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EnterTheDragon · 02-09-2009, 04:23 PM

ah..
I like the Wolfgang 3.0 stuff (essentially Menzerna SIP and 106ff but more workable.)
but I'm still a sealant guy for long term protection.

Brew, I think you'll find that propper prep is going to give you the best results and you seem to have it down. I wouldn't expect to see life changing differences going to Fuzion or Dodo, although if you want to try Fuzion, now is obviously the time to pick some up.

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BREWPUBEAVER · 02-09-2009, 04:28 PM

yea here is what i did to the Banana, after a clay bath and all other prep work.
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #1 Medium Cut Cleaner
Meguiars Mirror Glaze #3 Pro Machine Glaze
Menzerna Intensive Polish PO 91E
Menzerna Micro Polish PO 87MC
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0

i am not expecting any night and day differances going to the Fuzion, but i would lik eot have a Carnauba based wax on my shelf. as well as having a very wide veriety of stuff, this is something i dont have, they are running the special and i think it woul dbe nice to have, and at 68% off, hard to say no.

the Dodo Stuff just looks cool, and has an awesome name. Purple haze.... who wouldnt want that wax, lol. but for me, i would like to get the Light Fantastic.

EnterTheDragon · 02-09-2009, 04:38 PM

What do you think of the Wolfgang Sealant?
I'm a Duragloss, Optimum guy but I really do like Wolfgang TSR and FG and might try the sealant if its priced right.

p.s. the banana looks great.

Have you tried any FK1 stuff yet?
FK1 1000P topped with FK1 2685 is a killer combo.

If there's one FK1 product you must have tho its FK1 425. It's a "QD" though it's cleaning qualities are rather limited, it really does boost whatever you have on the paint and makes it ultra slick. Plus its anti static. I generally use it after/during drying and to remove stubborn LSPs

JamesBernard · 02-09-2009, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BREWPUBEAVER

why wait till summer.

that is why i added 16 4 foot lights to my garage, lol..

im not trying to make it my thread, i just do a lot of details. i will be getting some super schweet wax pretty soon, so i will be able to get some really crazy stuff to happen to peoples paint.

i hate detailing my car in winter because by the next day its covered in dust and looks dirty again :/
but i bet you could get the 09 Porsche C2S Cabriolet looking pretty good

Gray_Scale · 02-09-2009, 06:28 PM

Your guys' detail knowledge hurts my head

.... I'm interested in seeing what does your "prep" consist of (pics would be appreciated).

BREWPUBEAVER · 02-09-2009, 08:56 PM

prep is basically getting a comtaminet free paint, as well as getting rid of oxidization, swirls, scratches, and so forth.

vecdran · 02-09-2009, 09:38 PM

What do you use to remove an existing sealant/wax layer brew? Prepsol, or just the classic ton of Dawn in the wash soap?

BREWPUBEAVER · 02-09-2009, 09:42 PM

i use claybar. it will remove all the wax.

but i also use an agressive clay. because if i am claying, i will be prepping the paint for sealant wax anyways...

also, i dont use quick detailer unless i am spot checking, witch is rare. i give the car a clay bar bath.

vecdran · 02-09-2009, 09:47 PM

Hmmm. I spot-clayed my car when it had a few layers of carnuba before polishing. Could still feel the wax on it, had to use the Dawn method. I'm guessing the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive. (I don't have any real point of comparison.)

EnterTheDragon · 02-09-2009, 11:06 PM

polishing is going to strip the wax anyway...

vecdran · 02-09-2009, 11:16 PM

Eh, I know. I just figured I'd get the paint as clean as possible so I have less to cut through. God knows I take a millennium to polish a car as it is.

CosmoTheCat · 02-10-2009, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BREWPUBEAVER

lol, there was well over 8 hours on the yellow car. and there were about 12 on the white car.

Some people are okey with the mentality of, "i wash my car once a year, if it needes it or not."

