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Old 02-09-2009, 04:23 PM   #101
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ah..
I like the Wolfgang 3.0 stuff (essentially Menzerna SIP and 106ff but more workable.)
but I'm still a sealant guy for long term protection.

Brew, I think you'll find that propper prep is going to give you the best results and you seem to have it down. I wouldn't expect to see life changing differences going to Fuzion or Dodo, although if you want to try Fuzion, now is obviously the time to pick some up.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:28 PM   #102
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yea here is what i did to the Banana, after a clay bath and all other prep work.
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #1 Medium Cut Cleaner
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #3 Pro Machine Glaze
Menzerna Intensive Polish PO 91E
Menzerna Micro Polish PO 87MC
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0


i am not expecting any night and day differances going to the Fuzion, but i would lik eot have a Carnauba based wax on my shelf. as well as having a very wide veriety of stuff, this is something i dont have, they are running the special and i think it woul dbe nice to have, and at 68% off, hard to say no.

the Dodo Stuff just looks cool, and has an awesome name. Purple haze.... who wouldnt want that wax, lol. but for me, i would like to get the Light Fantastic.
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Old 02-09-2009, 04:38 PM   #103
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What do you think of the Wolfgang Sealant?
I'm a Duragloss, Optimum guy but I really do like Wolfgang TSR and FG and might try the sealant if its priced right.

p.s. the banana looks great.

Have you tried any FK1 stuff yet?
FK1 1000P topped with FK1 2685 is a killer combo.

If there's one FK1 product you must have tho its FK1 425. It's a "QD" though it's cleaning qualities are rather limited, it really does boost whatever you have on the paint and makes it ultra slick. Plus its anti static. I generally use it after/during drying and to remove stubborn LSPs
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:19 PM   #104
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why wait till summer.

that is why i added 16 4 foot lights to my garage, lol..


im not trying to make it my thread, i just do a lot of details. i will be getting some super schweet wax pretty soon, so i will be able to get some really crazy stuff to happen to peoples paint.
i hate detailing my car in winter because by the next day its covered in dust and looks dirty again :/
but i bet you could get the 09 Porsche C2S Cabriolet looking pretty good
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:28 PM   #105
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Your guys' detail knowledge hurts my head .... I'm interested in seeing what does your "prep" consist of (pics would be appreciated).
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:56 PM   #106
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prep is basically getting a comtaminet free paint, as well as getting rid of oxidization, swirls, scratches, and so forth.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:38 PM   #107
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What do you use to remove an existing sealant/wax layer brew? Prepsol, or just the classic ton of Dawn in the wash soap?
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:42 PM   #108
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i use claybar. it will remove all the wax.

but i also use an agressive clay. because if i am claying, i will be prepping the paint for sealant wax anyways...

also, i dont use quick detailer unless i am spot checking, witch is rare. i give the car a clay bar bath.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:47 PM   #109
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Hmmm. I spot-clayed my car when it had a few layers of carnuba before polishing. Could still feel the wax on it, had to use the Dawn method. I'm guessing the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive. (I don't have any real point of comparison.)
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:06 PM   #110
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polishing is going to strip the wax anyway...
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Old 02-09-2009, 11:16 PM   #111
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Eh, I know. I just figured I'd get the paint as clean as possible so I have less to cut through. God knows I take a millennium to polish a car as it is.
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Old 02-10-2009, 01:52 AM   #112
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lol, there was well over 8 hours on the yellow car. and there were about 12 on the white car.


Some people are okey with the mentality of, "i wash my car once a year, if it needes it or not."
I wash mine about once a month in summer, less in winter. Summertime it gets a wash in the yard, winter it goes through a car wash. Yeah, I said it. A car wash.

Maybe I'd be more motivated to wash the cars if I didn't have 4 cars and a motorcycle to wash.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:55 AM   #113
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I'll bite. Washed and spray waxed once a week. Deep clean and clay bar once every 6 months.

