed 170 liters a month like that

basically, buying gas here sucks... and i do drive a lot, theres no public transportation here except for the bus which sucks
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I'm sick and tired of this argument. The citizens of those European countries have to pay that much per gallon, because of taxes or not it doesn't matter.

We bitch about $4.00 they bitch about $8.00. Whether or not it's taxes doesn't matter, they still pay out the ass.

On another note, how does supply and demand fit into all of this when we throw this into the equation.

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#1        United States:     20,730,000 bbl/day        
#2       China:     6,534,000 bbl/day       
#3       Japan:     5,578,000 bbl/day       
#4       Germany: 2,650,000 bbl/day       
#5       Russia: 2,500,000 bbl/day       
#6       India:     2,450,000 bbl/day       
#7       Canada:    2,294,000 bbl/day       
#8       Korea, South: 2,149,000 bbl/day       
#9       Brazil: 2,100,000 bbl/day       
#10       France:    1,970,000 bbl/day       
#11       Mexico:    1,970,000 bbl/day       
#12       Italy:     1,881,000 bbl/day       
#13       Saudi Arabia: 1,845,000 bbl/day       
#14       United Kingdom:    1,827,000 bbl/day       
#15       Spain:    1,573,000 bbl/day       
#16       Iran: 1,510,000 bbl/day       
#17       Indonesia: 1,168,000 bbl/day       
#18       Taiwan: 965,000 bbl/day       
#19       Netherlands: 946,700 bbl/day       
#20       Thailand: 900,000 bbl/day       
#21       Australia: 877,300 bbl/day
That's 3.17 times our closest competitor.
Now that really puts it into perspective. live and learn, as slow as that seems for ....
well lets not start a hemi sized argument. I find much more rare than not anybody with a similar hunch I have had for over a fast passing decade.. to think there is any kind of shock and awe from current fuel prices makes my country even dumber. I am veteran. I am calling my country dumber.
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