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Old 06-03-2008, 03:49 PM   #1
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Default You'd think people would be concerned about more important things than Gay Marriage

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SAN FRANCISCO - An initiative that would again outlaw gay marriage in California has qualified for the November ballot, the Secretary of State announced Monday.
California Secretary of State Debra Bowen said a random check of signatures submitted by the measure's sponsors showed that they had gathered enough names for it to be put to voters.
The measure would amend the state constitution to "provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
If approved by a majority of voters on Nov. 4, the amendment would overturn the recent California Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in the state. It is similar to gay marriage bans that have been adopted in 26 other states.

"This signifies the fact that California voters really do favor and will come out to vote for the protection of historic marriage," said Ron Prentice, executive director of ProtectMarriage.com, a coalition of religious and social conservative groups behind the initiative.
In response to the court's May 15 ruling, California public health officials already have amended marriage license applications to read "Party A" and "Party B" instead of bride and groom. Local officials have been told to start issuing the revised licenses to same-sex couples on June 17.
Gay men and lesbians would still be able to get married between then and the election, even with the initiative pending, unless the court agrees to stay its decision until after Nov. 4, as the amendment's sponsors have requested.
If the marriages proceed during the next five months, it is unclear whether they would be nullified if the amendment passes. Some legal scholars have said the state Supreme Court might get called on again to settle that question.


Kate Kendell, executive director of the San Francisco-based National Center for Lesbian Rights, said gay marriage advocates have already launched a campaign to defeat the measure.
"There is just so much at stake, now, in terms of what kind of state we are going to live in and what values we are going to uphold," Kendell said.
To qualify for the ballot, the measure needed 694,354 petition signatures, an amount equal to 8 percent of the votes cast during the last governor's race.
Proponents submitted 1,120,801 signatures in late April, and county clerks determined the measure qualified by verifying the validity of 3 percent of the signatures they received, according to Bowen.
Recent polls have found California voters are about evenly split on whether gay couples should be allowed to marry.
I'm still very much on the point that the arguements that tend to be presented against gay marriage are religious in nature and are in violation of seperation of church and state.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:50 PM   #2
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let people do what they want in their own home.
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:50 PM   #3
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:51 PM   #4
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You'd think people would be concerned about more important things than Gay Marriage

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Old 06-03-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
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I love the "protect the historic sacred institution of marriage" cop-out.

I'm sorry, all I heard was "I hate that which is different from my line of thinking, and am too narrow-minded and stuck up to see that there's people that are different from me and it's okay."
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:01 PM   #6
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I think alot of them don't really realize that two that are part of a civil union can often still be denied spouse health insurance, couples benefits, and I think tax deductions as well.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:02 PM   #7
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OMG, it's about protecting the sanctity of marriage....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




b/c as soon as gays are allowed to marry all those redneck husband will start getting drunk, beating their wives and then bringing their girlfriends on to Jerry Springer to confront their wives...



wait a minute ?!
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:03 PM   #8
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yeah, you'd think.

But, people are idiots who like to control other people's lives.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:04 PM   #9
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:06 PM   #10
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Someone go find someone on NASIOC that doesn't support gay marriage / would be willing to argue with me. I really feel like debating this.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:07 PM   #11
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you can't get legally married, can you?
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It's really none of my business if some dude wants to suck off another dude and have have him put it in his ass right before shooting his load on his face.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:09 PM   #13
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bah, even the religious people have no argument against it. They are basically removing free will and therefore doing gods job...I read in a book that that pisses him off.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:09 PM   #14
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Someone go find someone on NASIOC that doesn't support gay marriage / would be willing to argue with me. I really feel like debating this.
I can try....

gays are anomaly of nature since the couples don't produce offspring and propagate our species they should be shunned in the society - otherwise glorifying homosexuality could eventually lead to our extinction

that's the best argument I can come up with...
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I'm still very much on the point that the arguements that tend to be presented against gay marriage are religious in nature and are in violation of seperation of church and state.
That phrase, I don't think it means what you think it means.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:11 PM   #16
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Add "steroids in sports" to this list. Stupid god lovers and their desire to be superior...
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gays are anomaly of nature since the couples don't produce offspring and propagate our species they should be shunned in the society - otherwise glorifying homosexuality could eventually lead to our extinction

that's the best argument I can come up with...
In order for that to happen heterosexual couples would have to be in gradual decline. In other words, the percentage of homos in our gene pool would have to be increasing to the point that it overtook the percentage of heteros.

That'll never happen. I see no point in regulating what people do behind closed doors providing that it's not potentially harmful to other people.
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Sanctity of marriage?

Yeah, let's get the divorce rate below 50% before we start preaching about the 'sanctity of a union before God.'
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I'm not sure why people really are so against it. It will have absolutely zero impact on hetero folks.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:12 PM   #20
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Wanna know how I know you are gay?



because you could have just said this:

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In order for that to happen heterosexual couples would have to be in gradual decline. In other words, the percentage of homos in our gene pool would have to be increasing to the point that it overtook the percentage of heteros.

That'll never happen. I see no point in regulating what people do behind closed doors providing that it's not potentially harmful to other people.
I'm heavily in favor of more hot lesbian couples and less baby-factory soccermoms
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Someone go find someone on NASIOC that doesn't support gay marriage / would be willing to argue with me. I really feel like debating this.
I don't "support" it.

but I don't "oppose" it either.
I simply do not give a ****.

I guess that's not conducive to debate.
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I'm heavily in favor of more hot lesbian couples and less baby-factory soccermoms
Try hitting on a lesbian some time. No matter what angle you take, no matter what approach you have, they are totally impervious to any advances whether subtle or overt.
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Yeah, let's get the divorce rate below 50% before we start preaching about the 'sanctity of a union before God.'
Get out mah brain.
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And this is why you don't get the government involved in things that don't concern it. Opening the door to having them 'legitimize' your marriage means they get to tell you who can get marriaged. Funny how the same minds who think empowering the government will right the world's wrongs are the same ones now screaming about that power being wielded against them.

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