I wash mine about once a month in summer, less in winter. Summertime it gets a wash in the yard, winter it goes through a car wash. Yeah, I said it. A car wash.

Maybe I'd be more motivated to wash the cars if I didn't have 4 cars and a motorcycle to wash.

Gray Ghost · 02-10-2009, 10:55 AM

I'll bite. Washed and spray waxed once a week. Deep clean and clay bar once every 6 months.

Before:

After clay bar and wax:

turbolad · 02-10-2009, 03:45 PM

Vecdran and I should have a sit in with you Brewpub to see how you work your magic if your up in WA. We (mostly I) cumatively have the entire Griots setup but I would like to see how you use those tools and/or the tools you use.

12sechatch · 02-10-2009, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vecdran

Hmmm. I spot-clayed my car when it had a few layers of carnuba before polishing. Could still feel the wax on it, had to use the Dawn method. I'm guessing the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive. (I don't have any real point of comparison.)

the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive at all, it's actually one of the more mild on the market, and they market it as such. Not necessarily good or bad, just soft.

EnterTheDragon · 02-10-2009, 10:36 PM

none of the griots stuff IMO is all that impressive.

turbolad · 02-10-2009, 10:45 PM

Such as been my conclusion after a year. Some of it is good, clever and works well. I see it as a good way to get into detailing. But not the end all be all. They have a wide range of products and can serve the need if it arrives, gotta give em credit for that at least.

BREWPUBEAVER · 02-10-2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolad

Vecdran and I should have a sit in with you Brewpub to see how you work your magic if your up in WA. We (mostly I) cumatively have the entire Griots setup but I would like to see how you use those tools and/or the tools you use.

i am always willing to show people what i do. it really isnt anything special. i just have a lot of the right tools and products.

i am now able to do stuff all hours, so if you want to drive down sometime. your more than welcome

EnterTheDragon · 02-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbolad

Such as been my conclusion after a year. Some of it is good, clever and works well. I see it as a good way to get into detailing. But not the end all be all. They have a wide range of products and can serve the need if it arrives, gotta give em credit for that at least.

It's a lot like Meguiars generic line. It's made for the lowest common denominator type of person.

BREWPUBEAVER · 02-17-2009, 03:28 AM

http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-fuz...r-car-wax.html

This was not a full detail. just a simple once over. Still took 6 hours, lol. We really wanted to see how well the new wax and Menzerna products i got were going to work. They did very well.

vecdran · 02-17-2009, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12sechatch

the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive at all, it's actually one of the more mild on the market, and they market it as such. Not necessarily good or bad, just soft.

Yeah, figures I suppose. Does the job I need it to do, and it's a nice big hunk of clay which lasts me a long time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnterTheDragon

none of the griots stuff IMO is all that impressive.

I think anyone would be lying if they didn't admit this. As turbolad said, they're a good gateway company. I've already moved on from many of their products. Their Speed Shine and car wash though, those are with me for good. I've tried a couple other brands, and I still like theirs the best.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BREWPUBEAVER

i am always willing to show people what i do. it really isnt anything special. i just have a lot of the right tools and products.

i am now able to do stuff all hours, so if you want to drive down sometime. your more than welcome

Heh, turbolad is right. I'd love to help you out on a job sometime, just to see your workflow. I take too damn long. Especially on polishing.

That Wolfgang wax looks amazing! Maybe I'll stop being a cheapass and invest in some of that...instead of going the cookie cutter zaino or lusso route.

turbolad · 02-17-2009, 10:58 AM

ROAD TRIP!!! Whens a good time Vecdran with School and all, you know I aint doing crap.

malinolatino · 02-18-2009, 01:17 AM

I need to get mine detailed, so um yea how much exactly for like a pretty good detail, just paint. Ive got some swirl marks and it looks a bit like foggy now, or what should i do to make it shine more once again?

