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Old 03-04-2002, 11:12 PM   #1
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i have a new 2002 black wrx. well i made the mistake first of washign it with an old sponge, that gave me swirls. then i recently waxed my car when it was about 4 months old and it was nice and pretty. but now i see more swirls that are deeper. i mean swirls that are so close together that its unbearable when the sunlight shines directly on it. like the car looks diry when i just wash the car because of the swirl marks. is it because of the old wax/polish i used or is it my damage clearcoat? my swirls before were pretty spreaded apart. is there a permanent fix for this? should i get my car detailed professionally? i did a search but none really matched my specific case. my car is about 5 months old and i hear waxing too much isn't good also.

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Old 03-04-2002, 11:32 PM   #2
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subarus dont really have a great paint job, swirl marks and paint chips are typical.
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Old 03-04-2002, 11:46 PM   #3
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Try 3M swirl remover for black/red cars. Then top with a glaze or wax of your choice. Make sure you use a real applicator and microfiber towel to remove.

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Old 03-05-2002, 01:52 AM   #4
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I have the same damn prob. on my black wrx. I think it came form the factory like that. I have never used anything but shammys and hand wash every time. I had swirls all over the car since I bought it, Subaru just has bad factory paint or the make ready dept. screwed up my paint.
Sorry I haven't found a way to get rid of the swirls either.
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Old 03-05-2002, 03:35 AM   #5
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Dark colored cars are just more prone to swirls than any other color. Well it's more visible not more prone. There is really nothing you can do to prevent it, only lessen it.

A good buffing with an orbital buffer by an experienced person perhaps every 6months or once a year will remove them. It's not at all expensive, some 50-150 dollars for just an exterior detail. For a little more, you could have them treat your carpet, clean your engine, etc.

When washing, use two buckets. One bucket holds your soapy water and the other holds just regular water. Wash your car starting from the top and rinse the mitt in the plain bucket. This way the bulk of the dirt goes into the plain water bucket and not back into your soapy water bucket and scratch up your paint some more.

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Old 03-05-2002, 06:48 AM   #6
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Old 03-05-2002, 10:34 AM   #7
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I have swirls from waxing. And the saddest thing is, 21000 miles and about 21000 stone chips on the front end.
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Old 03-05-2002, 11:45 AM   #8
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Old 03-08-2002, 02:54 PM   #9
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Smear wax on your car...?? Really this is 2002.

LIQUID GLASS no swirls stays on for years even
in high acid rain from Pa.

my WRx has two coats on and everyone loves it.
$17 can PEP BOYS
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Old 03-08-2002, 04:24 PM   #10
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Hey Dennis, a bit pricey but accept no substitute

http://www.griotsgarage.com/


I'm not kidding, this blows that Zaino's or what stuff out of the water. Any serious car show buff in the northwest would use this stuff. I'm sure they have something for you to cure your problems.
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Old 03-08-2002, 09:02 PM   #11
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I'm a Zaino Bros believer, I would use this on my car if I had your problem
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:20 AM   #12
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i'm a bit of a Zymol fan myself
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:55 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by mitch808
Hey Dennis, a bit pricey but accept no substitute

http://www.griotsgarage.com/


I'm not kidding, this blows that Zaino's or what stuff out of the water. Any serious car show buff in the northwest would use this stuff. I'm sure they have something for you to cure your problems.
Uh huh, whatever. I just love (uninformed) generalizations like yours.

Griots Garage does have some great products. That doesn't mean it "blows that Zaino's or what stuff out of the water." If you actually followed the detailing community, you'd know Zaino Brothers is one of the top car polishes. It's a favorite here at the I-Club as well.

Besides which, I've been using it on my car and it's great! Bird crap comes off the car with a simple spray of water or car wash solution. No effort required. And it provides that deep wet look to your paint.

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Old 03-09-2002, 01:19 AM   #14
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my front and rear bumpers have already been repainted under warrenty.. they have to paint my hoodscoop now.
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Old 03-09-2002, 07:57 AM   #15
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can you explain how and why they were repainted under warrenty?
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:22 PM   #16
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this is one of the reasons why i got a silver wrx. i have another car that's a midnight blue, and it too suffers swirl marks when hit with light. i tried some meguires swirl remover and it worked pretty well (needs A LOT of elbow grease) a good coat of cleaner wax improved overall appearance and provided a harder to remove wax shell. i go really easy on the chamos and other towels for dark colors, almost no pressure on the towel, just glide it across in uniform STRAIGHT direction. no circles.
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Old 03-09-2002, 12:34 PM   #17
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When I was at the dealer they had a black wrx in the showroom and it had massive swirlmarks all over it already. It must be some kind of dealer installed option.
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Old 03-09-2002, 03:51 PM   #18
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There are several good brands (like the 3M mentioned above), but you need a good paint cleaner followed by a glaze or wax. Go to the autopia site above. I went there, read lots of posts, and decided for me Klasse was best. They sell a product called "All-in-One" that is a paint cleaner/swirl remover, and what they call "High Gloss Sealant", which tops off your clean paint. I used this the first part of November and my swirls are still gone.

I'm convinced these cars come loaded with swirls and it's up to us to get rid of them. However, you don't need to take it to a professional with a buffer until you try a good product yourself, and you don't need a buffer, either.

When you wash or anything--use only long straight motions, NO circles!!!
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