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Old 06-28-2008, 12:49 AM   #1
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Hey Guys. I will be getting some nice new tires soon and I was kind of stuck on a couple. I tried searching and I narrowed it done to only a couple of tires. I will be going with a 17x9 wheel, so I will be running a 245/40/17 tire. I don't want an ugly tire since it will be visible on such a wide, low offset wheel. I wanted Falken RT615's, but they do not make them in that size. So what I have come up with, is the list below.

Nitto Invo $500 Shipped

Falken FK452 $490 Shipped

Dunlop Direzza DZ101 $ $500 Shipped

Yokohama S Drive $485 Shipped


Please let me know which one is the best. I will be not going to Auto-X or Track. I will be on many drives though. It is my DD so I want comfortable tires that will last me, and not be noisy or hydroplane under heavy rain. I don't care about snow or near freezing temps since I am in CA. So please let me know, and also be specific as to why you picked it. Thanks in Advance!
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:07 AM   #2
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Fuzion is the worst tire I ever had next to the RE92's.... count those out please
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:19 AM   #3
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might want to put the bridgestone RE760 on your list.
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Kuhmo SPT - cheap, good dry grip, loves the rain, quiet, comfortable, and pretty durable.

They're pretty much a steal for their price tag.

You might also want to look at Goodyear's Eagle F1 tires. Both their all-season and summer versions have ranked very high on Tire Rack's tests.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:28 AM   #5
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Thanks a lot for the comments guys. After the Bridgestone RE92's, I don't know if I would want to buy any other Bridgestones lol. I also saw the Kumho SPT, like I said, I am taking the look of the wheel into account because with my aggressive fitment, the tire will be visible. I saw some pictures of different tires on my new wheels, and all season tires make the wheels look very...bad. I want a clean, and simple design so when you see the wheels, you can tell the tires are nice too. Kinda hard to explain.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:22 AM   #6
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Fuzion is the worst tire I ever had next to the RE92's.... count those out please
+ 1 on the Fuzions. Put a set on my wifes Prelude. Horrible tire.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:39 AM   #7
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So far, I am kind of leaning towards the Nitto Invo Tires. They look awesome, are hella quiet, decently priced, and have good wet/dry grip. They are $500 shipped. I wish stupid Falken made RT615s in 245/40/17 but nope, they had to be GAY! Lol, I also like S Drives too...not sure what to get...any more advice?
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:55 AM   #8
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Dont let the re92's spoil your view on bridgestone they have some awesome tires.

I had the 452's before my new re760's. I liked them but I have a feeling im going to like these more. I dont really know anything about the nitto tires.
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Can you please explain why you might think the RE760's are better then the RE92's? I am interested. They are similarly priced with the other tires, around $500 a set. The thing I like about Invo's is that they are on most exotic and expensive cars. Vipers, Lamborghinis, Ferraris, Corvettes, and much more. They are a very good tire. Not only do they have good grip in the Dry, but also in the Wet. On top of all that, they have decent treadwear at 260 compared to 140 or 200 from other dry summer tires that might hydroplane. They are also probably one of the quietest and best riding tires out of the list, insanely quiet for being low profiles. And lets not forget, the tread design is freakin amazing lol. So that is why I am kind of leaning towards that, any more ideas?
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:22 PM   #10
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Can you please explain why you might think the RE760's are better then the RE92's?

Hmmmm...let's see.

NEW UHP summer vs. OLD A/S...



+1 on the FK452.
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+1234 for the 452's. Loved the set I had.
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Get Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's, by far some of the best street tires.

Very smooth ride, and VERY grippy. I have them for summer tires. (and use them for autocross in the rain too!)

I have them in a 245/40/17 on some 17x8 Rota's. It's an awesome setup. But if your getting 17x9's, why not get 255/40/17 RT-615's?
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Hmmmm...let's see.

NEW UHP summer vs. OLD A/S...



+1 on the FK452.
Hey, I am very sorry. I didn't mean to ask why they are better than the RE92's. RE92's are TRASH! I meant to say why you think they are better than the other tires I posted.

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+1234 for the 452's. Loved the set I had.
Yeh, They are nice. But for the price, I think I am kind of leaning towards the Invo's. Idk, something about them. They are smooth, quiet, good treadwear, and are just awesome.

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Get Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's, by far some of the best street tires.

Very smooth ride, and VERY grippy. I have them for summer tires. (and use them for autocross in the rain too!)

I have them in a 245/40/17 on some 17x8 Rota's. It's an awesome setup. But if your getting 17x9's, why not get 255/40/17 RT-615's?
Hmm...I will give them a look. Also don't forget, the look of the tread/tire is a very important factor for me.

The thing about tire sizes is that 235 on 17x9 give it a stretch. With 235's, it would be fine for me to run. 245/40/17, it would not be stretched as much, or if at all. I am on Tanabe DF210 Springs, and I am lowered almost as much as S-techs. Without coilovers, it will be very hard to run wider tires. 245/40 is kinda pushing it already, 255's would make me have to pull my fenders and I really don't want to do that. Plus RT615's has low treadwear rating and hydroplane when its raining hardcore outside, which is pretty common in the winter months of CA.
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:00 PM   #14
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Hey, I am very sorry. I didn't mean to ask why they are better than the RE92's. RE92's are TRASH! I meant to say why you think they are better than the other tires I posted.



