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Old 06-15-2008, 09:28 PM   #51
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I accept that shipment of fail.

My bad, I misread your response to be sarcastic, then you posted a picture I mistook as a rendering. I even went to SWRT and even those look a little too refined.

and thanks for posting the above picture for some obvious clarification for me.

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Old 06-15-2008, 10:28 PM   #52
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I saw this car on it's way back to Vermont Sports Car. Last Sunday the truck was refueling just east of lake george NY and knowing what must be inside I pulled right in. He opened the back up to show it to me. I was asked not to go posting it up but I knew it would be here eventually. Pretty nice guys from V.S.C.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:43 PM   #53
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I drove past his car fresh off the roll since we transitted that stage after his incident. It looked pretty mean in person. We rolled our car in the 7th stage along with several others, there was a lot of attrition this past weekend at STPR, but I cant wait until next year!
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:09 AM   #54
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I never liked the new look of the 2008 STI rally car to begin with, Im kinda glad it failed. Its time to bring back the old design.
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:13 AM   #55
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Default '08 sti woes...

We were the first team (primitive racing car #233 Eklund/Price)to run the new '08 STI hatch @ Olympus and OTR.

AT OTR I found the lower trailing arm bolts literally falling out!!! I locited and rechecked them constantly...

However...that is part of rally racing you always find something broken, or stuff falling off the car...we always nut/bolt chk. during services...we usually find something...
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:36 PM   #56
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Keep up the good work man! None of us will ever have a chance of destroying a brand new Rally Car like that? But, I have money to begin with so it's OK. Think about a simple man and trying to upgrade his vehicle, being married with children. Just get a little fired up to see somebody handed a Rally Car because of his status and then total it. Its OK. If you are a Celebrity you can do what **** you want too when you want too.

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Old 06-16-2008, 11:02 PM   #57
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well this showing of epic fail, is detouring, I'm still making my way up to LSPR (Michigan's Upper for those that don't know) its not the most brutal place, but if snow gets added in these cars will really be getting tested in the suspension and traction categories. so lets look to the end of the season, to see where everything plays out at. only then will we know is the new car is bust or ready to win again.
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Old 06-17-2008, 12:20 AM   #58
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From 2000-2004 F1 Ferrari won 5 World Championships not by revolution but by evolution. I think the new Impreza platform is too revolutionary. They will most likley spend the season trying to sort out this mostly new piece of kit and end up retro fitting parts to help the cause. hope things are better next year.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:25 PM   #59
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That is not entirely accurate.

The RR cars are doing really well but during the Rocky Mountain Rally Pat's new car blew out the rear brakes completely. Apparently they started on fire and had had to be removed caliper and all. This was on the first day in the first couple of stages. Pat ended up running with no rear brakes for the rest of the day and I believe the second day as well.

He still ended up placing really well even with no rear brakes
Thats not accurate either. His brakes caught fire on the transit to first stage (We stopped and loaned the tools for him to remove calipers before first stage).

http://www.flatovercrest.com/2008/05...hits.html#more
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Old 06-17-2008, 10:54 PM   #60
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Ideally, for gravel, the cars should have struts. There isn't any way to get the travel necessary out of a multilink setup. There currently isn't (or never has been besides the Evo WRC Step II) one WRCar using anything but mcpherson struts all around.
On the other hand, plenty of cars in CZ, PL and Italy are using the 08 in Group N with great success against maximum group N spec Evo IXs. Evos also have limited rear travel as well but the arms have been revised over the last 10+ years for minimal gains.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:14 PM   #61
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The recap video of STPR for SRT-USA has been posted.

http://www.rally.subaru.com/videos.html

Maybe it will clear up some of the lingering questions.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:58 AM   #62
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The recap video of STPR for SRT-USA has been posted.

http://www.rally.subaru.com/videos.html

Maybe it will clear up some of the lingering questions.
WOW.
Thanks Dan.

Good video.
Pretty much clears up what happened.

The rear suspension was too weak and looks like it was badly bent on Pastrana's car and much have broken off on Blocks car.

Man that roll that Pastrana did was intense.
Took a turn too wide and hit the outside that dragged him back in.
Man that roll cage held up very well.

A shame that they both got DNFs but like they said was still good for testing.
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:09 PM   #63
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Keep up the good work man! None of us will ever have a chance of destroying a brand new Rally Car like that? But, I have money to begin with so it's OK. Think about a simple man and trying to upgrade his vehicle, being married with children. Just get a little fired up to see somebody handed a Rally Car because of his status and then total it. Its OK. If you are a Celebrity you can do what **** you want too when you want too.
Y'know, this slam on Travis Pastrana is really unfair.

The man is a professional rally driver - he's paid to take the car he's given and drive it at 10/10ths - as hard as he can - and to win rallies in it. That's a skill that he has demonstrated time and again.

And Pastrana doesn't crash any more than other rally drivers. He's fast, consistent, serious, and very very good at what he does. I'm just a reporter and regional-level co-driver, but you can ask his competitors if you don't believe me.

So, "handed a rally car because of his status" - yeah, absolutely. It's not like he's a TV actor or a singer - he's a two-time national champion driver being trained for world rally competition. That's his status.