Before:


After clay bar and wax:






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Old 02-10-2009, 03:45 PM   #114
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Vecdran and I should have a sit in with you Brewpub to see how you work your magic if your up in WA. We (mostly I) cumatively have the entire Griots setup but I would like to see how you use those tools and/or the tools you use.
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Old 02-10-2009, 03:51 PM   #115
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Hmmm. I spot-clayed my car when it had a few layers of carnuba before polishing. Could still feel the wax on it, had to use the Dawn method. I'm guessing the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive. (I don't have any real point of comparison.)
the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive at all, it's actually one of the more mild on the market, and they market it as such. Not necessarily good or bad, just soft.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:36 PM   #116
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none of the griots stuff IMO is all that impressive.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:45 PM   #117
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Such as been my conclusion after a year. Some of it is good, clever and works well. I see it as a good way to get into detailing. But not the end all be all. They have a wide range of products and can serve the need if it arrives, gotta give em credit for that at least.
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:11 PM   #118
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Vecdran and I should have a sit in with you Brewpub to see how you work your magic if your up in WA. We (mostly I) cumatively have the entire Griots setup but I would like to see how you use those tools and/or the tools you use.
i am always willing to show people what i do. it really isnt anything special. i just have a lot of the right tools and products.



i am now able to do stuff all hours, so if you want to drive down sometime. your more than welcome
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Old 02-10-2009, 11:14 PM   #119
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Such as been my conclusion after a year. Some of it is good, clever and works well. I see it as a good way to get into detailing. But not the end all be all. They have a wide range of products and can serve the need if it arrives, gotta give em credit for that at least.
It's a lot like Meguiars generic line. It's made for the lowest common denominator type of person.
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http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-fuz...r-car-wax.html










This was not a full detail. just a simple once over. Still took 6 hours, lol. We really wanted to see how well the new wax and Menzerna products i got were going to work. They did very well.
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Old 02-17-2009, 08:41 AM   #121
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the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive at all, it's actually one of the more mild on the market, and they market it as such. Not necessarily good or bad, just soft.
Yeah, figures I suppose. Does the job I need it to do, and it's a nice big hunk of clay which lasts me a long time.

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none of the griots stuff IMO is all that impressive.
I think anyone would be lying if they didn't admit this. As turbolad said, they're a good gateway company. I've already moved on from many of their products. Their Speed Shine and car wash though, those are with me for good. I've tried a couple other brands, and I still like theirs the best.

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i am always willing to show people what i do. it really isnt anything special. i just have a lot of the right tools and products.

i am now able to do stuff all hours, so if you want to drive down sometime. your more than welcome
Heh, turbolad is right. I'd love to help you out on a job sometime, just to see your workflow. I take too damn long. Especially on polishing.

That Wolfgang wax looks amazing! Maybe I'll stop being a cheapass and invest in some of that...instead of going the cookie cutter zaino or lusso route.
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ROAD TRIP!!! Whens a good time Vecdran with School and all, you know I aint doing crap.
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:17 AM   #123
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I need to get mine detailed, so um yea how much exactly for like a pretty good detail, just paint. Ive got some swirl marks and it looks a bit like foggy now, or what should i do to make it shine more once again?
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Old 02-18-2009, 01:24 AM   #124
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This was not a full detail. just a simple once over. Still took 6 hours, lol. We really wanted to see how well the new wax and Menzerna products i got were going to work. They did very well.
Someone should buy my prodrives so I can come down and have you help me detail my car
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Old 02-18-2009, 05:23 AM   #125
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Here's some of my old pictures. Looks like BREWPUBEAVER's and doesn't really show much since it's black and outside so it's kind of cheating I think.

This was with using Griots Garage stuff (http://www.griotsgarage.com/home.do)
Clay bar
Machine Polish 3
Machine Polish 2
Machine Polish 3
Best of Show Wax (3, {maybe 4} coats

Done over a weeks time I think

All this got me a perfect score for the Paint category at Hot Import Nights

This is a close up picture of the door.
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