Weird Rubbing sound from front driver side

ogboot · 05-04-2008, 01:23 PM

Well, I started having this rubbing sound. I have a dip in my driveway, and I have to turn the wheel to the left about the time that I get to the dip to back out into the street. Well, when i do i get this creaking/rubbing sound from the front driver side (i think). I can kinda feel it in the pedals and such, know what I mean? Well, I took a look under there, and my spring on my driver side doesn't appear to be sitting in the perch correctly: (yay pic)

May be a dumb question, but could this be the cause of my confounded rubbing? It appears to be pretty much touching towards the front of the car, but why only when the wheel is to the left?
And:
A) How did it get like that?
more importantly
B) How to I fix it?

I'm leaning towards a new suspension anyway to be honest:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1509104

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QuikWgn · 05-04-2008, 03:59 PM

It looks like the spring is rubbing against the inside of the shock tower. That will cause hideous noise. The spring rubbing against the edge of the perch like that=same thing. You could reinstall the strut and correct it as long as there is no serious damage during disassembly. I posted in the other thread too.

joeymdz · 05-04-2008, 05:39 PM

i have the same problem here

bmak21 · 05-05-2008, 09:04 AM

me 2 but it happend after my spring install 1 of the springs wont stay in the strut housing spot and it moves around side when i turn the steering wheels and makes a clunking noise

QuikWgn · 05-05-2008, 09:40 AM

There is a little pocket where the end of the spring should fit. It may not be properly seated in the pocket. There may be some kind of damage, we would need pics. If it happens when turning the bearing in the tophat maybe frozen or the little "tophat" shaped washer may be installed incorrectly or not at all.

ogboot · 05-05-2008, 10:58 AM

im wondering if i can smack my spring with a rubber mallet to pop it into place for the time being.

how bad is it to drive with it like that?

QuikWgn · 05-05-2008, 04:01 PM

Rubber mallet with tire off and suspension under no load "MAYBE", but it'd be better to disassemble/assemble that strut. It would be bad to continue to drive on it the way it is.

ogboot · 05-06-2008, 12:42 AM

dammit. there goes my saturday morning.

QuikWgn · 05-06-2008, 04:31 AM

Better safe than sorry.

joshh · 05-06-2008, 11:08 AM

Usually this doesn't happen with a stock suspension. It's usually cased because the suspension goes too far down (extention) and the shock separates from the spring. It's called droop.

ogboot · 05-06-2008, 01:09 PM

it started doing it after when i got it back from the tire shop.

joeymdz · 05-08-2008, 10:05 PM

any progress or answers?

R2GADGET · 05-09-2008, 12:26 PM

I have the same problem...

QuikWgn · 05-09-2008, 12:37 PM

This is not top secret stuff. If your springs have enough drop built in when the strut is @ full droop the spring comes unseated. Disassemble the strut and reseat springs and be more careful next time. This is why coilovers use helper springs. They make sure there is always pressure keeping the main spring againt the seats.

ogboot · 05-09-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuikWgn

This is not top secret stuff.

Lol good one.

What do you think the rebuild time will run me? I'm going to jump on it in the morning

QuikWgn · 05-09-2008, 02:58 PM

20 mins it's only 2 bolts on the knuckle(+big breaker bar), 3 on the tophat, and the top strut nut + jacking it up. You may just be able to take the wheel off and jack the car up with the wheel under no load reposition spring properly and lower. But really if the springs are not providing constant pressure on the hats when the suspension droops, you will have to find a more permanent/suitable solution like a spring with less drop.

ogboot · 05-09-2008, 06:02 PM

While we're on the subject, that does appear to be a stock wrx spring, correct? I bought the car used and assumed the suspension was OEM. Shock blown perhaps?

QuikWgn · 05-09-2008, 06:39 PM

Black spring + paint dots would usually mean a scoob spring(I didn't really look that closely at the pic originally). My guess would be the tire shop might have just f'd up. You won't know til you can check it under zero load/reassemble it. The strut will only extend so far no matter if it's good or blown.