TrickNipple · 02-18-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BREWPUBEAVER

This was not a full detail. just a simple once over. Still took 6 hours, lol. We really wanted to see how well the new wax and Menzerna products i got were going to work. They did very well.

Someone should buy my prodrives so I can come down and have you help me detail my car

Ethan · 02-18-2009, 05:23 AM

Here's some of my old pictures. Looks like BREWPUBEAVER's and doesn't really show much since it's black and outside so it's kind of cheating I think.

This was with using Griots Garage stuff (http://www.griotsgarage.com/home.do)
Clay bar
Machine Polish 3
Machine Polish 2
Machine Polish 3
Best of Show Wax (3, {maybe 4} coats

Done over a weeks time I think

All this got me a perfect score for the Paint category at Hot Import Nights

This is a close up picture of the door.

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02-09-2009, 04:23 PM	#101
EnterTheDragon Scooby Guru Member#: 6511 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: West of the Atlantic	ah.. I like the Wolfgang 3.0 stuff (essentially Menzerna SIP and 106ff but more workable.) but I'm still a sealant guy for long term protection. Brew, I think you'll find that propper prep is going to give you the best results and you seem to have it down. I wouldn't expect to see life changing differences going to Fuzion or Dodo, although if you want to try Fuzion, now is obviously the time to pick some up. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

02-09-2009, 04:28 PM	#102
BREWPUBEAVER Scooby Guru Member#: 84547 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: PDX S-SE Vehicle: 06, Lafawnduh Fender rolling king	yea here is what i did to the Banana, after a clay bath and all other prep work. Meguiars Mirror Glaze #1 Medium Cut Cleaner Meguiars Mirror Glaze #3 Pro Machine Glaze Menzerna Intensive Polish PO 91E Menzerna Micro Polish PO 87MC Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 Meguiars NXT Generation Tech Wax 2.0 i am not expecting any night and day differances going to the Fuzion, but i would lik eot have a Carnauba based wax on my shelf. as well as having a very wide veriety of stuff, this is something i dont have, they are running the special and i think it woul dbe nice to have, and at 68% off, hard to say no. the Dodo Stuff just looks cool, and has an awesome name. Purple haze.... who wouldnt want that wax, lol. but for me, i would like to get the Light Fantastic.

02-09-2009, 04:38 PM	#103
EnterTheDragon Scooby Guru Member#: 6511 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: West of the Atlantic	What do you think of the Wolfgang Sealant? I'm a Duragloss, Optimum guy but I really do like Wolfgang TSR and FG and might try the sealant if its priced right. p.s. the banana looks great. Have you tried any FK1 stuff yet? FK1 1000P topped with FK1 2685 is a killer combo. If there's one FK1 product you must have tho its FK1 425. It's a "QD" though it's cleaning qualities are rather limited, it really does boost whatever you have on the paint and makes it ultra slick. Plus its anti static. I generally use it after/during drying and to remove stubborn LSPs

02-09-2009, 06:28 PM	#105
Gray_Scale Scooby Specialist Member#: 100671 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: South King County Vehicle: 2004 WRX PSM	Your guys' detail knowledge hurts my head .... I'm interested in seeing what does your "prep" consist of (pics would be appreciated).

02-09-2009, 08:56 PM	#106
BREWPUBEAVER Scooby Guru Member#: 84547 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: PDX S-SE Vehicle: 06, Lafawnduh Fender rolling king	prep is basically getting a comtaminet free paint, as well as getting rid of oxidization, swirls, scratches, and so forth.

02-09-2009, 09:38 PM	#107
vecdran Scooby Specialist Member#: 162932 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellevue, WA	What do you use to remove an existing sealant/wax layer brew? Prepsol, or just the classic ton of Dawn in the wash soap?