Do I wish I had Pastrana's job? Absolutely. Although, as a co-driver, I'd rather ride with Pastrana than try to drive it myself.

I've interviewed Pastrana on several occasions and have always found him to be warm, friendly, and down to earth. I've seen the man DNF his car and within an hour, he's out signing autographs with a smile - taking time to take care of the people who come to see the rally. That's a professional doing his job.

Point is, Travis Pastrana is successful in his job because he works hard at every aspect of it.

Rally on,

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Old 06-20-2008, 12:28 AM   #64
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I'm sure the bugs will be sorted out soon enough. The new Sti is a good machine, but it is not a well built machine. I like the new style and no I don't have any issues, and I do like change. In my opinion the engineers need to slow down and think before they slap parts together just to get their product out there in the mix.

Go Subi
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Old 06-20-2008, 01:41 AM   #65
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The #199 car SOA is moving from dealership to dealership in SoCal is different than the mock they used last year. The new version is the real deal. Full roll cage, sparco seats, gutted interior. Plus it's nice & dirty

The engine bay appears stock. It's running Cusco struts on the front & the double wish on the rear....
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:21 PM   #66
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Because 95% of every rally occurs outside of eye, camera and video sight.
And 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot...

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Old 06-20-2008, 05:43 PM   #67
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And 99% of all statistics are made up on the spot...

~ Chris
That would only be correct 75% of the time.
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Old 06-20-2008, 06:37 PM   #68
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In the Subaru.com/rally site I'm stand behind Ken BLock at the very end when he is getting interviewed wahooooooooooooo

Again thanks for the shirts to the guys who shot that video!
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Old 06-21-2008, 09:36 AM   #69
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I accept that shipment of fail.

My bad, I misread your response to be sarcastic, then you posted a picture I mistook as a rendering. I even went to SWRT and even those look a little too refined.

and thanks for posting the above picture for some obvious clarification for me.

Steve
I think I just crapped myself. Did a 'specialist' just take the high roa....wait.....rereading.....yep, he did.

You, sir, get a
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Old 06-24-2008, 07:12 AM   #70
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I think advancement is a pretty critical part of WRC development, both for the racing and for the street cars. I'm glad subaru is trying to improve on their old designs, I don't want them to be like chevy who tries to use the same design for 40 years. Even if some parts didn't quite do the trick, hey, there's always next model year!
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:29 AM   #71
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I took this video while following Pastrana back to service on Friday. When they say suspension failure, they are not kidding:

Pastrana's Suspension Drama


oh wowowowow
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Old 06-25-2008, 06:46 PM   #72
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my internet explorer, ironically crashed after attempting to post this:

that hatchback design has been the heart of ridicule, rally and race catastrophe, discomfort, noise, crazy handlng, pretending to be fast, because its like looking over a short hood at 60mph...

and subaru reincarnates it...

of all the lack of documentation of thier good vehicles, self extinctive bizarre of said good designs...all thier little secrets...all thier true evolution...why why why is that car design back on earth...
I know japanaese is out of touch with large communication..but this leap and bound into futuristic is simply retarded and backwards. For a regular persons sake, I am glad it is pros getting to test it to max, and possibly hurt themselves. (it is thier jobs, really)
crazier than 5 main bearings, and an egr valve ...
Holy cow, what a moron!! No, maybe he's right... inverting the hatch into a trunk will fix EVERYTHING because it has SOOOOO much to do with suspension failures.

At this point I'm beginning to believe they're paying Pastrana to crash test cars. I keed I keed!

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I never liked the new look of the 2008 STI rally car to begin with, Im kinda glad it failed. Its time to bring back the old design.


I'm sure bringing back the old (just as ugly) design will alleviate all the suspension issues..... that'll definitely happen... idiots!

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:44 PM   #73
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I never liked the new look of the 2008 STI rally car to begin with, Im kinda glad it failed. Its time to bring back the old design.
The 07 rally car had so many problems...
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Old 06-27-2008, 03:49 PM   #74
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Greetings from Subaru Rally Team USA
This will be the new Username of the team for NASIOC. If there are any questions regarding the team, please feel free to PM.

There will be a post shortly containing official spectator locations and directions for the NEFR at the top of the NESIC page.

The official guide will be posted to www.newenglandforestrally.com in PDF form by the weekend.This guide will also be in circulation at the event.

Thanks for everyone's support, and we hope to see you at the New England Forest Rally.
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Old 06-28-2008, 06:26 PM   #75
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I like the new design, I have been hoping for a hatch STi for a while now (not that I can afford one). Everyone complained about the 06's as well, and now everyone likes them. I think people should just be happy we have a STi in the states,, and start to accept change.
I support Subaru all the way, do I think they should do a few things differant, absolutely, but I am not an engineer, and I do not rally professionally, so maybe it is hard to understand those decisions.

I think it is sad those 08's were ccrashed, but like they said, there has to be some testing. I am sure SWRT will get the bugs worked out, and we will be dominating again soon.

Travis and Ken are good drivers, if you think you can do better, than start going to SCCA rally events and get a sponcer. Prove it.

BTW which channel does the rallies come on? I have not seen rally in years.
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