05-04-2008, 01:23 PM	#1
ogboot Scooby Specialist Member#: 170906 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 2002 WRX psm	Weird Rubbing sound from front driver side Well, I started having this rubbing sound. I have a dip in my driveway, and I have to turn the wheel to the left about the time that I get to the dip to back out into the street. Well, when i do i get this creaking/rubbing sound from the front driver side (i think). I can kinda feel it in the pedals and such, know what I mean? Well, I took a look under there, and my spring on my driver side doesn't appear to be sitting in the perch correctly: (yay pic) May be a dumb question, but could this be the cause of my confounded rubbing? It appears to be pretty much touching towards the front of the car, but why only when the wheel is to the left? And: A) How did it get like that? more importantly B) How to I fix it? I'm leaning towards a new suspension anyway to be honest: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1509104 * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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05-04-2008, 03:59 PM	#2
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	It looks like the spring is rubbing against the inside of the shock tower. That will cause hideous noise. The spring rubbing against the edge of the perch like that=same thing. You could reinstall the strut and correct it as long as there is no serious damage during disassembly. I posted in the other thread too.

05-04-2008, 05:39 PM	#3
joeymdz Scooby Specialist Member#: 100715 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: oregon Vehicle: 05 Twin Scroll STI 430/430 DOM power	i have the same problem here

05-05-2008, 09:04 AM	#4
bmak21 Scooby Guru Member#: 165379 Join Date: Nov 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Bahston	me 2 but it happend after my spring install 1 of the springs wont stay in the strut housing spot and it moves around side when i turn the steering wheels and makes a clunking noise

05-05-2008, 09:40 AM	#5
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	There is a little pocket where the end of the spring should fit. It may not be properly seated in the pocket. There may be some kind of damage, we would need pics. If it happens when turning the bearing in the tophat maybe frozen or the little "tophat" shaped washer may be installed incorrectly or not at all.

05-05-2008, 10:58 AM	#6
ogboot Scooby Specialist Member#: 170906 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 2002 WRX psm	im wondering if i can smack my spring with a rubber mallet to pop it into place for the time being. how bad is it to drive with it like that?

05-05-2008, 04:01 PM	#7
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	Rubber mallet with tire off and suspension under no load "MAYBE", but it'd be better to disassemble/assemble that strut. It would be bad to continue to drive on it the way it is.

05-06-2008, 12:42 AM	#8
ogboot Scooby Specialist Member#: 170906 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 2002 WRX psm	dammit. there goes my saturday morning.

05-06-2008, 04:31 AM	#9
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	Better safe than sorry.

05-06-2008, 11:08 AM	#10
joshh Scooby Newbie Member#: 177117 Join Date: Apr 2008	Usually this doesn't happen with a stock suspension. It's usually cased because the suspension goes too far down (extention) and the shock separates from the spring. It's called droop.

05-06-2008, 01:09 PM	#11
ogboot Scooby Specialist Member#: 170906 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 2002 WRX psm	it started doing it after when i got it back from the tire shop.

05-08-2008, 10:05 PM	#12
joeymdz Scooby Specialist Member#: 100715 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: oregon Vehicle: 05 Twin Scroll STI 430/430 DOM power	any progress or answers?

05-09-2008, 12:26 PM	#13
R2GADGET Scooby Newbie Member#: 179600 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: Los Angeles Vehicle: 2002 WRX Not Pretty	I have the same problem...

05-09-2008, 12:37 PM	#14
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	This is not top secret stuff. If your springs have enough drop built in when the strut is @ full droop the spring comes unseated. Disassemble the strut and reseat springs and be more careful next time. This is why coilovers use helper springs. They make sure there is always pressure keeping the main spring againt the seats.

05-09-2008, 02:58 PM	#16
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	20 mins it's only 2 bolts on the knuckle(+big breaker bar), 3 on the tophat, and the top strut nut + jacking it up. You may just be able to take the wheel off and jack the car up with the wheel under no load reposition spring properly and lower. But really if the springs are not providing constant pressure on the hats when the suspension droops, you will have to find a more permanent/suitable solution like a spring with less drop.

05-09-2008, 06:02 PM	#17
ogboot Scooby Specialist Member#: 170906 Join Date: Feb 2008 Chapter/Region: South East Vehicle: 2002 WRX psm	While we're on the subject, that does appear to be a stock wrx spring, correct? I bought the car used and assumed the suspension was OEM. Shock blown perhaps?

05-09-2008, 06:39 PM	#18
QuikWgn Scooby Specialist Member#: 108557 Join Date: Feb 2006 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: King County Vehicle: 2003 PSM WRXWgn STG2 05 OBM LEGACY SDN	Black spring + paint dots would usually mean a scoob spring(I didn't really look that closely at the pic originally). My guess would be the tire shop might have just f'd up. You won't know til you can check it under zero load/reassemble it. The strut will only extend so far no matter if it's good or blown.