Yeh, They are nice. But for the price, I think I am kind of leaning towards the Invo's. Idk, something about them. They are smooth, quiet, good treadwear, and are just awesome.



Hmm...I will give them a look. Also don't forget, the look of the tread/tire is a very important factor for me.

The thing about tire sizes is that 235 on 17x9 give it a stretch. With 235's, it would be fine for me to run. 245/40/17, it would not be stretched as much, or if at all. I am on Tanabe DF210 Springs, and I am lowered almost as much as S-techs. Without coilovers, it will be very hard to run wider tires. 245/40 is kinda pushing it already, 255's would make me have to pull my fenders and I really don't want to do that. Plus RT615's has low treadwear rating and hydroplane when its raining hardcore outside, which is pretty common in the winter months of CA.
John
Sounds to me like you made your decision on the nittos before you posted the thread because they look the coolest. To each their own, but why are the falkens even on your list of potential choices? You've had no recommendations for the nittos and multiple towards the falkens, yet are leaning towards the nittos.
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Sorry if it sounds like that lol. I tend to do that a lot. I see a lot of people say the Falken's are awesome, but I read a couple of reviews on the Invos saying they previously had the 452's and the Invos were better. Other said the RT615's had more grip in the dry, but then again...duh! Lol. If only STUPID Falken made RT615's in 245/40/17, I'd be all over them. But I've seen pictures of 255/40/17 on 17x9, and they just don't look good. I don't like it when the tire looks like its flat with the wheel. I like a TINY stretch, so 245's FTW. Here are some pictures below of what I mean.

The 255's look kinda flat on 9.5" wheels, so 9" wheels would look even worse.
17x9.5 +30 with RT615's in 255/40/17:


These look good, so I might get these in 245 or 255 if I can make it fit.
17x9 +30 with FK452's in 255/40/17:


These definitely looked too stretched, so the best is 245/40/17 since it's in between.
This is a forester with 235/40/17 Falken RT615's:
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i think i am going with another set of fk452s when my wheels get in. they work great in the cali rain and provide a decent amount of grip. Why are you looking at the rt615s if your not going to track or auto x? jw
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Well, I will be doing a lot of spirited driving and mountain rides. Ever since the first day I got the car and went on a little mountain ride, I never want to ride on ****ty tires again. I felt so insecure about the tires losing grip and cause me to crash or lose control. So I wanted nice grippy tires that would hold traction even while driving a little fast.

But don't worry, they are out of the picture for now. The Yoko's are loud and are out. The RT615's only come in 235/40/17 and 255/40/17, 235's stretch too much and 255's are too wide for me.

There is a new set I am interested in though! They are the older Azeni's, the ST115's. Does anyone have experience with those? They have 360AA Treadwear and are cheapest at $475 a set. Shipped.
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Other than that, FK452's are winning so far.
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So I guess I'm the only one to vote for the Direzza's?
The Direzza Star Spec is top notch IMO.
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^^^ The Direzza Star Spec ARE Amazing, but those weren't the dunlops I posted. Those are $153/tire. I was talking about the Dunlop Direzza DZ101 for a little cheaper. I guess the falkens 452, dunlop dz101, falken st115, yoko s drive, and nitto invo are pretty much all the same. I guess since everyone loves 452's, I'll give them a try. I still don't NEED to buy the tires asap, so I can keep searching.
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Guys! Update.
What about Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R!!?!??!

I know they are AMAZING in Dry Grip, Sidewall, Wet Grip, Noise, and overall kick arse. But I was worried about the low treadwear of 140, which is even worse than RT615's at 200. If I don't auto-x and track, do you think it is fine to get 140 treadwear and expect to see 10-15000 miles from them?
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Get Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R's, by far some of the best street tires.

Very smooth ride, and VERY grippy. I have them for summer tires. (and use them for autocross in the rain too!)

I have them in a 245/40/17 on some 17x8 Rota's. It's an awesome setup. But if your getting 17x9's, why not get 255/40/17 RT-615's?
The RE-01Rs are the best tires I have ever owned period..grip for days. I been running them for about 8K miles (225/45-17s). But they are kind of expensive now at $183 (I paid $159 a few months back) a tire. So I would definelty conisider the Dunolp Direzzi Z1s at $129 a tire is a pretty good deal.
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Guys! Update.
What about Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R!!?!??!

I know they are AMAZING in Dry Grip, Sidewall, Wet Grip, Noise, and overall kick arse. But I was worried about the low treadwear of 140, which is even worse than RT615's at 200. If I don't auto-x and track, do you think it is fine to get 140 treadwear and expect to see 10-15000 miles from them?
I have gone 8k with them not too much wear. I think I should get about another 10-12K.
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The DZ101 sucks in the wet. Big time.

Falken FK452 FTW.
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Sounds like a deal then. I will aim for the RE-01R's in 245/40/17, and if that doesn't work, then I will get the FK452's in 245/40/17. Thanks a lot for the help. If anyone has any more ideas or tips, feel free to post.
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I love my 255/35 18 yoko S-drives. I cant tell you how quite they are as I have all pillow ball joints. But they have good street traction and are good in the rain. Its also a good looking tire at a great price. Thanks Luke!
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