Subaru / Toyota coupe master thread *merged*

mygreenbird007 · 05-28-2008, 09:17 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/s...rsion-only-in/

"Inside Line is reporting that the new, RWD coupe being developed by Subaru and Toyota will only be sold as a Subaru in markets outside of Japan, while the Toyota version will remain exclusive to the Land of the Rising Sun. The report goes on to say that the coupe will be based off the Subaru Impreza (despite Toyota/Subaru's own press release saying that it's an "all-new" platform) and that power will be provided by a naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter boxer engine producing 220 hp at 6,500 rpm.

Toyota and Subaru are using the Integra Type-R as the performance benchmark for the new coupe, with a 103-inch wheelbase, a 2+2 seating layout and a curb weight of 2,866 pounds. As reported before, the coupe will debut in 2011 and pricing is expected to begin just south of $20,000."

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IMPREZ A WRX · 05-28-2008, 09:23 AM

wow! that car looks good!
I thought they said that the Subaru's model would be AWD since RWD is not a Subaru thing.
I just wish this thing had a Turbo. I guess the WRX will need a power bump too.

Beaverboy · 05-28-2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMPREZ A WRX

wow! that car looks good!
I thought they said that the Subaru's model would be AWD since RWD is not a Subaru thing.
I just wish this thing had a Turbo. I guess the WRX will need a power bump too.

They said they were exploring the possibility, they never said it would be AWD.

Mechie3 · 05-28-2008, 09:55 AM

As long as I can drop an STI engine in it I'm good to go.

scott_gunn · 05-28-2008, 10:06 AM

That looks nice. I hope the curb weight is accurate, but I have a feeling it will be more like 3100 lbs.

twiSTies · 05-28-2008, 10:17 AM

awesome!!

fusionchicken · 05-28-2008, 10:23 AM

keep the weight down, slap on a turbo on the engine and i'll be driving one. RWD is even better.

Nate8409 · 05-28-2008, 10:28 AM

^^^^My next car

design1stcode2nd · 05-28-2008, 10:44 AM

Sounds good but I’ll believe it when I see it.

rallymaniac · 05-28-2008, 10:49 AM

Now, finally something HOT from Subaru's department

I will be eyballing this as my next car too.

UniqueTII · 05-28-2008, 10:55 AM

So the current 2.5 makes 175 hp but the new 2.0 is going to make 220 without revving to the sky? Toyota's engineers really hit a home run if they can pull this one off.

If everything that's predicted turns out to be true I will buy one in a heartbeat.

subyfanatic · 05-28-2008, 11:00 AM

I'd hit iT!!

As much as I'd jump at a $20k coupe my best guess is it will probably $35k by 2011.

REX8 · 05-28-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueTII

So the current 2.5 makes 175 hp but the new 2.0 is going to make 220 without revving to the sky? Toyota's engineers really hit a home run if they can pull this one off.

If everything that's predicted turns out to be true I will buy one in a heartbeat.

At what RPMS does the 2.5l make its 175 HP at? Lower than 6500 I'm sure. So, maybe this motor does spin pretty well. With peak power at 6500, I'm guessing it revs to 7500 or so.

IMPREZ A WRX · 05-28-2008, 11:03 AM

I'm pretty sure this thing won't have any torque!

I'm really crossing my fingers for a Turbo version.

captclueless · 05-28-2008, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UniqueTII

So the current 2.5 makes 175 hp but the new 2.0 is going to make 220 without revving to the sky? Toyota's engineers really hit a home run if they can pull this one off.

If everything that's predicted turns out to be true I will buy one in a heartbeat.

Same here.

broosewee · 05-28-2008, 11:16 AM

Very awesome looking, but a RWD Subaru? That's gonna put a kink in their marketing strategy. Do it anyways!!!!!

UniqueTII · 05-28-2008, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REX8

At what RPMS does the 2.5l make its 175 HP at? Lower than 6500 I'm sure. So, maybe this motor does spin pretty well. With peak power at 6500, I'm guessing it revs to 7500 or so.

