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Old 05-15-2001, 01:48 PM   #1
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Post New to subarus, got some questions

Alright i dont want any kind of flamming at me but i have some questions because i have never owned or driven in a subaru.

as a graduation present, my parents have decided to help me buy a car. After driving in my friend's modified 94 civic and beatin some a$$'s on some street drags im hooked on the adrenaline rush. Now my friend's dad is a test drievr and he drove the 02, WRX, and he loves it and is going to buy one, but besides that

ive been reading posts on here for awhile and you guys are syain that subarus will kick anything in the twisities, but then again since when do you race people on "twisities". now i am trying to choose between a wrx or a civic Si, or accord. I know you guys will recommend the subarus but coudl i get some actual facts about after market items to beef up some power and some little cosmetic things, ive looked online and in magazines and i cant hardly find anything.. perhaps im not looking in the right places.
This is going to be my first real car but the money is not really a big problem.
any insight would be greatly appreciated, thanks
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Old 05-15-2001, 01:50 PM   #2
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I recommend you get a Honda and rice it out properly for street racing. Please let your parents know the URL for the i-club so they can post when you get killed in an illegal drag.

Where do you race in the twisties? On a track.


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Old 05-15-2001, 01:53 PM   #3
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Well we don't always recommend a Subaru, especially to people like yourself who are so turned onto other vehicles.

But why buy a Honda if you're interested in straight-line racing? Go get yourself a Mustang or Camaro that you won't have to spend more then $1k on mods to get into the 12's.
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:00 PM   #4
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You seem to be living in Louisiana, so snow isn't issue.

If you want a lot of mods available to you for cheaper price, get a Honda/Acura. I used to own 2 of them (Accord and Civic) myself, and there are abundance of aftermarket parts for them. There are variety of engines, s/c, turbo, that you can put in also. For example, you can fit a Prelude engine in a Civic with a little modification.

If you want uniqueness, get a Subaru. There aren't that many modded Subarus around. I chose RS because I wanted to stay with coupe and I needed something good in snow. Living in upstate NY requires AWD. Also, there are a bunch of quality aftermarket parts available, but they are more expensive.

Generally, stock Subarus will give you better handling than stock Hondas. The reasons are Subaru uses H4 rather than I4, and it has AWD. You can change your supension setups on both vehicles to meet your satisfaction.

A good performance car can do 3 basic things very well: power, steer, and brake. Without those 3 things, you will lose.

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Old 05-15-2001, 02:02 PM   #5
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im sorry if i , uhh, sounded ignorant or something

im not intreseted in racing on a track, and to the person who said illegal street race, thats not what im talkin about. im talking about punching it when you see a friend or somethin come next to you at a street light, or something along those lines.

i do not wish to have cars like mustangs and camaro's. they do just not appeal to me, i was also looking into a subaru because there is a strong chance i may go to waterloo university in ontario, woudlnt mind the extra control.
im also just going by what my friends father said when he said just how much better the wrx was than any kind of honda

be gentile =)
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:20 PM   #6
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Well, first of all. Your taking the first step by coming here to find out some information. Don't worry, everyone is cool here. I've only been a 01RS owner for a short time and this place has all kinds of information to sort through. Even more that I thought.

Since I'm a Suby Newbie, I am the last guy to give advice "on all that is Subaru", but my first advice to you is to go and test drive all the vehicles your looking at.. It's apparent that your doing the research, but give the vehicles a try... and make sure you take your time during the test drive. Don't be in a hurry to bring the vehicle back...

Anyway, good luck on your decision.

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Old 05-15-2001, 02:36 PM   #7
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Hey dude.

Talk to your parents first - how much are they giving you, are they having any MUST HAVE things in mind ( Side airbag, ABS, back couch with condom holders, etc).

That will rule some of the cars out.
Then it si simple point comparison task.

Are Subies greatest cars out there? Noup. Are they cheapest. Noup.

However, they are good reliable for the most part cars. And AWD is great to have - Snow, rain, sleed what is that? i did not notice.

So, talk to your family, evaluate your needs and decide.

Eugene

PS: Test drives are cool and all but I would not rely on them too much if you planning to modify. TOTALLY changes feel of the car for the most part.
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:39 PM   #8
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If your primary goal is to be able to blow your buddies off the line at a stoplight, you might want to rethink your choices for a new car...
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:41 PM   #9
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since $$$$ is no object, you should come buy my 1963 Schwinn Pedalmaster for $23,995 plus tax & liscence, so I can have my REX j/k

really though...if yer gonna buy it, go out and test a few car, don't take other peeps opinions, DRIVE IT YERSELF!!!! If you have $$$ no dealer will refuse a test drive. Plus you're gonna have to drive it, none of us will.

