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Old 07-03-2008, 01:32 PM   #1
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Default Chrysler Signs MoU with China’s Great Wall (Clone) Motors




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Chrysler LLC said that it has signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with China's Great Wall Motor to explore the viability of a long-term strategic relationship in various areas including distribution networks, components and technology. Neither company provided details about the agreement. Notably, Chrysler has already formed a relationship with another Chinese manufacturer, Chery Automobile for the development, production and distribution of small and sub-compact vehicles.



Now, for those of you wondering why we hailed the Chinese automaker as Great Wall “Clone” Motors in the title, we remind you that Great Wall produces a great number of vehicles that literally copy Japanese and European car designs, including the “GWPERI” Fiat Panda (pictured above) and the Scion-esque Cool Bear and Florid prototypes (pictured right). Hopefully the Chinese copy-maker won’t get any crazy ideas about creating the Challenger “California Dreaming”…





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Old 07-03-2008, 02:44 PM   #2
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I heard Walmart was going to start selling these cars.













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Old 07-03-2008, 06:45 PM   #3
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One looks like a Scion xB
One looks like a Toyota Yaris

Bunch of Chinese clones...
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:59 PM   #4
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One looks like a Scion xB
One looks like a Scion xD

Bunch of Chinese clones...
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Old 07-03-2008, 09:44 PM   #5
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It's quite sad when a company that has been building cars for nearly 100 years has to get companies in communist countries to build cars for them. Sad. Very, very sad.
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Old 07-06-2008, 06:20 AM   #6
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^^never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right. They are just going to steal designs and technology, and in 20 years they are going to buy out american car companies outright.

remember that US spy plane that had to land in china after crashing into a chinese jet years ago? they stripped it down and are probably hopefully still trying to reverse engineer it....like the russians did with all the engines/tech that they "borrowed"
after WW2.

the chinese are so hungry that they are willing to do/try anything to gain an edge and make a buck. And that is why the US companies are screwed. Not enough hunger and no foresight...oh yah and we also have laws and safety regs to deal with.
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Old 07-07-2008, 04:17 PM   #7
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:11 PM   #8
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Well it's not like they could not buy one and strip it down.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:52 AM   #9
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^^never thought about it that way but you are absolutely right. They are just going to steal designs and technology, and in 20 years they are going to buy out american car companies outright.

remember that US spy plane that had to land in china after crashing into a chinese jet years ago? they stripped it down and are probably hopefully still trying to reverse engineer it....like the russians did with all the engines/tech that they "borrowed"
after WW2.

the chinese are so hungry that they are willing to do/try anything to gain an edge and make a buck. And that is why the US companies are screwed. Not enough hunger and no foresight...oh yah and we also have laws and safety regs to deal with.
you make it sound "great wall" was the one who found Chrysler and forced them into this position
It's Chrysler thats taking the easy road
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:55 AM   #10
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brilliant move chrysler
just another move to ensure that your cars become even crappier.
Hopefully Chinesse will fall in love with NITRO
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:58 AM   #12
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and I thought that the Korean's were bad at taking design que's from other car companies...

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Old 07-08-2008, 11:16 AM   #13
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China doesn't recoginise international patent laws. Therefore, anything that's patented they have direct access (since one of the stipulents of getting a patent is 'full discloseure such that a person of resonable compentents could replicate the design') to and can copy. And do copy. Quite poorly too, generally speaking. There's no explicit need for them to make agreements with anyone.

That having been said, when they actually put their minds to something, and don't try to make a cheap knockoff, they actually make pretty good stuff. Fromt what auto reviews I've read of chinese cars, they tend to be pretty favorable.

So yes, this is Crysler that wants this, not GWM. They need a cheap source of labor and technology. And they need good sub-compacts for the current global economy. Chinese motor companies do both of those things very well, and are a lot easier (and cheaper) to get into bed with than Japanese marques. The big three are all trying different things to keep themselves afloat. This is what Crysler is doing.
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China doesn't recoginise international patent laws. Therefore, anything that's patented they have direct access (since one of the stipulents of getting a patent is 'full discloseure such that a person of resonable compentents could replicate the design') to and can copy. And do copy. Quite poorly too, generally speaking. There's no explicit need for them to make agreements with anyone.

That having been said, when they actually put their minds to something, and don't try to make a cheap knockoff, they actually make pretty good stuff. Fromt what auto reviews I've read of chinese cars, they tend to be pretty favorable.
If this was true you'd think they'd be able to at least marginally pass a crash/safety test.
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Well, the tests were driving test, not crash tests They're still cheap ass cars.
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Death trap... on bicycle tires. On a positive note, I saw a guy on a motorcycle get ran complete over by a chery, and he lived to stand up and cuss out the other driver.
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I wonder if they come wrapped in a plastic bag and are coated with cosmoline?
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