The '07 Legacy is rated at 175@6000. Even if this revs to 7500, 20% less displacement means coming up with an extra 45 horsepower will take more than just ~500 revs at redline. I hope they pull this off and then bring some of that magic into the Legacy STi. Please?

EDIT: Doing the math, if this engine makes as much torque at redline (assuming 7500) as the previous 2.5 did at peak power (6000), it will have 219 horsepower. If it makes as much torque at redline as the 2.5 did at peak, it will have over 240 hp. That's a pretty tall order without some new technology...or really high compression.

only1agam · 05-28-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mygreenbird007

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/s...rsion-only-in/

"Inside Line is reporting that the new, RWD coupe being developed by Subaru and Toyota will only be sold as a Subaru in markets outside of Japan, while the Toyota version will remain exclusive to the Land of the Rising Sun. The report goes on to say that the coupe will be based off the Subaru Impreza (despite Toyota/Subaru's own press release saying that it's an "all-new" platform) and that power will be provided by a naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter boxer engine producing 220 hp at 6,500 rpm.

Toyota and Subaru are using the Integra Type-R as the performance benchmark for the new coupe, with a 103-inch wheelbase, a 2+2 seating layout and a curb weight of 2,866 pounds. As reported before, the coupe will debut in 2011 and pricing is expected to begin just south of $20,000."

this 2.0 sounds like its from the NA STI concept with the 2.0.... if you look at that engine it looks incredibly compact

Weasel 555 · 05-28-2008, 11:27 AM

wow very nice i'd hit it

AVOID92x · 05-28-2008, 11:30 AM

I love ORANGE!

rock it!

sasquatch95 · 05-28-2008, 11:39 AM

that looks awesome...can't wait!

bulletproof4130 · 05-28-2008, 11:50 AM

Looks great but why not AWD

Mike Wevrick · 05-28-2008, 11:57 AM

^^AWD is impractical because the engine will be mounted farther back to improve the weight balance

C4NiNjA · 05-28-2008, 11:58 AM

because Toyota is running the show.

REX8 · 05-28-2008, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletproof4130

Looks great but why not AWD

Heavier, slower, worse weight distribution, etc. and its a sports car. All-weather utility is hardly a concern.

Plus, its not exactly going to be making the power that typically seen in pure sports machines with AWD.

Hard to think of a good reason to make a 200 hp sports car awd...

Flame suit on!

05-28-2008, 09:17 AM	#1
mygreenbird007 Scooby Specialist Member#: 154767 Join Date: Jul 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Harrisburg, PA Vehicle: 2004 PSM WRX ESP 35 2001 BRockchipP 2.5RS	Subaru / Toyota coupe master thread merged http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/s...rsion-only-in/ "Inside Line is reporting that the new, RWD coupe being developed by Subaru and Toyota will only be sold as a Subaru in markets outside of Japan, while the Toyota version will remain exclusive to the Land of the Rising Sun. The report goes on to say that the coupe will be based off the Subaru Impreza (despite Toyota/Subaru's own press release saying that it's an "all-new" platform) and that power will be provided by a naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter boxer engine producing 220 hp at 6,500 rpm. Toyota and Subaru are using the Integra Type-R as the performance benchmark for the new coupe, with a 103-inch wheelbase, a 2+2 seating layout and a curb weight of 2,866 pounds. As reported before, the coupe will debut in 2011 and pricing is expected to begin just south of $20,000." * Registered users of the site do not see these ads. Last edited by Hondaslayer; 10-13-2009 at 06:54 PM.

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05-28-2008, 09:23 AM	#2
IMPREZ A WRX * Banned * Member#: 172438 Join Date: Feb 2008	wow! that car looks good! I thought they said that the Subaru's model would be AWD since RWD is not a Subaru thing. I just wish this thing had a Turbo. I guess the WRX will need a power bump too.

05-28-2008, 09:55 AM	#4
Mechie3 Scooby Guru Member#: 120152 Join Date: Jul 2006 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Indy Vehicle: 2006 WRX, ESP 92 CNY Overall Pax Winner!	As long as I can drop an STI engine in it I'm good to go.

