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Old 02-28-2010, 10:16 AM   #276
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Looks good bruce. For the finished i/c piping, are you going to do smooth bends or those kinky ones? I kinda like it the way you have it now...

What did you end up putting under the pmu cap for the clutch resovior to keep it tight?
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:33 AM   #277
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Looks good bruce. For the finished i/c piping, are you going to do smooth bends or those kinky ones? I kinda like it the way you have it now...

What did you end up putting under the pmu cap for the clutch resovior to keep it tight?
I'm not sure if they will be smooth or kinky.. I kinda like the kinky bends too. I'll have to get the pieces glued together with PVC cement and then take it to a couple of exhaust shops to see what they can do. Clearances are fairly tight so they will have to follow the bends pretty exact.

The pmu cap for the clutch reservoir is just sitting on there now.. not tight yet. I haven't figured out a way yet to get it on tight... I was thinking about grafting a Brake reservoir cap onto the clutch one and then putting the pmu cap over that.. not sure yet though.

What trick did you use
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Old 02-28-2010, 10:35 AM   #278
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After a little bit of re-cutting and wiggling I think I like the setup in the pics below much better. There is a lot more symmetry to the pipes and it gives more clearance for the coolant hoses and wiring under the piping.

Next step is to glue it up and take it to a few shops to see what they can do







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Old 02-28-2010, 11:06 AM   #279
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haha right now I have like cardboard or something around the factory cap. LOL

After looking at the piping again, you may want to re-think the cold side piping. It's routed directly over the top of the turbo, which is going to get hot. Also, flip your coolant tank facing the back. Remember those lines need to go to the block and turbo and the way you have it routed you will see all those lines.
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:16 AM   #280
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Yeah.. my existing intercooler piping goes right over top of it as well... I do have some laced wrap that I use where it goes over the turbo.

I'll likely have the coolant tank turn the other way like you suggested as well.. More brackets to make
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Old 02-28-2010, 11:50 AM   #281
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I hear you. There is this kid on iwsti that used the 05 coolant res tank and made a bracket off the power steering or alt bracket, I can't remember but it looked really clean and easy to make. I will find it when I get home from work.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:02 PM   #282
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I like your build maybe I can help you too. I have plenty of pics in my database...

What about this 72mm throttle body? Used by RCM gobstopper subaru impreza...
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Old 02-28-2010, 07:03 PM   #283
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Yeah, I was thinking about mocking up something that looks like the one you posted as well.. That way the hot side is going over the turbo instead of the cold side. It should be pretty much the same, just turn the direction of the 90 degree turns.

I think I'll keep the piping so that it runs down the sides of the engine because I just think it looks cool

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Old 02-28-2010, 07:22 PM   #284
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Tim how come your making new IC pipes? If your going through all this trouble why not flip the mani and run shorter piping, i think it looks way better reversed!
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:22 PM   #285
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Tim how come your making new IC pipes? If your going through all this trouble why not flip the mani and run shorter piping, i think it looks way better reversed!
I want to make the engine bay look symmetrical... If I had a big old rotated turbo, I would likely go reversed because symmetry can't really be accomplished.

I really want to see the piping running down the sides of the engine It's what floats my boat!!

Oh and I think I'll likely swap where I have the power steering reservoir and the coolant reservoir. I have an idea on how I can incorporate a nice little shroud for around the power steering reservoir that would be integrated with the pulley cover all in Carbon Fiber
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Old 02-28-2010, 08:33 PM   #286
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gotta love all the detail that's going into this... amazing work bruce.

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i like the reverse flow idea, nice short pipes and smooth bends. to really be symmetrical you'd need a twin turbo setup.
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Old 03-02-2010, 07:33 PM   #287
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Yes... new parts

So some new parts arrived today. The Forge coolant tank and the Agency Power turbo inlet pipe. Which first created a sense of panic because I was like WTF!! this intake pipe doesn't fit. Then I took a look at the APS turbo inlet pipe installation instructions and popped on the old intake manifold to see that it actually attaches to the OEM intake manifold. I was trying to figure out how to make it fit between the TGVs and the power steering pump.

