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Old 06-30-2008, 01:15 PM   #1
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Default floor jack and jack stands is 2 ton enough

there's a guy selling 2-ton floor jack and jack stands and I was wondering if it's enough for my 99 RS and for a 95 L wagon. I couldn't find any answer about 2-ton jacks around.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:19 PM   #2
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you could jack up the entire car with a single 2 ton jack...

yes it is enough, but generally the 2 ton rated jacks are cheap POS chinese made jacks.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:25 PM   #3
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i got a 3 ton cheap chinese made POS...
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:25 PM   #4
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Is your car less than 4,000 lbs? Yes, it is. There is your answer.
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:37 PM   #5
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are there good pics around where to front jack it and where to put jack stands? the ones on scoobymods are not that clear.

yeah I think those are chinese crap but it's only $20 for jack stands, a creeper and a floor jack.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:42 PM   #6
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I'm always willing to jump on a bargain, and a cheap jack and creeper is fine with me.

However, when you are under the car, your life will depend on the jack stands. The 2-ton stands I've seen just look plain scary.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:01 PM   #7
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I bought a "nice" $120 aluminum jack. Piece of JUNK! It leaks and bleeds down. My ancient, 20 year old, $40 jack works much better. (I'll even get under the car with just that jack!)

Get somethig that you can trust.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:03 PM   #8
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your car weighs 1.5 tons not to mention 2 ton limit is under-rated for safety, they can probably hold 2.5 tons giving you 2,000lbs of peace of mind
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:31 PM   #9
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(I'll even get under the car with just that jack!)
That is a bad idea.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:34 PM   #10
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I've had a few of the cheap-o Sears jacks, and they vary quite a bit in quality. My dad has one of the low entry 2-ton jacks that was ~$50, and I never had a problem with it. I got one that wasn't low entry, and the handle doesn't work for the first 2 -3 inches of travel. You have to basically lift the part the handle sits in to get the handle high enough to use it for leverage.

Long story short, try it out first. I've never had a problem with the rear of an impreza, but the front can be a pain if the ass if the jack isn't low enough. This is assuming you're using the front crossmember (big metal plate behind the oil pan) and the rear differential to jack from.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:56 PM   #11
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That is a bad idea.
Not saying that it's smart, but when the car is up for a week I feel safe underneeth for a few minutes. The old jack is that good.
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Old 06-30-2008, 03:57 PM   #12
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the brand is Team Mechanix. anybody had any experience?

it's probably this http://automotive.hardwarestore.com/...ck-112195.aspx

Lifting range: 5-5/16" to 13".
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Old 07-01-2008, 03:01 AM   #13
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Its the cheap CSK one that they always have on sale. It works fine but the lifting range is complete crap. It barely gets high enough for the wheels to clear the ground. The stands are fine though. Jack stands are jack stands, they'll be fine regardless of how cheap they are.

BTW you can get that jack and 2 stands for $20 at a Checker's Shucks Kragen Murrays store.

Go spend $40 and buy a Husky 3ton SUV jack:
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...ctId=100349252
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:24 PM   #14
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Not saying that it's smart, but when the car is up for a week I feel safe underneeth for a few minutes. The old jack is that good.
that doesn't mean the jack is to be trusted, just that murphy is very, very patient...

getting under a car supported by just a jack is about the same as (un)plugging an airbag with the battery connected... Very slim odds of anything bad happening, but if it were to, it would REALLY ruin your day. Both are easily preventable, and will keep your obit from getting an 'asinine' tag on fark.com.
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:33 PM   #15
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all your really need to do is even put one jack stand and keep the floor jack up, even that is better than just a jack.
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Old 07-01-2008, 02:13 PM   #16
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I got a 1.5 ton aluminum jack for $70. I've only had it for six months. So far it's been great. I keep my eye on the cylinder for leaks, so far nothing. It's definately in the cheap chinese category. It's great 'cause it's blue and it's easy to manuever. You can easily slide it around with one hand while you're under the car already. Never get under a car with just a jack, you just don't know how fast that seal is going to leak when it gives out. I have a friend who was under a lift with a leak and it dropped six inches. He has three vertabrea that are fused together now.
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Old 07-01-2008, 05:06 PM   #17
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Someone I knew just died a week ago from his car falling on him...he was working under his camaro with no jack stands. Get something you would trust with your life
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:35 AM   #18
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I wouldn't say I recomend it, but I do trust mine. When I have a wheel off I due use 1 of my sets of jack stands. Yes, I have 2 sets.
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:43 AM   #19
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I have a 2 ton jack and 3 ton jack stands. As stated before, I wouldn't trust my life with the flimsy 2 ton jack stands most places sell.
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Old 07-02-2008, 05:23 PM   #20
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Unless you have the car up in the air supported by only one jack, you will not have the full 3k lbs on the jack stand. With the car supported with 2 jack stands (front or side) only about 1/2 the weight of the car rests on the stands, the other half will rest on the wheels touching the ground. That being said, err on the side of caution. Getting squished by your car would put a big damper on the day.
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