05-28-2008, 10:06 AM	#5
scott_gunn Scooby Specialist Member#: 4203 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Palm Harbor, FL Vehicle: 2002 WRX 5spd sedan Platinum Silver Metallic	That looks nice. I hope the curb weight is accurate, but I have a feeling it will be more like 3100 lbs.

05-28-2008, 10:17 AM	#6
twiSTies Scooby Specialist Member#: 98689 Join Date: Oct 2005 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Allentown, PA Vehicle: 2005 Impreza WRX STi Crystal Gray Metallic	awesome!!

05-28-2008, 10:23 AM	#7
fusionchicken Scooby Specialist Member#: 123777 Join Date: Aug 2006 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: socal	keep the weight down, slap on a turbo on the engine and i'll be driving one. RWD is even better.

05-28-2008, 10:28 AM	#8
Nate8409 Scooby Specialist Member#: 44034 Join Date: Sep 2003 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Maineish Vehicle: 2006 Global Cooler Black	^^^^My next car

05-28-2008, 10:44 AM	#9
design1stcode2nd Scooby Specialist Member#: 112178 Join Date: Apr 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MD Vehicle: 2008 Subaru WRX STI Spark Silver Metallic	Sounds good but I’ll believe it when I see it.

05-28-2008, 10:49 AM	#10
rallymaniac Scooby Specialist Member#: 52189 Join Date: Jan 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Elgin, IL Vehicle: 2006 MINIiiiiii :)	Now, finally something HOT from Subaru's department I will be eyballing this as my next car too.

05-28-2008, 10:55 AM	#11
UniqueTII Scooby Specialist Member#: 93040 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Ames, IA Vehicle: 2005 LGT Ltd. ABP	So the current 2.5 makes 175 hp but the new 2.0 is going to make 220 without revving to the sky? Toyota's engineers really hit a home run if they can pull this one off. If everything that's predicted turns out to be true I will buy one in a heartbeat.

05-28-2008, 11:00 AM	#12
subyfanatic Scooby Specialist Member#: 18276 Join Date: May 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Hellville, NJ Vehicle: 06 Legacy,07 Versa FEEL THE LOVE	I'd hit iT!! As much as I'd jump at a $20k coupe my best guess is it will probably $35k by 2011.

05-28-2008, 11:03 AM	#14
IMPREZ A WRX * Banned * Member#: 172438 Join Date: Feb 2008	I'm pretty sure this thing won't have any torque! I'm really crossing my fingers for a Turbo version.

05-28-2008, 11:16 AM	#16
broosewee Scooby Newbie Member#: 155938 Join Date: Aug 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: yonkers, ny Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX WRB	Very awesome looking, but a RWD Subaru? That's gonna put a kink in their marketing strategy. Do it anyways!!!!!

05-28-2008, 11:27 AM	#19
Weasel 555 world rally chucklehead Moderator Member#: 4168 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: N.Y. & U.K. Vehicle: 01 GC8 - W555 edition #4	wow very nice i'd hit it

05-28-2008, 11:30 AM	#20
AVOID92x Scooby Specialist Member#: 90606 Join Date: Jul 2005 Vehicle: 08 Civic Si Rallye Red	I love ORANGE! rock it!

05-28-2008, 11:39 AM	#21
sasquatch95 Scooby Specialist Member#: 17163 Join Date: Apr 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: New Jersey Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX Non-more-black	that looks awesome...can't wait!

05-28-2008, 11:50 AM	#22
bulletproof4130 NASIOC Supporter Member#: 173704 Join Date: Mar 2008 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MD Vehicle: 07 2.5 n/a 93 Honda Prelude JDM H22	Looks great but why not AWD

05-28-2008, 11:57 AM	#23
Mike Wevrick Scooby Guru Member#: 24654 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Scott heard 'round the world Vehicle: 1957 Taggart Comet www.saraseager.com	^^AWD is impractical because the engine will be mounted farther back to improve the weight balance

05-28-2008, 11:58 AM	#24
C4NiNjA Scooby Specialist Member#: 91964 Join Date: Jul 2005 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Sanford, NC Vehicle: 2003 Impreza WRX WRB 349.9/354 Epic Tuned	because Toyota is running the show.