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Old 05-21-2008, 11:23 PM   #1
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What's up guys? I have 02 wrx with a 1-4 straight cut syncro-mesh PPG gear set from Andrewtech. I got the gear set last year about this time. Now a huge road trip from PA, to Michigan, to Texas, and then back to PA (almost 12kmiles) I need a new clutch. At the time of the install I still had a stock turbo with full HKS catback, MRT catted downpipe, HKS Header and uppipe. Along with a perrin short ram intake and Hyperflow huge top mount intercooler. So I went with their exedy oem sti replacement clutch. With the idea of maybe upgrading to a 16g. I skipped the 16g and went with the Blouch dominator 2.5 with perrin fuel rails and 860 modded injectors with a utec for engine management.

Now the question is which clutch do I buy now? My car is kindof a daily driver with the occasionaly strip or track day. I switch off between the bugeye and my Jeep depending on the weather and how much gas is in either vehicle. haha

Any suggestion? I haven't had a chance to call back down to andrewtech yet to see what they recommend. I'll have to give Edwin a call sometime this week.
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Old 05-22-2008, 09:02 AM   #2
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mine comes in today from http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1387883

i got the act + flywheel.
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:33 AM   #3
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You buy the same clutch whether you have OEM gears or a $700,000 Prodrive sequential box...you buy one based on your TQ level. READ the damned sticky threads....we have one titled Clutch and Flywheel FAQ that will answer your question.

P.S. Edwin doesn't work there anymore.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:43 AM   #4
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Depends on what your looking for and how much your willing to spend. I have had it with act and exedy twin disk. These gears can take the abuse. So read the stick as it's correct. Specially with clutch plate material. Then choose accordingly. Also some clutches are rebuildable if the pressure plate isn't chewed to hell. I would say Act is not one of them. Exedy twin disk is yet pricey.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:06 PM   #5
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I did read the sticky's. I've been doing research on here for about a week now and I was asking for an opinion not to get flamed. I was hoping for some of the more knowledgable members (unabomber)to help point me in the right direction. I'm real conservatively dyno'd at 374.2whp at 362.3 ft/lbs of tq with more power to be made. I have a water injection kit ready to go on. I failed to mention that in the first post. I'm sorry. Now with that said the car has to have decent drivability since I built my car to drive not to trailer every where.

P.S. thanks for the info about Edwin
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Old 05-23-2008, 11:43 PM   #6
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Well you need to figure out how much chatter your willing to deal with. As at this point many clutches will chatter. I'd look at the exedy twin disk. It's rebuildable and it grabs nice with higher power. Yet some complain about the chatter. Yet the pedal feel is near stock. Act uses a higher spring some people don't like that. Yet if it's organic act setup it wont chatter and hold fair. Yet if you race often I would consider the exedy twin disk. Yet your paying for what your getting. I would avoid anything carbon or kevlar as there nothing but trouble.
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Old 05-24-2008, 12:55 PM   #7
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Thanks Hybrid. I was looking into the exedy twin disc. I thought it may have been too much clutch since I do drive the car on the street a lot. How did you like the drivability of this clutch? I did like the fact that it was rebuildable. That was a selling point for me. Would the ACT organic hold with the potential numbers I hope to put out with a protune on meth?
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Old 05-24-2008, 01:23 PM   #8
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It chattered no matter how well you drove. Yet when you wanted instant power to drag or something crazy it was excellent. I have rebuilt my Act a few months back. Now kind of regret it. As it now wont hold when I want to launch. So never rebuild a standard clutch as the parts simply can't take a second round. As soon as this clutch is done. I'm going back to the twin disk. The instant grab allows for awsome lanches. The new disks are $500 to 700 for both. I only make 240whp but I drive the piss out of this thing. I have broken more trans parts then I care to. Now working on shift forks and front diff. I have 50k+ miles on these gears.

So it really depends on your drive style and what your pocket book allows. If you drag, lanch or like to power slide and do crazy stuff. Then exedy twin clutch is for you. Yet if you want the power to the ground. Act organic may do it. Yet you might want a sprung puck style with those numbers.

Sorry for misspelling. I am on my parents computer out of state. Mine has spell check. Yet I hope that clarifies my suggestions.
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Old 05-24-2008, 06:16 PM   #9
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Old 05-24-2008, 08:53 PM   #10
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u should surely buy my hyper single! lol
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Unabomber gets up on the wrong side of the bed every morning, don't worry about it.

I'm running an organic exedy stage 1, its holding fine for my green, might be enough for you... Pedal is a good bit heavier than stock though.

If you want some headroom, test drive a car with a puck clutch and see if you can deal with it, they'll handle 500+ ftlbs for the same price.
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Old 05-25-2008, 03:45 AM   #12
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Why would you do a straight cut gearset, then do it with syncros??
Dogboxes are incredibly easy to drive, and you use the clutch just like a syncro box, it doesnt have to be shifted in a way that jerks the car without using the clutch. Just a firm shift, then release the clutch like you normally would. . Its the straight cut gears that get old fast.

People seem to think that dog boxes are hard to drive or something.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:43 AM   #13
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holy yet
Hahah! I was thinking the same thing.
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