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Old 07-11-2008, 07:37 PM   #1
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Default 6 year old tires being sold as BRAND NEW!!

I did a search so bite me. And even if it was posted before this needs to be brought up again...

Wow i cant believe this isnt a law against this!!!!

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Old 07-11-2008, 07:48 PM   #2
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:49 PM   #3
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Interesting, I've never thought about a tire's age since I figured the supply/demand was enough to keep them from getting too old...
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:50 PM   #4
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What's a six-year-old doing with tires?
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #5
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I did a search so bite me. And even if it was posted before this needs to be brought up again...

Wow i cant believe this isnt a law against this!!!!

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Old 07-11-2008, 07:52 PM   #6
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Old 07-11-2008, 07:53 PM   #7
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I'm here for the tired six year olds.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:09 PM   #8
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I don't understand why tire manufacturers would be against an expiration date...they'd sell more tires.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:12 PM   #9
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:15 PM   #10
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I don't understand why tire manufacturers would be against an expiration date...they'd sell more tires.
Not necessarily, most companies that have expiration dates on products buy those products back after they expire.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:22 PM   #11
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I don't understand why tire manufacturers would be against an expiration date...they'd sell more tires.
yeah, how would an expiration date sell more tires? You think the public would be like, "OMGWTFBBQ, that tire's about to expire, gimmie gimmie gimmie!!?"

I'd be more like, umm, no thanks, I'll wait a week and get a new tire.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:42 PM   #12
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Why are almost all the vehicles in that "graveyard" Ford Explorers?
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:45 PM   #13
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:46 PM   #14
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Why are almost all the vehicles in that "graveyard" Ford Explorers?
Do you not remember the whole Firestone incident?
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:48 PM   #15
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Ohhhhhh yes.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:48 PM   #16
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:50 PM   #17
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Do you not remember the whole Firestone incident?
Ya but that wasnt from old rubber...
That was a manufacturing defect.
The cars being shown in the video are supposed to be from accidents caused by old tires.

I'm sure not all of those are from old rubber, and some were roll over cases. I only made the comment because it would be funny if the producers were trying to pass them off as such
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:54 PM   #18
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Do you not remember the whole Firestone incident?
i find it funny

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On August 9, 2000, the Bridgestone Firestone tire company announced one of the largest product recalls in American history. Because of mounting concerns about safety, the company said, it was replacing some fourteen million tires that had been used primarily on the Ford Explorer S.U.V. The cost of the recall—and of a follow-up replacement program initiated by Ford a year later—ran into billions of dollars. Millions more were spent by both companies on fighting and settling lawsuits from Explorer owners, who alleged that their tires had come apart and caused their S.U.V.s to roll over. In the fall of that year, senior executives from both companies were called to Capitol Hill, where they were publicly berated. It was the biggest scandal to hit the automobile industry in years. It was also one of the strangest. According to federal records, the number of fatalities resulting from the failure of a Firestone tire on a Ford Explorer S.U.V., as of September, 2001, was two hundred and seventy-one. That sounds like a lot, until you remember that the total number of tires supplied by Firestone to the Explorer from the moment the S.U.V. was introduced by Ford, in 1990, was fourteen million, and that the average life span of a tire is forty-five thousand miles. The allegation against Firestone amounts to the claim that its tires failed, with fatal results, two hundred and seventy-one times in the course of six hundred and thirty billion vehicle miles. Manufacturers usually win prizes for failure rates that low. It's also worth remembering that during that same ten-year span almost half a million Americans died in traffic accidents. In other words, during the nineteen-nineties hundreds of thousands of people were killed on the roads because they drove too fast or ran red lights or drank too much. And, of those, a fair proportion involved people in S.U.V.s who were lulled by their four-wheel drive into driving recklessly on slick roads, who drove aggressively because they felt invulnerable, who disproportionately killed those they hit because they chose to drive trucks with inflexible steel-frame architecture, and who crashed because they couldn't bring their five-thousand-pound vehicles to a halt in time. Yet, out of all those fatalities, regulators, the legal profession, Congress, and the media chose to highlight the .0005 per cent that could be linked to an alleged defect in the vehicle.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:06 PM   #19
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:09 PM   #20
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Ya but that wasnt from old rubber...
That was a manufacturing defect.
The cars being shown in the video are supposed to be from accidents caused by old tires.

I'm sure not all of those are from old rubber, and some were roll over cases. I only made the comment because it would be funny if the producers were trying to pass them off as such
the media using sensationalism to sell their story? NO WAI!!
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:22 PM   #21
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Do you not remember the whole Firestone incident?
Also note that both of their videoclips showing loss of control following delaminations (including the "expert") were of . . . Ford Explorers.

Do ya think the problem might be with Explorers . . . or, to be charitable, vehicles with lots of mass and a high center of gravity?
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:35 PM   #22
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Also note that both of their videoclips showing loss of control following delaminations (including the "expert") were of . . . Ford Explorers.

Do ya think the problem might be with Explorers . . . or, to be charitable, vehicles with lots of mass and a high center of gravity?
They said that was footage from the testing done as part of the Firestone fiasco.

I think a bigger contributor to tire delamination is not keeping consistent tire pressures. My wife had a tire with a puncture, when I took it to get repaired the tire shop wouldn't do it because the heat buildup had cracked the rubber on the inside of the tire. I suspect that if I'd gone to a different shop, they would have patched the tire and never mentioned that it was probably dangerous.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:38 PM   #23
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I don't understand why tire manufacturers would be against an expiration date...they'd sell more tires.

I see what you're getting at. Like, if someone ALREADY owned a tire, but it was only good for 4 years or something... even if they only drove 10000 miles, they would have to get a new set.


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Old 07-11-2008, 10:07 PM   #24
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I see what you're getting at. Like, if someone ALREADY owned a tire, but it was only good for 4 years or something... even if they only drove 10000 miles, they would have to get a new set.


That tire was put on my RS weeks before I bought it by the previous owner, and this is what it was like after putting less than 500 miles on the car. It was fine when I drove it out of his driveway. You really cant keep tires forever, they dry-rot, even if they're sitting stagnant in a warehouse somewhere.
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Old 07-11-2008, 10:08 PM   #25
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When you buy tires from the online places you can call and ask what the date code is. I got some snow tires once that were over a year old, but they were cheap enough to make it worth it.
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