Good Luck...P.S. there is alotta cool cars coming out in the near future...you may wanna check them out too.
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Old 05-15-2001, 02:42 PM   #10
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get a MKIV Supra Twin Turbo.



I love mine.

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Old 05-15-2001, 03:08 PM   #11
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thanks to everyone, if anyone around new orleans woudlnt mind letting me chill with them and their subbies let me know
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Old 05-15-2001, 03:34 PM   #12
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I don't really consider the Si to be in the same class as a WRX. If you want to street race look for a Prelude, Integra, DSM, MR2, or a 1.8T. These are all cheaply modded cars that will be good street racers. That's not to say the WRX isn't, because it is. It will kill quite a few cars no mods needed.
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Old 05-15-2001, 03:40 PM   #13
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im talking about punching it when you see a friend or somethin come next to you at a street light, or something along those lines.
Oh, my mistake, I thought you meant going really fast on public roads in competition with another car. Oops, you did.


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Old 05-15-2001, 03:59 PM   #14
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KrelKor,

Don't let our gruff-ness give you a sour taste. We're way friendly, except when you mix your sentences with the "H" word. We don't like Honda's, we don't care for people comparing them to Sube's either. Essentially they are apples and oranges in comparison. There is plenty of aftermarket for our cars. It's not all cheap however (compared to Camaro etc).

If you want to beat people off the line, and you want a reliable car, and get good manuverability in bad conditions, go ahead and get a Honda Civic Si. Front wheel drive will do you fine in the weather. Hit a junk yard for some Integra headers and upgrade it to a type R. BUT if you want a car that will _really_ handle, Subaru baby! Our 4wd cannot be beat in the corners, esp. when you weigh it against other 4wd cars for the price(Audi).

By the way, you'd better prep that Honda right when you get it. If you don't someone is going to pull up next to you at a stop light in an *ahem* _stock_ WRX and make you wish you re-considered on that Civic. It won't be me, I don't race people at lights, it can be dangerous, not to mention illegal. I suggest you save that stuff for the track. Besides, if you want to know if you are hot stuff, you'll only find out when you are on the tarmac with other people who *know* what they are doing.

My $0.02

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p.s. Ben, you almost killed me with your comment! ROFL!
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Old 05-15-2001, 04:06 PM   #15
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The Honda is a very common ride. Be unique and buy a SUBARU!

Buy magazines and read reviews. If you're not convinced go to a dealer and test drive one.

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Old 05-15-2001, 05:57 PM   #16
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A lot of car companies are starting to make hopped up cars off the box which includes the WRX. Subes have excellent handling right off the line as well as potential for big modifications, if that's your thing. But most people get it because they like Subes. And yeah, it handles turns like it's on rails. But still keep in mind that it's 70% driver, 30% car. Once I went AWD, I'll never go back to FWD.
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Old 05-15-2001, 07:52 PM   #17
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Ill give you some straight answers:

0-60's

Stock Accord V6- 8 seconds or so
Stock Civic Si- 7 seconds or so
Stock WRX- 5.6 or so

1/4 mile

Stock Accord V6- 16 second range
Stock Si- 15 second range, closer to 16 second range
Stock WRX- 14.4 or so

That good?
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Old 05-16-2001, 01:22 PM   #18
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Thanks to everyone
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Old 05-16-2001, 01:34 PM   #19
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The ONLY H badged competition for the WRX 5spd is the Type-R. The Lude is a GT, the civic's are econoboxes, and the Other teg's are not worth the $$. The Type-R is showing its age, but is still a very capible ride. The real downside is the high insurance, and putting up with the thefts, vandaism, etc. The WRX may get to be like the Type-R in that respect though....

Also if you can't get a WRX right now, the other models are just as good in thier own respects. Someone was beating "sports" cars in a rental Legacy with a Auto around a racetrack. ALL the lower impreza's have the 2.5L now.
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Old 05-16-2001, 04:05 PM   #20
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I think everyone post good comments. If you want to save money on a *decent* car and mod it up for an extra 20 horses get an SI. I you want a car that comes with more extra horses, all-wheel drive, and gets you noticed get a WRX. If you do like racing at lights, the WRX will bring the competitors to you.
The aftermarket for Subaru's is always growing. granted you cant find 50 different versions of the same part, i.e. intake for Honda's, but the parts available are most certainly worth the money.

my $.02
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