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Old 06-13-2008, 02:54 PM   #1
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Default The US made 245MPG car you never heard of before - ZENN

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When doing my daily commuter grinding along the sunny streets of California I noticed a car unfamiliar to my auto enthusiast eyes. No it was not a Mini or some typical Japanese econo box. Being curious I took a closer and noticed no tail pipe, had a large "Electric" decals on the sides, did not look that bad (but def not pretty), and got the same attention as someone driving a F430. So what was it? I read on the badge...ZENN. So first thing I did was Google it and sharing to you.

ZENN credo:
Since we first began to walk, we have loved the feeling of movement.
To get around and see the world.
To be free.
Cars have given us mobility.
But with the heavy costs of pollution and oil dependency.
ZENN is about returning to the purity of that original feeling.
ZENN may look like a car, but it refuses to act like one.
You’ll experience the simple joy of moving freely.
With silent, exhilarating acceleration
ZENN will quietly change the way you think about getting from A to B.
The air is clean and your conscience is clear.
ZENN is a car that, while it runs on electricity, is fueled by optimism,
The belief that individuals can make a difference,
That we can do better.
ZENN is enlightened mobility

ZENN Overview:
As a leading developer, manufacturer and supplier of electric vehicles, our goal is to provide drivers with a quality urban transportation solution that positively impacts our environment and greatly reduces operating cost. Working with our internationally respected partners, we bring the world’s finest zero-emission vehicles to you - setting the standard for what electric vehicles can be. The culmination of this passion for quality is the ZENN™, the luxury Neighborhood Electric Vehicle.

Specs:
Mechanical & Performance
Front wheel drive
Helical gear transmission for quiet operation
100% electrically driven, 72 VDC (5.69kw)
Electronic drive-by-wire throttle
Advanced Motors & Drives, 3 Phase AC drive motor (Length: 10.5", Diameter: 7.5")
Curtis Motor Controller
Transmission 10.3 - 1 Speed reducer with integral differential
Speed control - 300A
Zero emission vehicle
Constant velocity driveshaft with CV joints
Batteries: EV31A-A Discover battery pack - 6 x 12V x AGM maintenance free, valve sealed lead-acid batteries
Charging: Aprox. 8 hours (110 Volt Standard Electrical Outlet), 80% rechargeable in 4 hours (from empty)
Independent front wheel suspension with two coilspring/shock units
Rear suspension trailing arm with two coil spring/shock units
Rack and pinion steering
13" spoke aluminum magwheels
145/70R13 tires
Safety
Adjustable Headrests (2 seats)
3 Point Seatbelts
Dual hydraulic system, 4-wheel disc, 6.7 in.
Electromagnetic regenerative braking
Black aluminum alloy Space Frame
Meets FMVSS500 standards
Exterior
Rear window wiper
Front windshield wipers
Central antenna
Black roof and body pillars
ABS body panels
Chrome grill insert
Headlights
Dual exterior mirrors
Protective color-keyed body moldings
Comfort & Convenience
Adjustable bucket seats
Two-tone cloth seats
Power windows
Rear window defrost
Interior heating
Directional shifter
Electronic dashboard
Trip odometer
Digital Clock
Remote keyless entry and locks
Carpeting
12V accessory plug
Central interior light with auto on/off with door opening
Sun visors
Integrated locking glove box
Inside rear trunk pockets
Storage capacity: approximately 13 cu. ft.

For now A/C is added for free. Stereo and Sun roof extra! Fully loaded for $21K!!!
http://www.zenncars.com/

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Old 06-13-2008, 03:02 PM   #2
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written up in the winding road recently.



http://magazine.windingroad.com/wind...6web/?folio=69

specs at a glance: $16k USD. weighs 1360 lbs. 3-phase brushless AC motor, 7.6 hp. 7 kWh of AGM SLA batteries. 30-50 mile range. as a neighborhood electric vehicle is limited to 25 mph, but Washington state is opening this up to a blistering 35 mph
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:02 PM   #3
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Range: 30-50 miles
Top Speed: 25 mph
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:08 PM   #4
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Range: 30-50 miles
Top Speed: 25 mph
I guess it's basically an upgraded golf cart. You get a full body, taller gearing and better range. Not much of a commuter car, but it's a start.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:15 PM   #5
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Regulated 25mph top speed.

I'd take the back roads to work if it had a top speed of 65mph and could go 70 miles on a charge.
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Old 06-13-2008, 03:41 PM   #6
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Regulated 25mph top speed.
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Myth 5: Electric vehicles aren’t fast enough.

Designed to meet neighborhood and urban transportation needs, the regulated maximum speed of a ZENN is 25 mph. As such its intended use is busy urban areas, lower speed roads and places like gated communities and campuses where speed is neither necessary, desirable or safe.
See man speed isn't even desirable.