Turns out it isn't supposed to fit in there, instead rest on top of the power steering pump and hang from the intake manifold. So I put it in place and put the Magnus intake manifold back on there and it actually pins it in place so that it sits nice and solid in there. So I was feeling much better

I also reversed the flow of the intercooler piping. You can now see that the cold side comes in from the drivers side and the hot side goes over the turbo. I still have a bit more to do on the passenger side piping but it looks like it will work.

I also am now going to put the power steering reservoir where the AC compressor used to be, and the coolant reservoir over where the BOV is.

When you look at the pictures below just picture a nice polished alternator, turbo heat shield, BOV and intercooler piping.









One of the added benefits of the way that the hard turbo inlet pipe installs is that it leaves a nice gap under it and where the radiator hose attaches to the engine. This will give me a great little tunnel to tuck my wiring. I was worried about having to run the wiring over top of the intake.

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Old 03-02-2010, 07:51 PM   #288
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nice looking setup

looking forward to checking it out in the summer again
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More shiny parts

I made a quick trip down to JRP to pick up some various braided and silicone hoses along with some AN fittings that came in.



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Old 03-04-2010, 01:43 PM   #290
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Fuel parts have now been ordered as well..

Aeromotive 13159 Fuel Pressure Regulator


Earls Y-block


It turns out that I already have most of the AN ORB fittings that I need. I already have 4 -6AN to -6AN ORB fittings that are on my Agency Power distribution block. So I will only need one more of them. I also have a -6AN to 3/8 npt for my existing distribution block. So I picked up some new -6AN o-rings for a fresh seal.

They should be here within the next week
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nice bruce. What's the vibrant stuff?
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I dont know how well your ps is going to work with the res higher than the pump.
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Sick Tim! I can't believe you got the same ones I want, man we have the same tastes! I might have a hook up for chrome guy if you want to get your rails done? Also I found a great place to do welding for your IC pipes, you can buy everything from Vibrant and get it welded, they said $40-60 for everything!
D I think those are black vacum lines from Vibrant another thing I want!
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I dont know how well your ps is going to work with the res higher than the pump.
Does the ps tank have to be lower? Also, shouldn't it be baffled?

Does the same rule apply to the coolant overflow tank? Doesn't that need to be higher then the turbo?
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Yup, the vibrant stuff is all silicone vacuum/coolant hoses. I wanted many of those hoses to stay black instead of braided lines to be a bit more subtle.

The coolant reservoir does sit higher than the turbo and the Power Steering reservoir pickups do sit lower than the inlet for the power steering by about 3-4". The inlet of the Power Steering pump at the top, and the hose connects are on the bottom of the power steering reservoir. According to my local trusted speed shop it should all be fine.

It's hard to see from the pictures how high the different items are sitting and I just have them mocked up for now sitting on rolls of tape

For the pipes, I'm going to take them to a local bending shop near my work. They have an automated scanning and bending system where they can replicate everything in mandrel bends instead of welding.. so I'm going to check them out first before I go with vibrant pipes and welding.
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Does the ps tank have to be lower? Also, shouldn't it be baffled?

Does the same rule apply to the coolant overflow tank? Doesn't that need to be higher then the turbo?
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by baffled.. please do tell, I'm a newb there

I know that it has two lines.. one running to the pump and one running to the steering rack
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by baffled.. please do tell, I'm a newb there

I know that it has two lines.. one running to the pump and one running to the steering rack
The yellow cap sits loosely on the resivior and is baffled so that when the fluid gets hot it dosent spill out of the tank...
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So then baffled just means that air in the tank can escape when going through the hot/cold cycles so that there isn't pressure built up in the tank?
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so Tino should the cap be baffled or the tank? Show us pics of yours!!!

And bruce, is that any specific size vacuum line? I'd like to grab that asap!
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