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Old 06-01-2008, 12:15 AM   #1
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Default Hella 1000's VS 700's VS 500's?

What is the difference between all these lights? I see that they are all 55 watts. Can someone explain?

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Old 06-01-2008, 01:52 AM   #2
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The size varies, giving them all different light outputs. The reflector design varies, giving them all different beam patterns. Assuming you're talking about the FF variants of all of them:

FF1000: Brightest of all the lights in the hot-spot in the center. Smallest hot-spot (though still very large in the distance) [Read: most tightly focused beam]. Incredibly even pattern (no hot or dark areas in the beam). Highest intensity outside of the hot spot with very wide coverage. Deepest reflector. Curved lens. Best quality of construction. Mount is a fraking PITA to deal with.

FF700: 2nd brightest of the lights (but nearly as bright as the FF1000). Much larger hot-spot. Hot spot has very visible (and to me, distracting) hot and dark regions in it (beam is not even). Very dark outside of hot spot. Shallow reflector design. Lesser build quality. Flat lens. Mount is easier to adjust.

FF500: 3rd brightest. All other comments identical to FF700.



Personally, I prefer the FF1000 because of the high intensity in the hot spot, the REALLY even beam, and the good off-axis illumination. To me, the 700 and 500 just aren't focused enough, spending too much light in places I don't really give a **** about because there's already coverage there from the high-beams.
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Old 06-01-2008, 07:37 PM   #3
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Thank You for that throught run down! I am glad I already have the 1000's I am just now thinking about getting a 2nd set before I install them though. I am looking at light bars and might get a bar that holds 4 lights...

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cool. I've been wondering the same thing.

Although I already bought a second set of 1000s. The beam pattern with just two isn't wide enough for really sharp corners.
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ff1000s are awesome.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:37 PM   #6
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I am debating getting a light bar and going for 2 or 4 lights or just throwing them in my fogs?
or all of the above....
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go for 4.
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you won't be able to utilize the full potential of the 1000s by putting 'em in the oem fog locations.. go for the bar with the 1000s
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you won't be able to utilize the full potential of the 1000s by putting 'em in the oem fog locations.. go for the bar with the 1000s
Exactly. It really bugs me when I see driving lights mounted down low.

They need to be up above the bumper to get light down the road. Otherwise it all goes right in front of the car and up in the air.
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^^
and into people's eyes if you get the right distance apart...
get 500 fogs if you want to mount them on the fog light position or get a light bar and FF1000
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I am still looking into light bars but would rather not spend $300. I have a few in mind but they are kind $$. I will put the 1000's on a light bar for now and maybe get some 500's for the fogs.

http://www.rallylights.com/hella/Lamp_Mounting_kits.asp
I like HL29011 but that price seems a bit high..
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i have my ff1ks mounted in the stock fog location. they are REALLY REALLY hard to aim.

i know its not the best spot for them, but i was not interested in a light bar. once aimed, they are not bad at all. i know having them up higher would be optimal, but having them in the fog opening really isnt too bad.

heres some pics, theyre at page 2. the drivers side still needs to be aimed a bit, so keep that in mind when you look at the pics. the 1ks are awesome as a highbeam supplement

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1482552
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:53 PM   #13
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Cool Thanks for that link. That is a great post...
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Cool Thanks for that link. That is a great post...
if it is nice out this weekend i wil go on some back roads and take some pics. shooting light on a wall from 60ft back doesnt give you much of a taste of what these lights can do. i will also try to get a pic on the highway (late at night w/no traffic) with all the little reflector marker thingies to show you how far these lights reach.

its great. its pretty much impossible to outdrive the ff1000s. even at the stock fog location
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its great. its pretty much impossible to outdrive the ff1000s. even at the stock fog location
You can DEFINITELY over-drive the FF1000s, even at legal speeds. It just is moved up a bit.

And pics, which I've posted before, but can't find the post to link to. Note that these were taken with an extremely wide-angle lens covering 170 degrees horizontally and the exposure and processing were constant for all images:

Stock low beams:


Stock low+high beams:


Stock low+high beams and Hella FF1000 Driving Lights:


Hella FF1000 Driving Lights only:





If you look closely, you'll notice that with the FF1000's, you can see farther to the side (which helps IMMENSELY in spotting deer about to jump onto the road) and a significantly longer distance (which looks like slightly higher in this pic because of the way the trees are being foreshortened).
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