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Old 05-07-2008, 08:56 PM   #1
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Default '01 Forrester 105k service help/writeup??

I'm doing an 105k service on an '01 Forrester (2.5 SOHC) on Sunday, and I want to see if there is a write-up anywhere for it. I've tried searching to no avail. I can handle the timing belt swap no-problem, but would really like a few tips on getting the cam and crank seals in/out. If there is a complete write-up, or even torque specs, etc., for some of these bolts I'll be removing (especially the cam and crank pulley bolts) that somebody could point me in the right direction to it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!!
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:44 AM   #2
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:40 AM   #3
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I don't think I've ever seen cam/crank seal replacement pics. If you can't find it here, subaruforester.org or scoobymods it's probably not on the internet. You need a service manual.

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Old 05-09-2008, 05:15 PM   #4
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I don't think I've ever seen cam/crank seal replacement pics. If you can't find it here, subaruforester.org or scoobymods it's probably not on the internet. You need a service manual.

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Excellent, thanks!!. Now, where can I find a repair manual?? Will a Haynes/Chilton suffice??

I'd be glad to post a write-up once I get it done. Seems odd that such a simple/common service doens't have a DIY.

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Old 05-09-2008, 08:37 PM   #5
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Now, where can I find a repair manual?? Will a Haynes/Chilton suffice??

I'd be glad to post a write-up once I get it done. Seems odd that such a simple/common service doens't have a DIY.
Both Chilton and Haynes have recently published service manuals for the Subaru 2000-2006 Forester, Legacy, Outback and Baja. And you can find them for less than $20 each. The Chilton manual is ISBN 1563926237 and the Haynes manual is ISBN 15639256199.

You have to wonder, given the timing and coverage and use of the same car on the cover, whether they're the same manual, except re-organized to conform to each of the two brands' standard table of contents format.

Below are images of the covers.





Are you sure that Subaru recommends R&R for the cam- and crank-shaft seals for the 105K service?

BTW, you ought to learn how to spell "Forester" for future posts.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:17 AM   #6
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Haha, sorry, thanks for the correction!!

And thanks for the info, I picked one up today!! And no, Subaru does not specifically recommend cam/crank seals at the 100k service, but it's really a good idea to replace what, $20? worth of seals as a 'while you're in there' type of job.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:39 AM   #7
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Not sure what's on the official Subaru list. Yet my repairs on my mom's car has shown these.

Timing belt
water pump
trans & diff fluid

consider...
valve cover gaskets
hoses
plugs
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I think the general consensus, at least based upon the numerous threads I've read about timing belt changes, is that you should leave the cam seals alone unless they're leaking, since there supposed to be a royal bitch to replace. I can't say for certain how easy/difficult they are to do since I've never replaced them, so YMMV.

IIRC, exposing the crank seal is a simple matter of sliding the crank pulley off of the end of the crankshaft. Once you pull the main pulley off (the one that runs the alternator/AC belts) and get the timing pulleys exposed, the one on the crank should just slide off, I don't remember needing any tools to remove it the last time I did one, which was, admittedly, years ago. My memory could be foggy about that.

As far as the crank seal goes, just pop the old one out with a screwdriver and install the new one with an appropriately sized socket, at least that's how I was told to replace it by one of the techs at Heritage Subaru (I forget the man's name, it was years ago).

I didn't see it mentioned above, but hybrid gti 2 said to also consider valve cover gaskets hoses and spark plugs, I'd add to that list a thermostat, spark plug wires and a fuel filter (if it hasn't been changed in the last 30k or so). Also, make sure, should you decide to replace the valve cover gaskets, that they come with the O-rings that go around the spark plug holes. The last time I attempted to get gaskets for my car, all I got was the gasket that runs around the perimeter of the valve cover.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:18 AM   #9
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Yes, I am actually doing valve cover gaskets, as well as thermostat, water pump, timing belt/tensioner, plugs, wires, and a trans fluid drain/fill/filter change.
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