02-09-2009, 09:42 PM	#108
BREWPUBEAVER Scooby Guru Member#: 84547 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: PDX S-SE Vehicle: 06, Lafawnduh Fender rolling king	i use claybar. it will remove all the wax. but i also use an agressive clay. because if i am claying, i will be prepping the paint for sealant wax anyways... also, i dont use quick detailer unless i am spot checking, witch is rare. i give the car a clay bar bath.

02-09-2009, 09:47 PM	#109
vecdran Scooby Specialist Member#: 162932 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellevue, WA	Hmmm. I spot-clayed my car when it had a few layers of carnuba before polishing. Could still feel the wax on it, had to use the Dawn method. I'm guessing the Griot's clay isn't very aggressive. (I don't have any real point of comparison.)

02-09-2009, 11:06 PM	#110
EnterTheDragon Scooby Guru Member#: 6511 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: West of the Atlantic	polishing is going to strip the wax anyway...

02-09-2009, 11:16 PM	#111
vecdran Scooby Specialist Member#: 162932 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellevue, WA	Eh, I know. I just figured I'd get the paint as clean as possible so I have less to cut through. God knows I take a millennium to polish a car as it is.

02-10-2009, 10:55 AM	#113
Gray Ghost Scooby Specialist Member#: 162790 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC	I'll bite. Washed and spray waxed once a week. Deep clean and clay bar once every 6 months. Before: After clay bar and wax:

02-10-2009, 03:45 PM	#114
turbolad Scooby Newbie Member#: 141427 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NE Tacoma Vehicle: 08 Jetta Wolfsburg From the Deutschland	Vecdran and I should have a sit in with you Brewpub to see how you work your magic if your up in WA. We (mostly I) cumatively have the entire Griots setup but I would like to see how you use those tools and/or the tools you use.

02-10-2009, 10:36 PM	#116
EnterTheDragon Scooby Guru Member#: 6511 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: West of the Atlantic	none of the griots stuff IMO is all that impressive.

02-10-2009, 10:45 PM	#117
turbolad Scooby Newbie Member#: 141427 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NE Tacoma Vehicle: 08 Jetta Wolfsburg From the Deutschland	Such as been my conclusion after a year. Some of it is good, clever and works well. I see it as a good way to get into detailing. But not the end all be all. They have a wide range of products and can serve the need if it arrives, gotta give em credit for that at least.

02-17-2009, 03:28 AM	#120
BREWPUBEAVER Scooby Guru Member#: 84547 Join Date: Apr 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: PDX S-SE Vehicle: 06, Lafawnduh Fender rolling king	http://www.autogeek.net/wolfgang-fuz...r-car-wax.html This was not a full detail. just a simple once over. Still took 6 hours, lol. We really wanted to see how well the new wax and Menzerna products i got were going to work. They did very well.

02-17-2009, 10:58 AM	#122
turbolad Scooby Newbie Member#: 141427 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: NE Tacoma Vehicle: 08 Jetta Wolfsburg From the Deutschland	ROAD TRIP!!! Whens a good time Vecdran with School and all, you know I aint doing crap.

02-18-2009, 01:17 AM	#123
malinolatino Scooby Newbie Member#: 179387 Join Date: May 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Tacoma, Wa Vehicle: 2004 STI JAVA BLACK PEARL	I need to get mine detailed, so um yea how much exactly for like a pretty good detail, just paint. Ive got some swirl marks and it looks a bit like foggy now, or what should i do to make it shine more once again?

02-18-2009, 05:23 AM	#125
Ethan NASIOC Supporter Member#: 246 Join Date: Sep 1999	Here's some of my old pictures. Looks like BREWPUBEAVER's and doesn't really show much since it's black and outside so it's kind of cheating I think. This was with using Griots Garage stuff (http://www.griotsgarage.com/home.do) Clay bar Machine Polish 3 Machine Polish 2 Machine Polish 3 Best of Show Wax (3, {maybe 4} coats Done over a weeks time I think All this got me a perfect score for the Paint category at Hot Import Nights This is a close up picture of the door.