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I'd take the back roads to work if it had a top speed of 65mph and could go 70 miles on a charge.
Me too. I would rock a 65mph car with a 70 mile range. 25mph is sooo slow.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:38 PM   #7
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I think a 60 MPH/50 range car would work for a lot of people as long as the recharge time was reasonable.
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Old 06-13-2008, 04:44 PM   #8
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yep , 60mph and 50 miles would be great for me,just to get out of the house for an hour a day,go in town shop and what not,
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Old 06-13-2008, 05:00 PM   #9
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You can't drive that anywhere in LA!
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Old 06-13-2008, 06:05 PM   #10
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tesla wins.
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:47 PM   #11
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Seen one at a Chrysler dealer off exit 117 parkway. Is that the same company that does those other street legal goflcarts?
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Old 06-13-2008, 08:56 PM   #12
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The dealer I work for has one, noone wants the thing, it doenst even pass va inspection. Junk from what I hear.
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Old 06-14-2008, 12:20 AM   #13
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If these were allowed on roads with speed limits above 25 mph, I would fight it.

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Old 06-14-2008, 10:09 AM   #14
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See if a teeny, tiny company such as this can produce a real, true to life, low production volume "car" for about $21k, there are few good reasons why a large car company can't produce a better car with more reasonable performance and range for about the same money.

Hell, they could even use older designs and older tooling to keep costs down... like, say using the old 1990's Accord or Civic platform and sheetmetal. That tooling and design and engineering was paid for years and years ago... bring it back and put the majority of your budget on the electric powertrain.
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:29 AM   #15
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See if a teeny, tiny company such as this can produce a real, true to life, low production volume "car" for about $21k, there are few good reasons why a large car company can't produce a better car with more reasonable performance and range for about the same money.

Hell, they could even use older designs and older tooling to keep costs down... like, say using the old 1990's Accord or Civic platform and sheetmetal. That tooling and design and engineering was paid for years and years ago... bring it back and put the majority of your budget on the electric powertrain.
You don't get it. It's just a glorified golf cart. It's cheap because it does not have the safety equipment required on normal cars or a battery pack that makes it useful for a commuter. The lack of safety equipment is why it's limited to 25 mph. Anyone could produce this car for under $20k, but why?
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:15 AM   #16
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i'd rather ride a bike.
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:36 PM   #17
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i'd rather ride a bike.
And if you're in shape you can do better than 25mph on flat ground on a good road bike.

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Old 06-14-2008, 10:42 PM   #18
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So does the 25 mph limit mean it can't go over 25 mph or it can't go on roads posted more than 25 mph? Most main city streets are posted at least 30, so if its the latter its pretty useless.

edit: never mind; I found the answer. The car itself is limited to 25. Is that because of safety issues? If so, what happens if someone runs a red light doing 45 and T-bones you?

PS Where did the 245 mpg come from?

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Old 09-28-2009, 12:49 PM   #19
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Toronto, Ontario – Toronto-based ZENN Motor Company has announced that it will focus on broad distribution of its electric drivetrains, and will not develop the cityZENN highway-capable vehicle as a stand-alone vehicle as previously announced.
The ZENNergy electric drivetrain is powered by EEStor and integrates third-party and proprietary technologies being developed by ZENN.
“Integration of the ZENNergy drive in OEM vehicles has always been our long-term objective,” said CEO Ian Clifford. “The advancement of the development of EEStor’s technology, combined with the industry’s increased focus on electric vehicle solutions in the past two years, helped us accelerate this decision to focus exclusively on the ZENNergy drive. Given the timelines involved, introducing the cityZENN directly into the marketplace would have ultimately competed with our prospective OEM and Tier 1 supplier engagements and create unnecessary near-term confusion at the consumer level. At the end of the day, we want to partner with all OEMs so that consumers can drive a variety of electric vehicles across numerous automotive brands with one common denominator: they are all powered by ZENNergy.”
Clifford said that the significant amount of work done on the cityZENN to date applies directly to ZENNergy drive. “Leveraging this work will greatly assist our discussions with prospective partners across the automotive industry and will allow our product marketing and engineering teams to focus wholly on bringing ZENNergy drive solutions to market,” he said.
The company currently sells the ZENN low-speed vehicle directly in Quebec, and through a network of retailers across the U.S
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:18 PM   #20
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I saw one in guess where.....


Berkeley, looks like you have to sit in the back seat tho.

I used to work by the dealership in Berkeley, it was a VW dealer beforehand.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:29 PM   #21
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25MPH! That's nuts. You'll die.
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:33 PM   #22
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But it's 245mpg with a range of 30-50 miles!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:35 PM   #23
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ugly. Nuff said.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:57 PM   #24
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tesla wins.
Everyone wins who makes real PHEVs or EV actually

The PHEV prius will go 65 on electric, the volt will go faster on electric, the fisker karma will go faster in electric, and the Tesla roadster will go faster yet.
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When did St. Jerome Quebec become part of the US?
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