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Old 06-18-2008, 03:05 PM   #1
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I am starting to spend a bit more time at the track. (not drag strip) I have been just using the stock reo70 since everyone gets rid of them for cheap. I really don't think for the money you can get a better set of used tires for DD and track use. Now I am looking for an upgrade from the 225 region. My debate is with a 255 40r 17 so I can keep the same ride height. Or move to a 245 40 or 45 series. I gain about 9 revolutions per mile with the 40 series and loose 13 revolutions with the 45 series.

They will be mounted on 17x8 rpf-1's Any suggestions? I have a set of wheels and tires for the winter so these only need to be summer and track only. I am even thinking of another set of rims for track only. In that case give me some suggestions of track only tires as well.


Suggestion list with experience only, please don't give me advice you hvae read somewhere becuase I have done quite a bit of reading. I am looking for first hand experience.

Summer DD with track use:


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Old 06-19-2008, 08:07 AM   #2
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I had OEM Potenza RE040 on my RX8 and they did fine at a 2 day track day. But I won't buy them again because there are much better tires for the money.

I haven't had experience directly with these options, but I have a few friends running these tires at track days with DD use now:
Azenis RT615
Potenza RE050A Pole Position
and my favorite....Potenza RE01R

But with these softer tires, you are gonna go through them quickly at the track. That was the one nice thing about the RE040 for track and DD, although I was not impressed with these at the autox.

Don't have any experience with Dunlop, but have heard good things as well.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:47 AM   #3
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The new dunlop z1 star specs seem to be the tire to buy right now. Some great reviews have been coming about over the past few months. Another you may look at for lots of tracking would be the kumho mx, as it supposedly loves heat. From what I understand, this is a great track tire. Unfortunately it's not good at much else, however.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:51 AM   #4
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Stay away from 615's for the track, they get greasy when hot, and you wind up having to back down after a handful of hard laps.

As its been said, MX's like the heat, and are cheap, but aren't great at anything else. I'm sure the new Dunlops, 01's, Yoko's, etc. would also do very well at the track.

For a track tire only, did up some used RA-1's, NT01's, or A048's (or the A032R's on ebay for dirt cheap). They'll be your best, longer lasting, bet for track day specials.
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Old 06-19-2008, 11:17 AM   #5
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Thanks guys

I will do more research on these suggestions

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Old 06-19-2008, 01:51 PM   #6
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you really sound like you need 2 sets of wheels
one with track rubber and one with dd rubber
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:15 PM   #7
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The new dunlop z1 star specs .
I LOVE my Star-specs.. they come to temperature quickly.. I've doen several autoX events on mine.. and at a long course event, on a HOT day (106 degree surface temps in grid) they got a bit weird.. if I wasn't completely smooth.
On track.. i dunno, I'm not going to recommend them for track duty.. until i've tried them..

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Stay away from 615's for the track, they get greasy when hot, and you wind up having to back down after a handful of hard laps..
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As its been said, MX's like the heat, and are cheap, but aren't great at anything else. I'm sure the new Dunlops, 01's, Yoko's, etc. would also do very well at the track..
MX's do well on track.. not so much for anything else.

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For a track tire only, did up some used RA-1's, NT01's, or A048's (or the A032R's on ebay for dirt cheap). They'll be your best, longer lasting, bet for track day specials.
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RA-1's FTW!!!! wear like iron!!
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you really sound like you need 2 sets of wheels
one with track rubber and one with dd rubber
+1
I use a set of ASA wheels with cheap conti all seasons to drive to events... then swap to the dunlops for the event.
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you really sound like you need 2 sets of wheels
one with track rubber and one with dd rubber
Ya I started looking for a set of other rims yesterday. I think that is my best bet. That way I can continue to buy the used cheap re070 off the forums and have a set of good race tires for the track.

Are my 17x8 to narrow for a set of 255 for the track? Not the questions is what rims will be track rims and what rims are DD rims
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:31 PM   #9
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+2 for the D1's not being a good track tire. They heat up quick, but I noticed when doing an AutoX on a big go-kart track that if I were to get some consectutive runs going, they got a little greasy.
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Ya I started looking for a set of other rims yesterday. I think that is my best bet. That way I can continue to buy the used cheap re070 off the forums and have a set of good race tires for the track.

Are my 17x8 to narrow for a set of 255 for the track? Not the questions is what rims will be track rims and what rims are DD rims
255's on 8" is fine. Recommended is 8.5", but many many people run them, even on the street (STi guys run 255's on stock wheels). My track setup is 255's on 8" as well.
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yeah, i had 255 kumho mx's on 17x8 teflon motegi lc5'sthe back of my fiero, and they fit fine. have you looked into the kumho mx? theyre not all that expensive, but i was able to break them loose from a very low roll if i punched it, but that was with roughly 350tq available at a very low rpm, so idk. never took any serious corners with it either. i mean, it was a fiero afterall. :P
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Old 06-19-2008, 05:05 PM   #12
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cool. I think for the ebay price for a set of yokohama A032R's looks the best right now. I am also thinking of the kumho MX as my other choice. I will just look around and see what kind of used wheels I can find. If I find a set of 8.5 or 9's then I make them my track wheels. If I find a good deal on 8's then I will use either ones I like the best for my DD wheels.

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i liked the mx for dd use

they seemed to like a bit more pressure than some other tires ive used

they had no real bad quirks and wore evenly
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Tons of grip when I put on the MX.

But, noisy on the highway.

No snow driving. The reaper nearly came knocking when I tried that .

Good cheap performance tire if a bit behind the curve since the design is more than seven years old.
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